This moth, DMM have a Special Edition, on SYNTHESIS. Its pretty good too. Lots of synths feature in two page spreads, giving basic tips and overviews on 'hoe to' kinda stuff. Very handy if you're not to hot on that stuff (like me )

All our favs are in there


Also, the CD has 50 free VSTi's too.

ooh i may even leave the house

cheers krim,i could do with some synthesis pointers

I wish i didn't live in motherf*ckin' germany. Here we just have crappy magazines

http://www.paragon.co.uk/mags/dmmse.html

try here to see if you can get it overseas

timewastin wrote:

I wish i didn't live in motherf*ckin' germany. Here we just have crappy magazines

I've seen this mag (not sure if it was this very issue) on a newsstand in Frankfurt airport a week ago. Guess it might be on sale in town as well.

I'm sure i haven't yet seen that magazine. Perhaps i should call my sister which is in England atm...

is she cute?
ill call her


seriously mate good luck

it's good to see that theres something good in there this month, but i have to say (and i may make some enemies here) that i bought one issue, and couldn't believe how sloppy it was. So many things about that magazine really wound me up - pages with completely the wrong thing written in the side columns (like they'd mixed up articles), argh this is bad that i can't think of any more specific things...

a few of the articles i read in it were interesting, but really i couldn't believe the amount of errors or just poor presentation issues in it. i hope i haven't upset anyone here by saying this but it just doesn't compare to the quality and polish of Computer Music. Maybe i'm just used to their style tho.

Also, the CD was in a really horrible format - every single item on the disc was stored in an .EXE compressed archive, and loads of shockwave stuff. I simply don't understand why they don't just store things in a normal directory structure so that you can look for files yourself. it just seems like a really poorly thought out system.

rant over!

chill out ya mad welsh bugger

It's a bit weird, is DMM SE, because that's actually the name of the mag "Digital Music Maker Special Edition". They've got a monthly release schedule and everything. I think they're the reason CM has gone all "subject issue" recently. (Doesn't explain why SoS have taken to putting tutorials as cover designs, though.)

Anyway, I'm not going to diss them, but I'd remark that they seem to really like Cubase SX2, in much the same way as CM really likes Logic, but more so.

Has anyone in America seen this mag in the barnes and nobles or anywhere?
I wouldnt mind checking this out.
Seems a little cheaper than CM also...I might be wrong tho.

DMM looks quite good to me. I'm fed up of reading the same old articles repeated in Computer Music & Future Music. The DMM articles are quire simple to follow (for a relative novice like me), but it's worrying that there's so many mistakes. They seem to like giving away lots of free plugins, so I'm not complaining!

wgreenlee1 wrote:

Has anyone in America seen this mag in the barnes and nobles or anywhere? I wouldnt mind checking this out. Seems a little cheaper than CM also...I might be wrong tho.

Borders in Niles, OH carries it - so I guess the other ones do too. I looked at it last month and yawned, but that may have been due to the subject on the cover. When I go in to check out CM this month, I'll probably look at DMM again.

Doug

I have to send a big thanks over to the guys at DMM..

they listed fitchsounds on page 108 in the SE.. ta to krim for telling me .. that made my day when i went and bought it

fitch wrote:

I have to send a big thanks over to the guys at DMM.. they listed fitchsounds on page 108 in the SE.. ta to krim for telling me .. that made my day when i went and bought it

Your in very good company on that page too

Its great to see ppl you know in mags init

I got in CM mag a few months ago. Not me personally, but my preset was used in the vocoder tutorial for Orion

i was in CM
interviewed about puttin me cd out

Hey: what are some of the 50 free VSTi's they feature?

TC

dougsyo wrote:

wgreenlee1 wrote: Has anyone in America seen this mag in the barnes and nobles or anywhere? I wouldnt mind checking this out. Seems a little cheaper than CM also...I might be wrong tho. Borders in Niles, OH carries it - so I guess the other ones do too. I looked at it last month and yawned, but that may have been due to the subject on the cover. When I go in to check out CM this month, I'll probably look at DMM again. Doug

Good to hear...will have to check it out later today.

