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AuthorTopic: A free but powerfull software synthesizer.
paulnasca
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:29
Hi.
My name is Paul.
I wrote a software synthesizer for Linux and Windows since March 2002. The synth is a powerfull one, there are 2 synth engines included and it has many effects. It's a poliphonic and multitimbral synth with full microtonal capabilities.
The sofware is free and published with full source code under GNU General Public License v.2.
The list of features (a long list Cool ), audio demos and the sofware itself are located at: http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net

Enjoy.
P.S. The VST suppot is not completely written yet, so for now, is available only stand-alone variant.
Paul
pheeleep
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:36
Thanks for posting this. Seems like a huge beast. The only thing is that I don't use standalone versions, so I will patiently wait for the VST Smile

Good to know you are working on it Very Happy
kuniklo
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:36
paulnasca wrote:
Hi.
My name is Paul.
I wrote a software synthesizer for Linux and Windows since March 2002. The synth is a powerfull one, there are 2 synth engines included and it has many effects. It's a poliphonic and multitimbral synth with full microtonal capabilities.
The sofware is free and published with full source code under GNU General Public License v.2.
The list of features (a long list Cool ), audio demos and the sofware itself are located at: http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net

Enjoy.
P.S. The VST suppot is not completely written yet, so for now, is available only stand-alone variant.
Paul


This sounds pretty good! Nice work.
kuniklo
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:38
Although I missed this:

Your Website wrote:

Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!


That kinda seals it for my Satanic New Age Heavy Metal band unfortunately. Evil or Very Mad
munchkin
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:43
Nice synth but I think we went through the religious issue before...and it got a bit heated if I remember correctly... Shit!
pheeleep
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:48
-edited- I am sure some people make new age and believe in Jesus...

Please provide a list of devine music genres Rolling Eyes
Spe3D
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:54
Shocked

Hell raiser of a synth Thanks Laughing Wink

One sure way to advertise something - ban a group of chaps and hot slut chicks from the use of it Evil or Very Mad Laughing Wink
pheeleep
Posted: 23rd May 2004 09:58
Hell raiser of a synth

LMAAO ( Laughing my agnostic ass off )
vurt
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:01
hmmmm calm down people let people be who people are
if you dont want to use the synth then dont.
i myself do not believe in god,and out of respect will not use the synth or have a go at the guy for his beliefs.cmon people this is how wars start
pheeleep
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:04
He's the one who should let people be who they are Confused
whyterabbyt
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:12
Well, Ive no objection to his religious beliefs, vurt, but I do object to his ludicrous and insulting stereotyping of other people and their music

Quote:
Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..)


I should also point out that setting conditions for use like this is probably not legitimate. He is reusing GPL'd libraries, which specifically forbids him from adding additional conditions and clauses to the license of any derived works. As such, the author is currently breaching the GPL.
Spe3D
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:13
vurt wrote:
hmmmm calm down people let people be who people are
if you dont want to use the synth then dont.
i myself do not believe in god,and out of respect will not use the synth or have a go at the guy for his beliefs.cmon people this is how wars start


I think I am calm Vurt Smile

I normally do respect others beliefs until they start preaching them as they then may conflict with my understanding of the universe – I might also consider religion to be a cause of much pain in this world as you correctly pointed out. I just had to write my little bit too Wink

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)
pheeleep
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:15
As such, the author is currently breaching the GPL.

Jesus wouldn't be happy about that!

Wink
original flipper
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:15
Hi

How do we come to terms with anothers lifestyle, belief system or moral code?

I have no answers; but I may - through silence and reflection free myself from making judgement.

The synth looks awesome though - develop this a little more and Native Instruments will buy the licence rights and employ you to boot!

Flipper.
vurt
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:18
wasnt actually aimed at you yours seemed merely a joke,i can take a joke,it was some of the negative comments,as far as i see it yes i would agree that maybe he shouldnt have such clauses (i dont know anything about gpl WR so im just going on the texts in discussion)he made these stipulations at his own site,not here at kvr-linke mucnchkin said these things get heated here i just dont want that personally,if you get a link and go to someones site and find something you do not agree with perhaps its best mot to bring that argument here,specially under kvrs new rules

IMHO Confused
SaviorNeeded
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:30
Two comments here:

1. The Bible says literally zero about style of music. There is no evil music. It is only the lyrics that determine if a song might be Christian or not.

2. Paul's statement unhappily detracts from his generous gift. His synth looks like it took a ton of work and I hope people will accept it in the spirit he's offered it.

Tom
wannabe
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:36
Hi, Paul,
this synth is really awesome !

THANKS!

It takes some time to figure out, how it works, but then...... Smile
I especially like the morphing-choir preset.
The possibilities are overwhelming.

