does anyone here know any softsynths that compare to the virus in terms of industrial music?

Uh-oh...

Welcome to KvR, deathblow.

As a newcomer you’re forgiven but we tend to stay away from the ”V” word nowadays. If you do a forum search for, e.g., ”Virus” and ”Vanguard” you’ll understand why. Threads about the Virus tend to get a bit...er...infected.

Anyhoo, the topic is up there so put your best asbestos suit on and enjoy the flaming.

/Yoss

/me ducks for cover

while it's still civil in here, I'll add my
welcome to kvr, deathblow.
great first post!

Yossarian wrote:

Anyhoo, the topic is up there so put your best asbestos suit on and enjoy the flaming. /Yoss

welcome to kvr Deathblow

bluedad wrote:

great first post!

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does anyone here know any softsynths that compare to the virus in terms of industrial music?

Sure, Jeep Cherokee is what you need.

ok. my bad

bad choice of words. what i meant was more like; is there any kind of softsynts that can produce "virus-like" sounds... (like the the pro-53 or minimoog v do to their originals)

but i guess im walking into a minefield here so...

theres no native vsti that sounds like a virus. But if you want a virus vsti, you can get yourself a tc powercore dsp card, and buy the indigo powercore, which is basically the virus B, as vsti, which requires the powecore dsp card to work, other than that its a vsti it sounds the same as it's outboard pendant does.

I'm in the process of selling all my hardware (amongst them was the Virus B).

I still feel uncomfortable with the idea that it's gone (I might get the Powercore Virus, because I still have lots of sounds for it), but I made 2 remixes now, one with some Z3ta+ sounds, the other with some Albino2 sounds, and I must honestly say that I didn't miss my Virus B (yet )!

Peter.

Zeta

No, it's just a matter that too many people get their panties in a bunch if you 'claim' that some piece of software sounds ANYWHERE close to their precious Virus.

Devon

Fifteen - Love.

probably best posting this question on another board tbh. the words "virus" and "303" will just bring a smile to any kvr members faces.

welcome to kvr

i dont even know what an original virus sounded like only virus ive ever had was the flu!
but i like to pop in to virus related threads normally just to read the silly arguments that ensue

but here i see people have been fair to notice your a new comer and maybe do not know the unwritten rules(well theyre unwritten so why would you?)so as seems appropriate most have welcomed you in the trues spirit of kvr,which i must commend you fellows on,as i know the word virus normally fills you all with fire and brimstone


so anyway welcome aboard and dont do it again

I think z3ta+ and Vanguard can produce similar sounds to a Virus. I have them all and they do compare on some presets. The Virus sounds great and has some wicked presets but then so do a lot of synths. If you want a Virus then buy a Virus - if you want some great sounds for dance or electronic music then there are loads of synths that cover this area.

I imagine that if you asked for a synth that sounded like z3ta+ then people would tell you to buy z3ta+ as it's unique in it's own way. The same goes for the Virus, SuperNova, G2 etc. etc.

/goes on for another ten paragraphs/

So there you have...

deathblow wrote:

does anyone here know any softsynths that compare to the virus in terms of industrial music?

Hello deathblow,

welcome to KVR.

Access themselves have made a VSTi version of their hardware virus for the TC PowerCore board.

I didn't check it myself (not knowing the hardware synth anyway), however, people said the emulation of the hardware synth is 100% accurate.

If anyone should know better, please correct me.

Best,
Stefan

stefankuhn wrote:

deathblow wrote: does anyone here know any softsynths that compare to the virus in terms of industrial music? Hello deathblow, welcome to KVR. Access themselves have made a VSTi version of their hardware virus for the TC PowerCore board. I didn't check it myself (not knowing the hardware synth anyway), however, people said the emulation of the hardware synth is 100% accurate. If anyone should know better, please correct me. Best, Stefan

I've tried the demo and compared it to my Virus Rack XL and it sounds as good. But it's a Virus B rather than C so it doesn't have all the functionality. It sounds excellent IMO. You also get all the Poco effects which are very good, especially the reverbs. I think there's an offer still available at the moment - if you buy a Poco you get the Virus included. Although I doubt you'd be asking this question if you could afford to buy the Poco so this may not help and a Virus Rack XL costs about the same anyway. Usually people ask about substitutes to avoid the expense of the Virus.

stefankuhn wrote:

If anyone should know better, please correct me. Best, Stefan

Pfft, Eric just showed us a thread on another board 'claiming' the powercore version doesn't sound EXACTLY like a Virus. Just more people trying to 'justify' their expensive purchases.