... and what issue of CM were you in Vurt? *** Wants to through back catalogue of CM's to find said article and possible piccy of Vurt going all 'Vince Clarke' **

tconrardy wrote:

Hey: what are some of the 50 free VSTi's they feature? TC

FreeSonic
ninja
Rebel
Iblit
PolyIblit
Ensembler
Woo
SunRa
Invader
Mysteron
JX220
Mocheese
Trionimix
Claw
Motion
TobyBear Screamer
Rez
Superwave
MonoMonster
Modulation Pnademonium
Triangle 1
Triangle 2
Texture
Rogue
WNM 1
Dub Siren
dmiFlute
Delay Lama
dmiHammer
Devil Inside
Ganymed

Manc Chris wrote:

... and what issue of CM were you in Vurt? *** Wants to through back catalogue of CM's to find said article and possible piccy of Vurt going all 'Vince Clarke' **

somewhere around 70/80 ithink
its got kylie on the front

can i just say
thanks for the heads up on this dave
picked up a copy tonight well worth it if your like me n krim and dont really have a clue

and yeah congrats to claire,altho i didnt know you had made some ensembles for reaktor only recently picked it up tho so still many new things to find

Vurt said:

Quote:

somewhere around 70/80 ithink

That's a good answer...

To the police: "somewhere around 70/80 ithink"
To the old folks home: "somewhere around 70/80 ithink"
To the Mensa Society: "somewhere around 70/80 ithink"

Tom

I've seen it in the barnes and nobles for a few months now but I always walk out with CM or music tech.
better cd-roms

for fucks sake man,i cant even remeber my own name most of the time and you expet me to remember a magazine issue number

sheesh welcome to my world

i was gonna say maybe six months to a year ago,but i narrowed it down a bit for the sake of mortals

@timewastin

Quote:

I wish i didn't live in motherf*ckin' germany. Here we just have crappy magazines

LINPLUG Element P
[superb drumsynth]
> Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD

Native Instruments CARBON
[one of the best REAKTOR synths]
> Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD

Native Instruments KOMPAKT "Showcase"
[great sample collection]
> Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD

Virsyn MICROTERA
[top waveshaping synth]
> Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD

ORION 3.7 Basic
[world's best softstudio]
> Free on GERMAN PCGames/Hardware

AAS Tassman Light
[great sounding modular synth]
> Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD

5 Cycling-Plugs
[super MAC-plugs]
> Free on GERMAN KEYBOARDS-CD

Prosoniq Rayverb LE
[excellent reverb plug]
> Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD

So, what

OPEN your eyes before you
open your mouth to tell us such crappy and timewasting things !

Yeah, German magazine plugs are fine (but not as basically useful as the CM studio with its full-featured sampler) but the magazines ARE crappy - save keyboards sometimes, but Keys simply praises anything they get there hand on and the amount of useful information for e.g. mixing sums up to a max of 5 sentences per edition, the rest is pure blahbla.

Rich

Well, the german keyboards mag is definately one of the best magazines in the business IMHO. Good deep reviews that have the balls to say if something sucks. I like that mag even though I don't read german that well!!!

Cheers!
bManic

timewastin wrote:

I wish i didn't live in motherf*ckin' germany. Here we just have crappy magazines

timewastin, that's true. It's the reason I subscribed to CM last year (and did find there Kriminal's Orion-thing, but didn't know it was from you, thanks Kriminal ) So I read at KVR what's in CM sometimes, and 3 weeks later (postman here likes to have some drinks on his journey, well, why not, good man , but he's kinda slow then, he he) I can read it myself, hi hi...


So where to find THAT magazine if you don't have a sister living in the UK ?

Quote:

@VanLichten the CM studio with its full-featured sampler... but the magazines ARE crappy - save keyboards sometimes

Ok, the CM-Muzys together with all the MUON, LINPLUG, PSP and OHMFORCE stuff is really unbeatable (softwareside).
But 80 - 90 percent of CM is pure marketing - same with KEYS too.

So I buy magazines like these mainly for

- interviews
- product news
- (some) tutorials

BUT, sometimes the cdrom is the only reason to buy the mag because many infos are already placed somewhere in the WorldWideWaiting.

Quote:

@Klemperer So where to find THAT magazine if you don't have a sister living in the UK ?

Regarding CM:

YEAR-SUBSCRIPTION
Now you can make a subscription directly on
http://www.computermusic.co.uk/main.asp for only 6,90 EUR per issue free home if you are living in Europe.

ONLY ONE ISSUE
You can go to one of the bigger "international press" newsagents in the main railway station of next
bigger town. They are often connected with bigger booksellers and can order the mag directly through the distributor (Germany: SAARBACH) for nearly 19 EUR per issue...