Please release as soon as possible the VST-version Exclamation

Because the latency is much too high, and I can't change it (the instruction in the read-me can't help me).
xoxos
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:38
once you admit to being a cristian, or any other connection with a social conglom, you're open to anythnig you get.

christians tied my dad to a steel frame bed, cut open his gonads and tied lines around them connected to the foot of the bed, so that every second, especially every second he struggled, was agony.

we're not talking christian posse here, we're talking a bunch of old nuns who thought they could cure the 'wild man' outta my pop..

with a legacy like that, anyone who says "i am a christian" should bless their fucking cotton socks that they don't end up fucking dead.

my better half.. in a wheelchair for life.. because of religion.. the entire culture i live in.. full of prejudice and hatred.. you can't even walk naked.. because of religion.. my life.. total hell.. having to live like religious people decided i should. fuck this stupid shit.

now the original poster didn't come in here like that.. his post don't bother me none, but you get up to start defending someone who admits to being 'faithful' (ie. robot) then i tell you, sit back down and let the guy get everything he gets, so that he can understand exactly what it means to call yourself a christian, and why, even tho he didn't say dickie bird himself, he's still indicated as the oppressor. you think this is oppression? you try taking a few seconds on that steel bed buddy.

i say this over and over again.. neither a follower nor a leader be...
SaviorNeeded
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:43
If even half of that is true, I'd say your family should been legal action. (I'm being serious here, though I know that sentense might sound condescending--I don't mean it that way).

Tom
Ian Ainslie
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:44
I find it amusing that something as inoccuous as New Age gets tarred with the same brush as Heavy Metal Very Happy
I wonder whether you're allowed to make Stryper covers on it or not. There's a dilemma Laughing

I might try this out, as it seems like a biggie Razz
liqih
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:48
a synth is a tool
TotcProductions
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:52
Hey paul! Nice Synth! Like the harmonic section alot.
Two suggestions though.............

1). When you're ready to release it, wait and hire a graphix designer....the current gui is ugly as hell. Wink

2). DrOp the religious stuff from the webpage Rolling Eyes .....makes it look very cultish.....morman almost. Laughing

My apologies if you are a Morman Vst devloper...lol, that'd be a good company..."MorMan VST" Laughing
TotcProductions
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:55
Quote:
i say this over and over again.. neither a follower nor a leader be...


Yeah...be a god instead...it's much more fun! Laughing
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:57
Spe3D wrote:
vurt wrote:
hmmmm calm down people let people be who people are
if you dont want to use the synth then dont.
i myself do not believe in god,and out of respect will not use the synth or have a go at the guy for his beliefs.cmon people this is how wars start


I think I am calm Vurt Smile

I normally do respect others beliefs until they start preaching them as they then may conflict with my understanding of the universe – I might also consider religion to be a cause of much pain in this world as you correctly pointed out. I just had to write my little bit too Wink

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)



amen
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:58
downloaded...
will check it out soon
pough
Posted: 23rd May 2004 10:59
This:

"Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!"

is not a legal stipulation and therefore not violating the GPL. It is merely a request.

I don't see what the big fuss is. Everyone is allowed to believe whatever they want unless what they believe is that they're right and everyone else is wrong? Sounds kinda silly to me.

But wasn't this proven to be a joke? Or maybe I'm thinking of something else...
wannabe
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:00
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGH !!!!!

Is there anyone here, who tried this synth Question

I thought this forum is about INSTRUMENTS....
Mush
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:07
This is one hell of a synth,
Rock
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:16
I think the guy has the right to ask that his work not be used in producing music which stands against a cause he believes in. As for mentioning heavy metal and new age specifically, I'm not sure he mentioned them because he thinks the styles are intrinsically evil, or rather because they are so often associated with non-Christian themes. I don't think he would feel any better about them being used for blasphemous zydeco, Dixieland, fado, rococo, salsa or plain chant, but these styles and many others don't traditionally tend to be associated with non-Christian themes.

I am a Christian as well, but I think that is immaterial. I would have no problem with a communist creating a VST plug and asking that it not be used to promote capitalism... Any author should have the right to see his work used as he sees fit.
Ian Ainslie
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:18
I have had a play on it and it is a really solid synth. There are some lovely sounds and you can't go wrong for free.
Sounds harsh and digital to me, but that can be just as good as soft and warm.
Nice work and def. worth the d/l if you don't have any additive synths
Ian
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:19
sounds bloody great !!!

just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?

even at low biuffer size there's a bloody high latency
VitaminD
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:24
some of you guys really know how to welcome someone.. Shocked Mad

uhmm hi paul Smile

as wannabe said.. this synth is awesome.

