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AuthorTopic: ConcreteFX: possible group buy of synths: yes / no ?
Concretefx
Posted: 14th July 2004 01:15
Hi there

Firstly this is just me testing the water, it may not happen , it all depends on the type of feedback I get

I was wonder if people would be interested in a group buy of all our synths. This would contain Vocal , Unison / Micron , Adder , Digital, Dicer, Industry , Ethereal & Granite .

It seems to have been very succesful for other companies and I'm always of the view it's better to have lots of smaller payments rather than small number of large payments and also I think it would be bargain for purchasers if enough people are interested.

The initial price would be £110/$205/162Euro with a sliding scale down to £75/$140/112Euro for anything over 100 people come forward and I would run it till the start to middle of August

If you have a moment just click on the survey above and if I get enough interest I'll set up the system

Cheers

Jon : COFX
VariKusBrainZ
Posted: 14th July 2004 02:49
personally I think youre prices are so reasonable its not needed, however if it adds several hundred extra sales in one foul swoop then its a damn fine idea Smile
Concretefx
Posted: 14th July 2004 03:05
Hi there

Just one thing I forgot to add, if you have any of our synths already then I would reduce the overall cost proportional to what you already own, you would just have to tell us in the request email which synths you already have purchased

Cheers

Jon : CoFX
vurt
Posted: 14th July 2004 03:12
have to agree with creepjoint
the bundle at its initial price there is a bargain jon
but as you say its good to have more customers all at once than fewer and in dribs and drabs

and altho i myself will not partake(only because i only want one other from you and im willing to pay full price,i just gotta get paid Wink )i think many would so yeah go for it,but i dont think group buys in general should be too regular,that way people have a chance to get to know the ones they have just bought and save upo a bit Cool


sorry to go on smokin A grade skunk and im monstered Shit!
Concretefx
Posted: 14th July 2004 03:18
Hi there

Yes I can appreciate your pont, but it would be nice to give people the ability to get everything at a bargin price (and I wouldn't complain about the money) .

Hmm, Do people think I should release the whole lot as another synthpack and forget about the group buy purchase ?

Cheers

Jon
vurt
Posted: 14th July 2004 03:24
Concretefx wrote:

Hmm, Do people think I should release the whole lot as another synthpack and forget about the group buy purchase ?

Cheers

Jon



i think thats not a bad idea,and to increase sales rather than taking the cash down so far have a month or so where its available at say £100,then it goes up to 110
same sort of incentive as a group buy so you never know Wink

eiether way jon,good luck with it Cool
VanLichten
Posted: 14th July 2004 03:43
I think it would be a fine idea and i would go for it.
You could promote your company a lot and make some holidays after it; but perhaps you should make a more leveled
scale (including 150 or 200 or 250 buys), promote your idea on nearly EVERY forum out there and make - in these promotions - references to reviews of your synths.
(Your synths are great, but not much known, i feel.)
Another option would be to reduce the number of synths - e.g. Digital, Ethereal, Adder and Unison and the price accordingly
to test this out - i suppose in this price range a lot of people would go for such a bundle.

Cheers, Richard
Rabid
Posted: 14th July 2004 07:33
I would avoid having a complete package group buy. It may turn into a headache trying to keep up with discounts for people that already own some items. By the time you subtract those out you may not come out with much new business. Limiting it to Vocal and pushing it on other forums may result in the best desired effect, advertisement for the other synths. If Vocal is really good then it should encourage people to buy your other products. I have not tried Vocal yet but hopefully I can demo it this weekend. Ethereal is the synth that keeps me coming back to check your products. I just really like it for some reason. If Vocal can have that effect on potential new customers ...

One thing to be careful of, the possibility of a group buy for Vocal could cause potential customers to hold off on the purchase. Don't wait too long to make a decision.

Robert
Concretefx
Posted: 14th July 2004 07:43
Hi there

Some very interest posts here. What I think I'm going to do is to not go for a classic group buy. I'm going to introduce another synthpack which contains everything and I'll have a discount on this for the first month or so for people from kvr.

I think this would be easier and people wouldn't have to wait around till the group purchase finishes.

Do people think this is a better idea ?

Cheers

Jon : COFX
kuniklo
Posted: 14th July 2004 08:36
Concretefx wrote:
Hi there

Some very interest posts here. What I think I'm going to do is to not go for a classic group buy. I'm going to introduce another synthpack which contains everything and I'll have a discount on this for the first month or so for people from kvr.

I think this would be easier and people wouldn't have to wait around till the group purchase finishes.

