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AuthorTopic: can't get a bassline!
beanyles
Posted: 6th May 2004 06:28
hey guys, i'm new at producing and i cant seem to get a good bassline for progressive house music. If anyone can throw me a bone as to what vst to use or any other tips i would really apreciate it
snooky
Posted: 6th May 2004 06:54
Well, as I had the same problem a while ago, I found out that a good proghouse bassline is one that is syncopated and a bit loose but thunderous...
Take a saw wave and welly up the rez, cut the filter out and play one or two notes in the same key as the tune (obviously)


ES1 is exellent for this stuff
no_signal
Posted: 6th May 2004 06:55
beanyles wrote:
hey guys, i'm new at producing and i cant seem to get a good bassline for progressive house music. If anyone can throw me a bone as to what vst to use or any other tips i would really apreciate it


Use Synth1, Triangle2, Superwave ...
They are all free and you can download banks from KVR.
snooky
Posted: 6th May 2004 06:58
tranceinstitute wrote:
beanyles wrote:
hey guys, i'm new at producing and i cant seem to get a good bassline for progressive house music. If anyone can throw me a bone as to what vst to use or any other tips i would really apreciate it


Use Synth1, Triangle2, Superwave ...
They are all free and you can download banks from KVR.


Superwave is worthless for progbass stuff imo
deep
Posted: 6th May 2004 07:06
Choosing the right sound for a progressive type bassline is paramount - but to get it to sound just right you are really going to have to spend a lot of time carefully applying EQ and compression.

A good starting point I find is to start rolling off frequencies below 49Hz on the bass so it does not intefere with the kickdrum. Send the output of both the kickdrum and the bass to an auxillary channel on the mixer and feed into a compressor. Start with a ratio of about 6:1 with a fast attack (about 10ms) and medium release (about 140ms). Obviously there is no set rules when it comes to parameter settings as every song is different but I find this is a good place to start.

hope this helps.

[Edit]: There was a good article posted on this a while back but I forget the URL. Perhaps someone can post it?
wrench45us
Posted: 6th May 2004 07:15
triangleII (free), albino and tera (even microTera (free with some effort to order back issue of coverdisc magazine) can make some nice thumping basses

some folks swear by Hydra for basses.

with the proper addition of compression
i'd suggest Blockfish or Endorphin, H2O or the Classic Compressor (in that order of preference)

does progressive house work with a nice sync'd slapback delay?
djliquidsteele
Posted: 6th May 2004 19:22
I think he's talking bassline, like programming the notes, not how to get a sound.
beanyles
Posted: 6th May 2004 19:58
djliquidsteele wrote:
I think he's talking bassline, like programming the notes, not how to get a sound.


well actually its a little of both jeje Wink
wrench45us
Posted: 7th May 2004 10:35
well, then it's an even better question.

figure out the key center of any given measure of phrase
hit the downbeat hard
apply any walking anticipating any change on the next bar OR rhytmic variation toward the end of the measure or half measure or phrase change

but keep it relatively simple ryhtmically

the best way I suppose is to learn to think like a bass player -- listen to music you like and isolate the bass pattern.
shouldn't this be fairly straightforward with dance music?
TML
Posted: 8th May 2004 11:58
I tried lots of basline synth? they all are not fat enought. Now I`m using moog modular V , is so fat and warm.
jens
Posted: 8th May 2004 12:05
the best vsti for ANY type of synthbass is imo Bazzoid
- it's indeed an incredible little plugin Very Happy
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