Regarding DMMM:

Find contact data of your local distributor here:

http://www.paragon.co.uk/distributor.html




....

I think the thing to remember about magazines like Computer Music is that they have to cater for beginners. Every issue is someone's first and they may have no idea how to go about making music. That's why the same 'beginners' section is included in the mag each issue and it's also the reason that, if you read CM for long enough, you get similar articles repeating every so often.

I still buy CM pretty much every month, mainly for the coverdisc, but also it's always good to flick through the News, tutorials and other sections. Plus, my memory is shit, so I don't mind the repeating bits! I always find that if I read a 'beginners' article, I 'remember' some great trick I used to use...

I wish there had been as good a resource as CM when I first started out!

i just wish the thing didn't cost so damn much here in the states!

lates

t-willy

dougsyo wrote:

wgreenlee1 wrote: Has anyone in America seen this mag in the barnes and nobles or anywhere? I wouldnt mind checking this out. Seems a little cheaper than CM also...I might be wrong tho. Borders in Niles, OH carries it - so I guess the other ones do too. I looked at it last month and yawned, but that may have been due to the subject on the cover. When I go in to check out CM this month, I'll probably look at DMM again. Doug

Yeah, the borders in east brunswick, new jersey has carries DMM too.....they don't have the current special edition...it'll take a month before it gets here....fucking consolidated shipping!!!

Sorry if someones already mentioned this but couldnt be bothered to read the whole thread.

Sound on Sound mag have been running synthesis articles for the last couple of years and most of them, except the last 3 months can be accessed by anyone. just go to their site Sound on Sound and click on the links

vista wrote:

@timewastin LINPLUG Element P [superb drumsynth] > Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD Native Instruments CARBON [one of the best REAKTOR synths] > Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD Native Instruments KOMPAKT "Showcase" [great sample collection] > Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD Virsyn MICROTERA [top waveshaping synth] > Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD ORION 3.7 Basic [world's best softstudio] > Free on GERMAN PCGames/Hardware AAS Tassman Light [great sounding modular synth] > Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD 5 Cycling-Plugs [super MAC-plugs] > Free on GERMAN KEYBOARDS-CD Prosoniq Rayverb LE [excellent reverb plug] > Free on GERMAN KEYS-CD

Wow - those are some great freebies. I havent seen Keys here in the US (at Barnes & Noble and Borders). Does anyone know of any bookseller chains in the US that carry it? Is there any way of getting these past freebies?

You can reorder all intersting issues of Keys (www.keys.de), but the payment has to be done with cheque - i don know if they send in the US, though.
Especially Microtera and Tassman Mini are great and certainly each worth quite a sum of money.

Richard

t-willy wrote:

i just wish the thing didn't cost so damn much here in the states!

I just wish it didn't cost so much in the UK

i just like to have something to read every once in a while relating to computer music, especially for those days where i'm too exhausted from work to play with my gear. last time i went shopping i browsed through Computer Music, Future Music, Music Tech Magazine, and Digital Music Maker. at approximately $20 Cdn for any of them, one has to consider the CD. last time i looked i had all of the "non-demo" software listed on the CDs, which i had found here on k-v-r, hitsquad, or from an old issue i had bought in the past. i am usually not attracted to the "free samples" CDs as most have not been that impressive anyway.

(disappointed i bought "The 12th Planet" by Zecharia Sitchin).

it would be nice if the magazine makers came up with either more of their own original products, or made some lower cost alternative issues with no CD at all...

DMM Never heard before

In Portugal we can find CM, MTM (english,and also spanish editions ), Future Music and Musicrun (bought it only once: very poor). Of course also Keyboard, Electronic Musician etc, but hardware is not my playground. I was only able to get Keys in Germany (once in Bonn, but Köln airport seems to be the place).

I know these magazines have loads of crap but that's where I started to understand a bit what this world is about (specially the former, CM, that was much better years ago) and I must feel grateful for that.

CC4 quoth it would be nice if the magazine makers came up with either more of their own original products


What, like, the never-seen-before few hundred megabytes of sample content. Or the 'on sale for £60 per disc but we'll give yu 20% of it free' stuff. Or perhaps the 'no we dont do this' comissioned host, bass synth, lead synth, sampled drum machine, synthetic drum machine, sampler and some effects situation. Or the never-seen 'umlimited usage cutdown but still fucking impressive fully working VST synth' stuff.

