Hi there, first post.

Just looking for a bit of help really, I'm after the dance piano that was used to death on happy hardcore and other dance genres during the 90's. I heard this was the Korg M1 piano but I can't find a soundfont or samples for this anywhere.

Does anyone know of an alternative that can be used that is equal to this sound?

If anyone can help I would be most grateful

You probably won't find the M1 set - copyright and all that.

But there is a very good soundfont set or two at
www.sf2midi.com
The XP50 set is very similar in that it has a very bright attack and that plinky-plonky general style of the old Korg sound. And it's very well recorded too - it cuts right through almost any mix. There's a U20 piano set there which I've d'l'ed but not tried yet also - might be worth a look. The XP50 piano is probably the closest yet I've come across for that type of piano for free.

RGC's sfz is a good freebie SF player (with the option of the commercial version which has FX and filters etc). And Crystal is also a very good way of playing SFs - for free you get all manner of filters, envelopes, FX etc.

Happy plinky-plonking

Cool, cheers kritikon..

I'll give that a bash when I've finished work, but the XP50 sounds exactly like what I'm after. Plinky Plonky ahoy!

Cheers again, I owe you one

I'll report back later after I've taken a look to thank you once more...

rhetoriq wrote:

I'm after the dance piano that was used to death on happy hardcore and other dance genres during the 90's. I heard this was the Korg M1 piano but I can't find a soundfont or samples for this anywhere.

Actually the "cult" piano sound for those 90's genres was the Roland D-70 piano - and still is, because none of it successors had that piano sound.

Since we are on a subject of dance pianos, which piano was used in all of those dream dance songs? (Robert Miles "Children", "Fable") And, is there SF2 I can download anywhere?

dr.wackler wrote:

rhetoriq wrote: I'm after the dance piano that was used to death on happy hardcore and other dance genres during the 90's. I heard this was the Korg M1 piano but I can't find a soundfont or samples for this anywhere. Actually the "cult" piano sound for those 90's genres was the Roland D-70 piano - and still is, because none of it successors had that piano sound.

The one used for 'Italin House' riffs was the M1

twister wrote:

Since we are on a subject of dance pianos, which piano was used in all of those dream dance songs? (Robert Miles "Children", "Fable") And, is there SF2 I can download anywhere?

I started doing my own version of Children back around 1995-7 (Can't remember which year now) on my Yamaha W5 with piano expansion board. It was pretty darn close...

Devon

The M1 piano was the 909 of pianos!

MDA's piano has a fine dance preset that should do the job...

the Robert Miles dreamhouse piano was Alesis 8 mb piano expansion board (for Alesis quadrasynth, qs6 etc.) It was considered to be the best piano sample at the time.

Well, mostly for Twisters amusement, here's Children done off my old Yamaha W5 expansion piano rom.

I had more to the track, but it was all on my EMu E64 which is now long gone.

Devon

From what I can remember, Robert Miles went and loaned money to purchase a Kurweil K2000 and a Korg 01/W to produce Children... This was mentioned in an interview several years ago, Future Music if my memory serves me right. (Might be that there was an Akai S1000 or something involved in it as well)

The definite house piano is indeed Korg M1. I suggest googling around, there used to be a M1 piano soundfont floating around - I should also have it stashed somewhere on my 'stuff I never seem to use' soundfont cds...

jmh

Hammersound has this soundfont:

"classical Piano SoundFont. Sampled from Korg 01/Wfd with an external Piano sample card. The SoundFont includes a Piano soundfont with two preset sounds mapped to GM/GS bank 0 as instruments 0 and 1 (Classic Piano and Bright Piano). Currently the two instruments don't differ very much, classic piano uses more filters to smooth the sound on lower volumes. The SoundFont is best suited for classical and jazz"

http://www.hammersound.net/

The Korg M1 Piano was probably the most used but i definitely know it's not the Korg M1 on Children (probably the definitive of that dance era). The sample used by Robert seems too rich for the M1. I had an M1 at the time and i tried to reproduce the dump...dump record. I think the M1 sounded more duller than one on Children. Milesy had a lot of use of the D50 or D70 on the album, if i recall. But it is definitely not the D50 either. It could be the D70 or Alesis. He had to get a loan for his kit to make the record. He was little known at the time and made a serious world wide hit.

bad song tho

Cheers for all the info guys, it's really helped. Tried a couple of sf2's last night and they sound pretty close, but theres always that 5% difference that doesn't sound the real thing. I'll be mucking about with the EQ etc tonight though, which should hopefully narrow the margin.

Also need to take a look at the hammersound one too.

jmh wrote:

From what I can remember, Robert Miles went and loaned money to purchase a Kurweil K2000 and a Korg 01/W to produce Children... This was mentioned in an interview several years ago, Future Music if my memory serves me right. (Might be that there was an Akai S1000 or something involved in it as well)

i remember something similar. i'm pretty sure the guitar and deep organ were k2000 (presets, even?) - but i can't remember how the piano sounds like.

/me votes vor a k2000 vsti again...

As the writer of the classic piano track 'Passion' I used the Roland D110 piano and detuned it by 24 semi tones + added delays hope this helps.
As on the subject of piano tunes i will be re releasing new mixes for this summer and if any of you guys out there want to have a chance of doing a mix to be included let me know at www.gatdecor.com

gatd wrote:

As the writer of the classic piano track 'Passion' I used the Roland D110 piano and detuned it by 24 semi tones + added delays hope this helps. As on the subject of piano tunes i will be re releasing new mixes for this summer and if any of you guys out there want to have a chance of doing a mix to be included let me know at www.gatdecor.com

nice studio btw. i'll buy the sh101

gatd wrote:

As the writer of the classic piano track 'Passion' ...