(not directed at you Stefan ) I guess it really matters where your 'who cares' threshold lies. Last time I checked, I could still write a tune that sounds great with z3ta+ or Vanguard, and they all can make sounds that are very very similar to each other. Maybe something to do that they're all substractive synthesis? Naw, couldn't be that...

Devon

munchkin wrote:

I think there's an offer still available at the moment - if you buy a Poco you get the Virus included.

If someone can show me this, I would like to see this, as that make me jump a little faster for the PoCo then. I never mind saving $399.

Devon

Hi There

I own a supernova 2, and I recently invested in z3ta.

I really think that it is important to emphasise that each instrument really does have it's own character-

I sincerely believe that we are at the stage now where vst synths and hardware are comparable in sound quality. This does not eman all soft synths sound fanastic, nor does it mean the same about hardware. Rather we have the quality in both areas

Now it is time to explore and really appreciate these sounds and instruments, and explore them with fresh ears.

DevonB wrote:

munchkin wrote: I think there's an offer still available at the moment - if you buy a Poco you get the Virus included. If someone can show me this, I would like to see this, as that make me jump a little faster for the PoCo then. I never mind saving $399. Devon

Digital Village in the UK are advertising this deal in the latest Future Music magazine so I think it's still available.

http://www.dv247.com/invt/20643

I read recently that the new Virus filter is based on the classic Moog filter. So does that mean a Virus sounds more like a MiniMoog than any other plugin?

stefankuhn wrote:

I think there's an offer still available at the moment - if you buy a Poco you get the Virus included.

Just want to make sure people are clear on this..

The offer is if you buy the *original* PowerCore at full price (i.e. $999) and not the Powercore Element at $499. Some people are thinking if the buy the Element right now they are getting the Virus for free. This is absolutely not the case. This is so that dealers with remaining Powercore PCI stock which they paid for at much higher prices before the Element came out have an opportunity to clear out their inventory.

- sl

aMUSEd wrote:

I read recently that the new Virus filter is based on the classic Moog filter. So does that mean a Virus sounds more like a MiniMoog than any other plugin?

Oh oh! A virus vs minimoog war.

sl1200mk2 wrote:

stefankuhn wrote: I think there's an offer still available at the moment - if you buy a Poco you get the Virus included. Just want to make sure people are clear on this.. The offer is if you buy the *original* PowerCore at full price (i.e. $999) and not the Powercore Element at $499. Some people are thinking if the buy the Element right now they are getting the Virus for free. This is absolutely not the case. This is so that dealers with remaining Powercore PCI stock which they paid for at much higher prices before the Element came out have an opportunity to clear out their inventory. - sl

Thank you! That makes MUCH better sense!

Devon

i challenge any one to a hoover making contest my virus b vs your software.

what next !
dyson versus electrolux

warbug wrote:

i challenge any one to a hoover making contest my virus b vs your software.

Next challenge - who actually WANTS a Hoover sound anymore.

Devon

i do i do i do i do i do i do i do




http://faithindnb.com/gpk/GPK%20-%20The%20Saw%20is%20Family.mp3

Wonderful! Brilliant! I love it! His name is Deathblow and he starts posting at KvR with a Virus thread! Genius!

Welcome to KvR, Deathblow. There are a few VSTis that can come debatably close to Virus sounds. The unfortunate thing is the debate gets rather stupidly heated. It's almost like a religious war, except nobody has died for their cause yet.

Oh, and I don't know much about because I'm a guitar player. But I just love to read the Virus threads!