Yeah that'd be nice.

i think the name DS404 should just be dropped in here dont you



my tweedle dum came today

vurt wrote:

i think the name DS404 should just be dropped in here dont you

Yes, along with this site to download free samples, most of which are a quite a bit better than free soundfonts.

Thanks CM!

lethe,

A few of the German Keys freebies (MicroTera, Tassman Light, Orion Basic) trickled their way down to Music Tech Mag, which is available here in the States. I've seen it at Borders.

MTM also had a version of Phatfree on it...that still had the "Computer Music" logo on it!!!

DMM is available at Border's, too. The issue they had at the store yesterday was the effects special...I can wait for them to catch up.

Why does it take about a month for those magazines to get to the States?

CM vs MTM vs DMM?

CM is probably my favorite of the three. I like their critiques of reader demos, as well as their section on recreating the production techniques of various artists. Their cover CD contains some good stuff, though much of this is part of their standard library which is included every month.

MTM seems to be the most sophisticated of the three. They have had a few freebies which have been jewels - such as the microTERA. They also have a few decent sampled instruments. On the other hand, they seem to have a Mac/Logic bias, and their sampled instruments are only available in EXS24, which is not supported by my sampler.

DMM is one I have only skimmed on the shelf, but my impression is that they are the most simplistic of the three. They also suffer from limited goodies on their cover disc. I haven't yet seen anything that isn't freely available elsewhere.

Agreed, the MicroTera is extremely nice.

whyterabbyt wrote:

CC4 quoth it would be nice if the magazine makers came up with either more of their own original products What, like, the never-seen-before few hundred megabytes of sample content.

Depends. With my luck, after subscribing they would end up providing the "Phyllis Diller Vokal Toolkit" or something equally unappealing.

whyterabbyt wrote:

Or the 'on sale for £60 per disc but we'll give yu 20% of it free' stuff.

Probably not. Do I really need the cutdown version of yet another basic sequencer?

whyterabbyt wrote:

Or perhaps the 'no we dont do this' comissioned host, bass synth, lead synth, sampled drum machine, synthetic drum machine, sampler and some effects situation.

CM-101, SR-202 I haven't used. Likewise CMuzys. However the 303, 404, 505 are perfectly worthwhile, as well as SpringVerb and Ohmygod.

whyterabbyt wrote:

Or the never-seen 'umlimited usage cutdown but still fucking impressive fully working VST synth' stuff.

Best of all.

Kriminal wrote:

This moth, DMM have a Special Edition, on SYNTHESIS. Its pretty good too. Lots of synths feature in two page spreads, giving basic tips and overviews on 'hoe to' kinda stuff. Very handy if you're not to hot on that stuff (like me ) All our favs are in there Also, the CD has 50 free VSTi's too.

3 pages later and there is some serious crap being typed.

Jeez, you guys need to get out more. A simple pointer to some usefull stuff turns into bullshit central

Cheeso wrote:

lethe, A few of the German Keys freebies (MicroTera, Tassman Light, Orion Basic) trickled their way down to Music Tech Mag, which is available here in the States. I've seen it at Borders. MTM also had a version of Phatfree on it...that still had the "Computer Music" logo on it!!! DMM is available at Border's, too. The issue they had at the store yesterday was the effects special...I can wait for them to catch up. Why does it take about a month for those magazines to get to the States?

Thanks Cheeso! I've gotten a couple of the MTM magazines lately - must have missed MicroTera but I do have Tassman 4 Free - must be the same as Tassman Light. Carbon and Kompakt "Showcase" sound very interesting - did MTM have them also?

Kriminal - sorry that this appears to be "serious crap" to you - perhaps you need a little sunshine also . And thanks for the pointer to DMM - it does sound like a good issue!

Kriminal wrote:

Kriminal wrote: This moth, DMM have a Special Edition, on SYNTHESIS. Its pretty good too. Lots of synths feature in two page spreads, giving basic tips and overviews on 'hoe to' kinda stuff. Very handy if you're not to hot on that stuff (like me ) All our favs are in there Also, the CD has 50 free VSTi's too. 3 pages later and there is some serious crap being typed. Jeez, you guys need to get out more. A simple pointer to some usefull stuff turns into bullshit central

oi
i thanked you on the last page for the heads up
what more do you want

@lethe

I think this is a very useful thread for
some freebee hunters outthere!

With the August '03 issue of Future Music magazine
http://www.futuremusic.co.uk/
you get two CDs of samples
AND the free ultra cool Native Instruments Carbon soft synth!

Perhaps it is easier to to buy FM in the States ?