By far one of the better sounding ones I've ever played. Extremely rich tone.. I absolutely love it.
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:25
spaceman wrote:
sounds bloody great !!!

just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?

even at low biuffer size there's a bloody high latency



yeah.. let me rephrase that..

THIS SYNTH IS BLOODY AWESOME!!!!!

great work Paul, very very nice
nb717
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:26
kuniklo wrote:
Although I missed this:

Your Website wrote:

Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!


That kinda seals it for my Satanic New Age Heavy Metal band unfortunately. Evil or Very Mad


I was planning on using it next full moon when my buddy Ozzy and I do the monthly virgin sacrifice bit! Laughing
VitaminD
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:27
spaceman wrote:
just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?


did you make sure to close the program and open it back up after changing the settings?
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:27
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
sounds bloody great !!!

just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?

even at low biuffer size there's a bloody high latency



yeah.. let me rephrase that..

THIS SYNTH IS BLOODY AWESOME!!!!!

great work Paul, very very nice



let me rephrase that a little bit more

THIS SYNTH ABSOLUTELY KICKS ASS !!!!

We're not worthy....
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:28
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
sounds bloody great !!!

just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?

even at low biuffer size there's a bloody high latency



yeah.. let me rephrase that..

THIS SYNTH IS BLOODY AWESOME!!!!!

great work Paul, very very nice



let me rephrase that a little bit more

THIS SYNTH ABSOLUTELY KICKS ASS !!!!

We're not worthy....



I think I need to extend that a little

THIS SYNTH IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!! AND I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT !!!!
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:29
VitaminD wrote:
spaceman wrote:
just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?


did you make sure to close the program and open it back up after changing the settings?



I did yes
nb717
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:29
pheeleep wrote:
As such, the author is currently breaching the GPL.

Jesus wouldn't be happy about that!

Wink


Not to mention Richard Stallman! Wink
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:30
db wrote:
kuniklo wrote:
Although I missed this:

Your Website wrote:

Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!


That kinda seals it for my Satanic New Age Heavy Metal band unfortunately. Evil or Very Mad


I was planning on using it next full moon when my buddy Ozzy and I do the virgin sacrifice bit! Laughing



I send the lam back to the butchers
Laughing
xoxos
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:31
saviourneeded - as for my father, we're talking 1940's utah - you're not going to sue the nuns.. especially if you've got some ute blood in you. the sheriff will strap you back down, won't he..

as for my 'eric the half a bee' let's say, you don't sue your family (the root being that the family knew i was not religious and therefore a relationship with me was forbidden, resulting in a double life, stress, and utimately a wreck.) hell, it's not like i can afford to care for someone in a wheelchair.. this is a christian-founded society! who is going to pay me the big bucks to emphatically disagree with their policies on everythnig???

not sure how to take your statement due to the various interpretations of xianity (either being god is unforgivable arrogance, or the natural state, like ussen to the apache..) i've met several individuals throughout my life who have been raised xian, usually in isolation, to an admirable degree of personal refinement.. add in the more 'ussenlike' interpretations and generally you've got something that isn't too far off from my own tenets.. but a demographic anaysis describes the benefit of refinement as not being sovereign to the format, at least not to the degree that trouble is :p

same old story.. nil to be gained by worrying it, or each other, here. i'm hoping to illustrate that there are concrete reasons for balking the faithful, i didn't just read that religion is bad on a 'slipknot' shirt or wherever Very Happy

some people might not think these are reasons enough to oppose religion.. i do, no discussion :p

just try and have a nice time without stomping on kitty heads you know.
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:32
how low can I go with the buffer size?
Or should I just find out myself? Laughing
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:32
This synth is totally awseome!!!!
That flanged guitar presets is Shocked
Full sound...reminds me of Cube but with better FX


I will prolly use it for my progressive house\breaks...canīt possibly see how it would offend Jesus...after all, God is a DJ.
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:34
xoxos wrote:
saviourneeded - as for my father, we're talking 1940's utah - you're not going to sue the nuns.. especially if you've got some ute blood in you. the sheriff will strap you back down, won't he..

as for my 'eric the half a bee' let's say, you don't sue your family (the root being that the family knew i was not religious and therefore a relationship with me was forbidden, resulting in a double life, stress, and utimately a wreck.) hell, it's not like i can afford to care for someone in a wheelchair.. this is a christian-founded society! who is going to pay me the big bucks to emphatically disagree with their policies on everythnig???