DevonB wrote:

Pfft, Eric just showed us a thread on another board 'claiming' the powercore version doesn't sound EXACTLY like a Virus. Just more people trying to 'justify' their expensive purchases.

Thirty - Love

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I read recently that the new Virus filter is based on the classic Moog filter. So does that mean a Virus sounds more like a MiniMoog than any other plugin?

Let

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Oh oh! A virus vs minimoog war.

Let - Second serice.

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i challenge any one to a hoover making contest my virus b vs your software.

Thirty - Fifteen

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what next ! dyson versus electrolux

Let

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Next challenge - who actually WANTS a Hoover sound anymore.

Fault






Sorry. I've been on a comfort break.

thank you for this thread

as it gave me many smiles and a couple laughs.. ahh

warbug wrote:

i do i do i do i do i do i do i do http://faithindnb.com/gpk/GPK%20-%20The%20Saw%20is%20Family.mp3

Do you have an isollated hoover sound off of your Virus then for comparison?

Devon

sl1200mk2 wrote:

stefankuhn wrote: I think there's an offer still available at the moment - if you buy a Poco you get the Virus included. Just want to make sure people are clear on this.. - sl

Hi sl1200mk2,

I did not write that, munchkin did. Please be careful
when quoting things. I don't want to be held responsible for things other people write.

Best,
Stefan

Just in case you were worried, I STILL like my Virus!

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36853

Oh, and I haven't turned it on again since posting that...

deastman wrote:

Just in case you were worried, I STILL like my Virus! http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36853 Oh, and I haven't turned it on again since posting that...

What a waste!

I'd buy that off you if it jus sitting around..

Michael.

stefankuhn wrote:

I did not write that, munchkin did. Please be careful when quoting things. I don't want to be held responsible for things other people write. Best, Stefan

Sorry Stefan, it wasn't intentional. Just one of those things were people are quoting people and it got twisted.

- sl

DevonB wrote:

warbug wrote: i do i do i do i do i do i do i do http://faithindnb.com/gpk/GPK%20-%20The%20Saw%20is%20Family.mp3 Do you have an isollated hoover sound off of your Virus then for comparison? Devon

nope, there are too many snakes out there with samplers. there are probally 6 ppl watching this thread warming up thier warez version of kontakt.

warbug wrote:

DevonB wrote: warbug wrote: i do i do i do i do i do i do i do http://faithindnb.com/gpk/GPK%20-%20The%20Saw%20is%20Family.mp3 Do you have an isollated hoover sound off of your Virus then for comparison? Devon nope, there are too many snakes out there with samplers. there are probally 6 ppl watching this thread warming up thier warez version of kontakt.

Ya, and? It's a frickin' hoover sound. No one out there has a Virus or something?

Devon

I wouldn't know the sound of a virus if it hit me.

bluedad wrote:

I wouldn't know the sound of a virus if it hit me.

nothing worse than being hit by a virus

FiqZ- wrote:

deastman wrote: Just in case you were worried, I STILL like my Virus! http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=36853 Oh, and I haven't turned it on again since posting that... What a waste! I'd buy that off you if it jus sitting around.. Michael.

Nah, I never get rid of anything. I'll hold onto it until the Virus sound is totally out of style, and then sell it real cheap just before they come back in style and the value skyrockets.

warbug wrote:

nope, there are too many snakes out there with samplers. there are probally 6 ppl watching this thread warming up thier warez version of kontakt.

Does this concept really keep you up at night?

no. but i do hate sampling synth sounds.

I got 64 of the Virus raw waveforms that I use in my A-4000...sounds awesome.

Also got them in .wav
maybe I should make a soundfont of them...

DevonB wrote:

warbug wrote: i challenge any one to a hoover making contest my virus b vs your software. Next challenge - who actually WANTS a Hoover sound anymore. Devon

May I refer you to http://www.dogsonacid.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=4. Or though, actually, even on there they're getting bored with it.

Hey, wait, isn't that in fact a Juno reference, or was that the point?

Anyway welcome, deathblow, to the mad house.