Regarding KEYS SpecialEdition 12-2004 (5,90 EUR)
with 400 MB best quality samples
together with NI KOMPAKT
and perhaps a Year subscription
50,40 EUR (12 issues with CD)
plus 12,60 P&P outside Germany
here some data out of the mag:

KEYS Distributor GERMANY
subscriptions/issue ordering:
abo@keys.de
tel# 0049 +8131 5655 65

KEYS Office USA
tel# 001 570 587 4734

Good luck !

vurt wrote:

oi i thanked you on the last page for the heads up what more do you want

[pram mode]All the free stuff that comes with the Keys mag, cos no fucker will send me them [/pram mode]

vista wrote:

@lethe I think this is a very useful thread for some freebee hunters outthere! With the August '03 issue of Future Music magazine http://www.futuremusic.co.uk/ you get two CDs of samples AND the free ultra cool Native Instruments Carbon soft synth! Perhaps it is easier to to buy FM in the States ? Regarding KEYS SpecialEdition 12-2004 (5,90 EUR) with 400 MB best quality samples together with NI KOMPAKT and perhaps a Year subscription 50,40 EUR (12 issues with CD) plus 12,60 P&P outside Germany here some data out of the mag: KEYS Distributor GERMANY subscriptions/issue ordering: abo@keys.de tel# 0049 +8131 5655 65 KEYS Office USA tel# 001 570 587 4734 Good luck !

Thanks Vista! Though I'd love to subscribe to one of the european music mags (CM, MTM, FM, Keys, etc...), the price is kinda steep for delivery here in the states. And I just started into the computer studio thing around Jan or Feb. Oh well, I'll see if I can buy back issues from the publisher or find them on eBay. Or - is there anyone here who would be willing to part with the issues in Vista's post? I would love to get my hands on Kompakt or Carbon (legally).

lethe wrote:

Thanks Vista! Though I'd love to subscribe to one of the european music mags (CM, MTM, FM, Keys, etc...), the price is kinda steep for delivery here in the states. And I just started into the computer studio thing around Jan or Feb. Oh well, I'll see if I can buy back issues from the publisher or find them on eBay. Or - is there anyone here who would be willing to part with the issues in Vista's post? I would love to get my hands on Kompakt or Carbon (legally).

first i will say,i do not work for and have never worked for any computer music magazines ever

right,if youve only just started out a subscription to CM may possibly be the best investment you can make
not just for the free stuff but as a beginner i found it almost indispencable
i do understand the cost issues in the states but again as a beginner you will need it more than any major synths n stuff.
just my 2 cents
obviously im taking into account when you say beginner you mean you need help,if not ignore me

vurt wrote:

right,if youve only just started out a subscription to CM may possibly be the best investment you can make not just for the free stuff but as a beginner i found it almost indispencable

I quite agree - thanks for the input. If I remember correctly, a subscription in the US is in the area of $100. That won't do - too many other priorities for the money. But I can swing a magazine each month. CM is usually the best for me (still learning). And I've learned alot by trolling KVR. Like how you seem to show up in almost every topic. How on earth do you do this and make music and have a home life and go to work? That's amazing! I really should check out your music soon.

i wouldnt bother checkin out my music
i apparently "suck shite"
but insomnia is the reason i can show up anytime


anyway i can help in future ill do me best
look forward to hearing your work

@lethe

Nice to hear.

If you're english speaking only
i would recommend:

Order 1 or 2 German issues for the
freebees and subscribe to a good
english magazine (FM, CM,...).

NI CARBON is a musthave,
you'll get it as standalone AND as
vsti too.

NI KOMPAKT with samples is a
could have - but it has to be registered as an official NI-product on their site and works only on the registered computer then.

Best to you.

wgreenlee1 wrote:

Has anyone in America seen this mag in the barnes and nobles or anywhere? I wouldnt mind checking this out. Seems a little cheaper than CM also...I might be wrong tho.

I've seen issues in the USA in Borders (a large chain of "super" bookstores). The issue on sale now is all about VST effects and has 50 effects on the CD (and another CD with something else on it). I don't have the mag with me or I'd give you the exact info.

As a charter reader of Computer Music and long-time reader of SOS, FM, and the two crap American music mags, I find that DMM has some very creative ideas that make me want to keep reading. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any way for non-UK readers to subscribe. The mag comes out 6 times a year but seems to have frequent additional specials on Cubase and other boring subjects.