not sure how to take your statement due to the various interpretations of xianity (either being god is unforgivable arrogance, or the natural state, like ussen to the apache..) i've met several individuals throughout my life who have been raised xian, usually in isolation, to an admirable degree of personal refinement.. add in the more 'ussenlike' interpretations and generally you've got something that isn't too far off from my own tenets.. but a demographic anaysis describes the benefit of refinement as not being sovereign to the format, at least not to the degree that trouble is :p

same old story.. nil to be gained by worrying it, or each other, here. i'm hoping to illustrate that there are concrete reasons for balking the faithful, i didn't just read that religion is bad on a 'slipknot' shirt or wherever Very Happy

some people might not think these are reasons enough to oppose religion.. i do, no discussion :p

just try and have a nice time without stomping on kitty heads you know.




maybe we should leave this religous bashin/whatever for an other forum and lets keep the conversation limited to the synth instead

it's a fucking brilliant synth and all you guys can talk about is religion for fuck's sake
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:36
Mindless wrote:
This synth is totally awseome!!!!
That flanged guitar presets is Shocked
Full sound...reminds me of Cube but with better FX


I will prolly use it for my progressive house\breaks...canīt possibly see how it would offend Jesus...after all, God is a DJ.



Agree with spaceman...read my quote

Edit: about the gui...wasnīt there a designer here somwhere who offerd to make gui:s for free just to get some experience...quite good too his art was...maybe get these two guys together.
bucket
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:36
I used this synth last night on my laptop as I performed with my homosexual noisecore band. We're called "The Jesus Humpers."

Everyone there thought the synth sounded fantastic, then they all proceeded to have gaybuttsex.
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:38
Mindless wrote:
Mindless wrote:
This synth is totally awseome!!!!
That flanged guitar presets is Shocked
Full sound...reminds me of Cube but with better FX


I will prolly use it for my progressive house\breaks...canīt possibly see how it would offend Jesus...after all, God is a DJ.



Agree woth spaceman...read my quote



this is probably one of the best sounding synths I've ever played and all they talk about is religion

talk about missing the obvious Rolling Eyes
Sickle666
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:38
Damn mighty fine synth..I just used it in a blood-sex ritual. The Whores of Satan thank you for the extra hard work you put into it, seeing all that tempting flesh writhing in ectasy to your synth brought tears of joy to my eyes.

Oh, & don't bother posting a free synth anywhere on the web & expect to make moral demands on the user base you open yoursef up too.

Even if it was free, are you gonna screen your clients to root out all paganists? That was a wretchedly ignorant request you made. Besides, if christianity had not invented the devil to bludgeon it's captive audience into submission, there would not be any 'Satanic' music, whatever the fuck THAT is anyways...

I mourne the Widow, & despise the collective ignorance of christian slaves like yourself, but...

it IS a nice synth, so hats off, creep.
VitaminD
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:38
Mindless wrote:
This synth is totally awseome!!!!
That flanged guitar presets is Shocked
Full sound...reminds me of Cube but with better FX


yeah.. it doesnt get farty at low octaves like most synths does.. it just warbles down slower..

Laughing Love
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:39
bucket wrote:
I used this synth last night on my laptop as I performed with my homosexual noisecore band. We're called "The Jesus Humpers."

Everyone there thought the synth sounded fantastic, then they all proceeded to have gaybuttsex.



Razz
nb717
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:39
spaceman wrote:
db wrote:
kuniklo wrote:
Although I missed this:

Your Website wrote:

Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!


That kinda seals it for my Satanic New Age Heavy Metal band unfortunately. Evil or Very Mad


I was planning on using it next full moon when my buddy Ozzy and I do the virgin sacrifice bit! Laughing



I send the lam back to the butchers
Laughing


<Sigh!> Go ahead, can't find any real virgins this month anyway! Sad
VitaminD
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:40
sickle666 wrote:
Oh, & don't bother posting a free synth anywhere on the web & expect to make moral demands on the user base you open yoursef up too.


I forgot the word "please" indicated a demand.. Rolling Eyes get over yourself.
vurt
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:41
spaceman wrote:
Mindless wrote:
Mindless wrote:
This synth is totally awseome!!!!
That flanged guitar presets is Shocked
Full sound...reminds me of Cube but with better FX


I will prolly use it for my progressive house\breaks...canīt possibly see how it would offend Jesus...after all, God is a DJ.



Agree woth spaceman...read my quote



this is probably one of the best sounding synths I've ever played and all they talk about is religion

talk about missing the obvious Rolling Eyes



kinda what i said on page one,but as usual more concise Crying or Very sad why do i prattle on so much,anyway good to see were finally on to its musical merit Cool
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:42
even if he asked me to wear a pink hat and a miniskirt while playing it .. what the fuck do I care

you don't have to listen to it you know.. get a fucking life you idiots

I know it's not made with synthedit and it doesn't sound shit and it doesn't make unusable fucking beep beep kreepkreep poing swoing noises but please.. don't let that stop you using it Rolling Eyes
vurt
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:43
btw spaceman lamb has a B at the end Razz

victory is mine Very Happy
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:45
vurt wrote:
btw spaceman lamb has a B at the end Razz

victory is mine Very Happy



damn damn damn !!!! Laughing
maybe I can find some old medieval english spelling somewhere that's more favourable to me Very Happy
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:47
the oops preset doesnīt sound very religous to me
Spe3D
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:48
spaceman wrote:
vurt wrote:
btw spaceman lamb has a B at the end Razz

victory is mine Very Happy



damn damn damn !!!! Laughing
maybe I can find some old medieval english spelling somewhere that's more favourable to me Very Happy


how about 'sheep' Laughing Wink or 'sheeb' Laughing

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:50
Mindless wrote:
the oops preset doesnīt sound very religous to me



I have to admit Laughing
Sickle666
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:50
spaceman wrote:


maybe we should leave this religous bashin/whatever for an other forum and lets keep the conversation limited to the synth instead

it's a fucking brilliant synth and all you guys can talk about is religion for fuck's sake


Ok, so it's fine for him to walk in here & spout this totaly offensive christian bullshit, but when we react, it's out of line?

Sounds like 'turn the other cheeck' crap to me; another christian control mechanism right up there next to tithe collecting. I don't turn away from an insult. Especially from a guest in the house with no respect to other peoples' beliefs & what the fuck does any of that have to do with making music???

Talk about completely ruining the experience...
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:52
Spe3D wrote:
spaceman wrote:
vurt wrote:
btw spaceman lamb has a B at the end Razz

victory is mine Very Happy



damn damn damn !!!! Laughing
maybe I can find some old medieval english spelling somewhere that's more favourable to me Very Happy


how about 'sheep' Laughing Wink or 'sheeb' Laughing

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)



Laughing

the er.. what.. er.. my ... you know my.. what it was is.. I wanted to.. see, it's my keyoard is roken and I can't loody type any '' anymore

loody annoying
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:53
I really donīt think he cares what WE do with it, HE just donīt want to feel guilty for puttin a tool in the hands of sinners.
Spe3D
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:55
Laughing

Ye! I get th t ll the time s aceman Wink

Best regards,

S e3d

Laughing
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:55
sickle666 wrote:
spaceman wrote:


maybe we should leave this religous bashin/whatever for an other forum and lets keep the conversation limited to the synth instead

it's a fucking brilliant synth and all you guys can talk about is religion for fuck's sake


Ok, so it's fine for him to walk in here & spout this totaly offensive christian bullshit, but when we react, it's out of line?

Sounds like 'turn the other cheeck' crap to me; another christian control mechanism right up there next to tithe collecting. I don't turn away from an insult. Especially from a guest in the house with no respect to other peoples' beliefs & what the fuck does any of that have to do with making music???

Talk about completely ruining the experience...



is the 666 in your name a satanic reference? because if it is, that's religious crap as well you know.. there wouldn't be a devil without a god

and the point I was making is this.. I think it's religious bullshit as well but WHAT THE FUCK DO I CARE!! I don't have to marry the guy and he's not forcing me to go to church so if you want to react to it start a new thread in the off topic forum
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 11:58
Back on topic...what about the GUI for the VST version...a while ago, there was some dude here who wanted to skin synths for free just so he could get some experience.
His stuff was rather good too...what about gettinī him together with the dev.
Question Question Shocked Question Question
spaceman
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:00
Mindless wrote:
Back on topic...what about the GUI for the VST version...a while ago, there was some dude here who wanted to skin synths for free just so he could get some experience.
His stuff was rather good too...what about gettinī him together with the dev.
Question Question Shocked Question Question



I can do skinning as well.. I wouldn't mind helping either
original flipper
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:01
Hi

MAN THIS IS GETTING FUNNY!

Screw candid camera - its lucky ya'all are not on webcams-now that would be funny!!!
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pheeleep
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:02
I stand corrected.

It is true that the developper doesn't say "please don't use the synth if you are an Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim etc.."

He says "Please don't use it to diss Jesus".

As I do not praise or condemn religion, and am "neutral", this reflects in my music, so I wouldn't diss Jesus in a song anyway.

Now, how do you guys use standalone synths, such as this one? You export as wavs and then import into your host? Is that the only thing you can do? Or do you make an entire song using the standalone synth? I have never used standalone synths because I am just too comfortable in my cozy FL Studio environment. I'll give the synth a try, as a VST version is in the works....
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:08
spaceman wrote:
Mindless wrote:
Back on topic...what about the GUI for the VST version...a while ago, there was some dude here who wanted to skin synths for free just so he could get some experience.
His stuff was rather good too...what about gettinī him together with the dev.
Question Question Shocked Question Question



I can do skinning as well.. I wouldn't mind helping either



awesome...if your not a sinner, then by all means ask for permission to skin the synth for him.
Mush
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:08
This synth sounds very nice. This would be nice as a vsti.

Thanks for sharing this with us Smile

Mush
TotcProductions
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:09
bucket wrote:
I used this synth last night on my laptop as I performed with my homosexual noisecore band. We're called "The Jesus Humpers."

Everyone there thought the synth sounded fantastic, then they all proceeded to have gaybuttsex.


I don't even know what to say to that one. Laughing Surprised Laughing
pough
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:13
sickle666 wrote:
Ok, so it's fine for him to walk in here & spout this totaly offensive christian bullshit, but when we react, it's out of line?


Laughing Hey kids! It's time to play the "spot the totaly (sic) offensive christian bullshit" game! Let's start with

Quote:
Hi.
My name is Paul.
I wrote a software synthesizer for Linux and Windows since March 2002. The synth is a powerfull one, there are 2 synth engines included and it has many effects. It's a poliphonic and multitimbral synth with full microtonal capabilities.
The sofware is free and published with full source code under GNU General Public License v.2.
The list of features (a long list ), audio demos and the sofware itself are located at: http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net

Enjoy.
P.S. The VST suppot is not completely written yet, so for now, is available only stand-alone variant.
Paul


Can you spot the totaly (sic) offensive christian bullshit? No? Hmm... Isn't Linux a religion of some sort?
vurt
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:14
pheeleep wrote:
I stand corrected.

It is true that the developper doesn't say "please don't use the synth if you are an Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim etc.."

He says "Please don't use it to diss Jesus".

As I do not praise or condemn religion, and am "neutral", this reflects in my music, so I wouldn't diss Jesus in a song anyway.

Now, how do you guys use standalone synths, such as this one? You export as wavs and then import into your host? Is that the only thing you can do? Or do you make an entire song using the standalone synth? I have never used standalone synths because I am just too comfortable in my cozy FL Studio environment. I'll give the synth a try, as a VST version is in the works....



not a big user of standalones myself,but what iwould do is as you say export wavs to my host Wink
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:15
pough wrote:
sickle666 wrote:
Ok, so it's fine for him to walk in here & spout this totaly offensive christian bullshit, but when we react, it's out of line?


Laughing Hey kids! It's time to play the "spot the totaly (sic) offensive christian bullshit" game! Let's start with

Quote:
Hi.
My name is Paul.
I wrote a software synthesizer for Linux and Windows since March 2002. The synth is a powerfull one, there are 2 synth engines included and it has many effects. It's a poliphonic and multitimbral synth with full microtonal capabilities.
The sofware is free and published with full source code under GNU General Public License v.2.
The list of features (a long list ), audio demos and the sofware itself are located at: http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net

Enjoy.
P.S. The VST suppot is not completely written yet, so for now, is available only stand-alone variant.
Paul


Can you spot the totaly (sic) offensive christian bullshit? No? Hmm... Isn't Linux a religion of some sort?



true...just enjoy his gift...hopefully the vst is out soon with a skin from spaceman
kritikon
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:15
Aside from all the god guff, and all this stuff about it being a great synth.....what I don't understand is.....what's the point in a standalone, and how on earth do you use it if you can't open it up within a host app?
And I'm being serious here - I would like a nice new free synth. But if it's standalone, then do I have to play it out through my souncard outs, into something like my DAT recorder, and hope to (better not mention him/her/it though) that I played in time to my sequencer and in the right key, and then play it back from the DAT to record into my host? Shit! Not very likely with my playing Wink
Spe3D
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:16
Quote from link at site 'Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)'
end quote from the link to the site
pough
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:16
You could play it live... if you play live...
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:16
isnīt there a record button somewhere
koolkeys
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:17
sickle666 wrote:
spaceman wrote:


maybe we should leave this religous bashin/whatever for an other forum and lets keep the conversation limited to the synth instead

it's a fucking brilliant synth and all you guys can talk about is religion for fuck's sake


Ok, so it's fine for him to walk in here & spout this totaly offensive christian bullshit, but when we react, it's out of line?

Sounds like 'turn the other cheeck' crap to me; another christian control mechanism right up there next to tithe collecting. I don't turn away from an insult. Especially from a guest in the house with no respect to other peoples' beliefs & what the fuck does any of that have to do with making music???

Talk about completely ruining the experience...


Wait, I want you to tell me where this happened? When did HE ever come in here and "walk in here & spout this totaly offensive christian bullshit"? Oh, wait, he DIDN'T. It was YOU and others who brought religion into this.

1. He posted a simple REQUEST, saying PLEASE, all on HIS website, not here. HE didn't involve religion on this site at all.

2. He didn't come in here and say ANYTHING about your beliefs or way of life. What gives you the right to say something about his?

3. HE put the work into this synth for years. So he can make whatever request he desires, whether you like it or not.

4. If you don't like his request, then either ignore it and do as you please with it, or don't use it. Simple. It doesn't take much to understand this.

Some people really need to get a life and stop the stupidity. It's plain and simple. If you like the synth, use it. If not, then keep your mouth shut on this forum about his religious preferences.

I'm a Christian. I play the piano for my church every week. And alot of the music I write is Christian. My choice, get over it. I won't impose it on you here. I have strong beliefs. I won't ask that you agree with me. And I may not agree with you. It doesn't matter. We're on a MUSIC site. NOT a religious site. Note that he kept the religion off this site. Then some idiotic responses were made that totally threw this thread off. And yes, I'm contributing. I haven't said anything offensive to you, so please don't try and put me down. You won't hurt or offend me. And just as I have no right to say you are right, wrong, stupid, ignorant, etc., you have no right to do it to me either, or him.

I plan on downloading the synth tonight. I look forward to it as many here seem to like it. Thank you for giving this to us. And I'm sorry this thread had to go this way. Cheers!

Koolkeys
pough
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:20
Spe3D wrote:
Quote from link at site 'Please don't use this program to make music that is against God and Jesus Christ (eg. HeavyMetal, NewAge,..etc..). Realize that the only way to the Salvation is Jesus Christ. Please don't lose this chance and don't make others to lose it!

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)'
end quote from the link to the site


sickle666 wrote:
Ok, so it's fine for him to walk in here & spout this totaly offensive christian bullshit, but when we react, it's out of line?


I don't mind disagreeing with what someone has done, but at least get your facts straight so that you're actually disagreeing with what they have done.
Spe3D
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:20
It was the link here to the site there KoolKeys Laughing Wink
Grijak
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:20
xoxos wrote:
once you admit to being a cristian, or any other connection with a social conglom, you're open to anythnig you get.

christians tied my dad to a steel frame bed, cut open his gonads and tied lines around them connected to the foot of the bed, so that every second, especially every second he struggled, was agony.

we're not talking christian posse here, we're talking a bunch of old nuns who thought they could cure the 'wild man' outta my pop..

with a legacy like that, anyone who says "i am a christian" should bless their fucking cotton socks that they don't end up fucking dead.

my better half.. in a wheelchair for life.. because of religion.. the entire culture i live in.. full of prejudice and hatred.. you can't even walk naked.. because of religion.. my life.. total hell.. having to live like religious people decided i should. fuck this stupid shit.

now the original poster didn't come in here like that.. his post don't bother me none, but you get up to start defending someone who admits to being 'faithful' (ie. robot) then i tell you, sit back down and let the guy get everything he gets, so that he can understand exactly what it means to call yourself a christian, and why, even tho he didn't say dickie bird himself, he's still indicated as the oppressor. you think this is oppression? you try taking a few seconds on that steel bed buddy.

i say this over and over again.. neither a follower nor a leader be...



The bastards that did this to your Pop were NOT, I repeat NOT Christians! Nutter Ye shall know them by their fruits!
pough
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:24
koolkeys wrote:
Some people really need to get a life and stop the stupidity.
...
I haven't said anything offensive to you... I have no right to say you are right, wrong, stupid, ignorant, etc.


Confused
koolkeys
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:29
It doesn't matter if the link was from here to there. If you go by that, then there are alot more links on KVR that go to places with offensive material. But the point is that people are trying to make accusations that he came here and said something about religion. He DIDN'T!!! The only religious wording was on HIS OWN SITE. It's his right! If you want to put him down, then start a post on your own site, and link to it from here!

Still, people, get over it. He believes in God, you don't. Nuff said! Period. This is a music site, remember? He just posted to you here something for FREE that he worked a long time on. He never asked for your conversion or money. Good grief........

Koolkeys
snooky
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:31
this really is a pissing contest...we should all be talking about the synth no?

On secon thought:
I DEMAND THAT YOU ALL STOP THIS BULL OR I WILL CLOSE DOWN KVR, THE INTERNET AND THE UNIVERSE

:edit:



please, guys Crying or Very sad
pheeleep
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:38
lol pough. Dead on. lol
Spe3D
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:38
koolkeys wrote:
Good grief........

Koolkeys


Ah! you be needing this link then, or not Smile
http://www.churchofchristatgoldhillroad.org/study/slng.htm Wink

Best regards,

Spe3d

:O)

koolkeys wrote:


I'm a Christian. I play the piano for my church every week. And alot of the music I write is Christian. My choice, get over it. I won't impose it on you here. I have strong beliefs. I won't ask that you agree with me. And I may not agree with you. It doesn't matter.
LarryAW
Posted: 23rd May 2004 12:48
Thanks for the synth.

This is Random House Webster's College Dictionary's two definitions of new age:

New Age:

1. of or pertaining to a movement espousing a broad range of philosophies and practices traditionary viewed as occult, metaphysical, or paranormal.

2. of or pertaining to an unintrusive style of music, using both acoustic and electronic instruments and drawing on classical music, jazz, and rock.

What does #1 have to do with #2? Maybe I am wrong, but I have never considered new age music as having anything to do with religion whatsoever.

Again, thanks for the synth. I really appreciate it, and I am looking forward to the plug-in version.

Larry
Sickle666
Posted: 23rd May 2004 13:01
linking to the site in his post is the same thing as posting it's opinions here. The difference is a single click. If he was intrested in making available his work & NOT inserting his beliefs where they have no business, like debuting a synth Shocked , why not just make a download link & avoid all this bullshit here? Becuase he just HAD to make sure everyone knew where he stood. Every christian is a closet-martyr...

Flame on, I don't give a damn what anyone says about it. This issue is one of my rawest nerves, if not THE rawest, & I KNOW I am not the only one it's offended.
Barbed Wire Kiss
Posted: 23rd May 2004 13:06
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
sounds bloody great !!!

just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?

even at low biuffer size there's a bloody high latency



yeah.. let me rephrase that..

THIS SYNTH IS BLOODY AWESOME!!!!!

great work Paul, very very nice



let me rephrase that a little bit more

THIS SYNTH ABSOLUTELY KICKS ASS !!!!

We're not worthy....



I think I need to extend that a little

THIS SYNTH IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!! AND I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT !!!!


Sure? Rolling Eyes
vurt
Posted: 23rd May 2004 13:12
Barbed Wire Kiss wrote:
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
spaceman wrote:
sounds bloody great !!!

just one question (I could probably figure it out myself if I read the docs but anyway Smile ).. how do I get rid of the high latency?

even at low biuffer size there's a bloody high latency



yeah.. let me rephrase that..

THIS SYNTH IS BLOODY AWESOME!!!!!

great work Paul, very very nice



let me rephrase that a little bit more

THIS SYNTH ABSOLUTELY KICKS ASS !!!!

We're not worthy....



I think I need to extend that a little

THIS SYNTH IS ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!! AND I LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT !!!!


Sure? Rolling Eyes



makes me wish i was into standalones
let me know when the plugin hits our shores Wink
VitaminD
Posted: 23rd May 2004 13:12
sickle666 wrote:
linking to the site in his post is the same thing as posting it's opinions here.


no its not.

sickle666 wrote:

The difference is a single click.


well there is difference #1 right there..

sickle666 wrote:

If he was intrested in making available his work & NOT inserting his beliefs where they have no business, like debuting a synth Shocked , why not just make a download link & avoid all this bullshit here?


thats in your opinion.. the way he states it.. they do have business there.. he didnt introduce the synth with any religious statements here.


sickle666 wrote:

Becuase he just HAD to make sure everyone knew where he stood. Every christian is a closet-martyr...

Flame on, I don't give a damn what anyone says about it. This issue is one of my rawest nerves, if not THE rawest, & I KNOW I am not the only one it's offended.


he didnt make anyone here know where he stood.. external links are not part of kvr.. if you happened to leave kvr, then thats your own problem..

im horribly offended you have '666' in your name.. yet I have never brought it up before..

you just need to learn how to deal with stuff you have no control over..
Barbed Wire Kiss
Posted: 23rd May 2004 13:17

AUTO-ADMIN: Smilies have been disabled in this post in the quest for sanity! If this post is edited to contain no more than 20 smilies they will magically reappear.

pough wrote:

Hey kids! It's time to play the "spot the totaly (sic) offensive christian bullshit" game! Let's start with

Quote:
Hi.
My name is Paul.
I wrote a software synthesizer for Linux and Windows since March 2002. The synth is a powerfull one, there are 2 synth engines included and it has many effects. It's a poliphonic and multitimbral synth with full microtonal capabilities.
The sofware is free and published with full source code under GNU General Public License v.2.
The list of features (a long list ), audio demos and the sofware itself are located at: http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net

Enjoy.
P.S. The VST suppot is not completely written yet, so for now, is available only stand-alone variant.
Paul


Can you spot the totaly (sic) offensive christian bullshit? No? Hmm... Isn't Linux a religion of some sort?