Do people think this is a better idea ?

Cheers

Jon : COFX


I think that makes more sense. Your stuff is a steal at current prices anyway!
vista
Posted: 14th July 2004 12:40
1. Very good: Paypal AND Shareit

2. Bad: Too many synthpacks with too many overlapping
> Better max. 3 different Synth-Powerpacks
(entry [only2],mid [only4] and high (all synths together well priced))
divided in 2 price categories:
firstbuyer and existingcustomer
(min. 1 registered product [synth OR fx].

> Limited-Time offer: HIGH-Synth-Buyer gets one FX of OWN CHOICE for free.

Make it clearer to the custumer Wink


3. Bad: The detailed page covers only standard infos about the products.
What is the reason i should buy this special synth ?
Are there any links to top-reviews ?

AND:
The list overview of all products should contain a
short description (1 or 2 lines)

4. SynthPacks could , FX-Packs should be offered !

Good luck !

Smile
ATS
Posted: 14th July 2004 13:34
I think you would defiently make more sales with a group buy if you do it and promote it right.
ageis
Posted: 14th July 2004 14:12
I'm somewhat torn here.

Given the CFX's current prices, and Jon's very generous attention to his customers, y'all should have at least one CFX product on your harddrive. Their quality is excellent, and Jon is so attentive to his customer base.

Then again, a group buy certainly generates a lot of publicity, and publicity is always good.

Unfortunately, a full synth pack probably means overlap for a lot of people here with some stuff, and I can only imagine working out deals with 100+ people (maybe more) would be an administrative nightmare.

As far as leveraging the group buy, I would suggest doing a group buy for a 'coupon'... every 50 people is 5% off your total purchase up to 20% or so. That way you get the benfits of the group buy publicity as well as letting people just fill their shopping cart with whatever they want/need without having to put things together individually.

Actually, that seems like a really cool idea. Especially since you have that really nice new synth that I don't yet have Wink
Lunch Money
Posted: 14th July 2004 14:56
Many of us are only occassional synth-users, but we'd like to have certain synths in our arsenal. ConcreteFX have always struck me as a fantastic company with a more-than-competitive price right off the top.

From MY perspective, I have to say that I wouldn't be in for a group buy on the whole pack. What I WOULD be in for is a group buy on a "choose your own trio" type of affair; however, since you already have bundled pricing on trios/quartets, I'm not sure what sort of snow this particular rolling ball would pick up, you know?

Anyhow, I voted "Yes", because it's still a good idea, and might put some of those people who have hovered over the "buy it now" button into giving themselves the green light. On the other hand, as has been mentioned, your prices are already hard to beat.

Greg
vurt
Posted: 15th July 2004 01:53
Concretefx wrote:
Hi there

Some very interest posts here. What I think I'm going to do is to not go for a classic group buy. I'm going to introduce another synthpack which contains everything and I'll have a discount on this for the first month or so for people from kvr.

I think this would be easier and people wouldn't have to wait around till the group purchase finishes.

Do people think this is a better idea ?

Cheers

Jon : COFX



hyper this was my idea
do i get a free tee shirt Razz


seriously tho,i think this is a better idea than an actual group buy
but as has already been said your synths are a steal anyway Cool
Concretefx
Posted: 15th July 2004 02:32
Hi there

Yes you did, if I did t-shirts you would have one Vurt, you could have one of my old ones but I not sure that it would be very nice for you

So in conclusion , thanks for all the replies and votes. The vote is over now , and thou 75% was quite positive I think it would be easier and quicker for people if I just released a synthpack containing all our synths . I'll do this in next day or two. About fxpack , containing all the fx's there is already one, more details at http://www.concretefx.com/DownloadEffects.htm

Cheers

Jon
vurt
Posted: 15th July 2004 02:34
Laughing nice one jon


as ive already said good luck with it
onwards and upwards Cool
smp
Posted: 15th July 2004 20:32
I know the vote is over and the decision has been made (and it's a good idea too, Jon - probably the best way) but I just want to say this...

Developers, please spread your group buy offers out a little! Crying or Very sad

After convincing myself I didn't need Cameleon, I'm now patiently waiting for my wife to convince me I don't need to take up Squid's offer on the Sonic Synth pack. It would just break my heart to see all these other group buys pop up at once, never to be seen again.

Of course, I don't actually need any of these things, and I've always been pretty good in not getting caught up in the whole VSTi addiction thing (having a wife who is happy for me to buy things but only if I can actually justify the more expensive ones to her helps), but every now and then it's nice to have something new to play with.

I had a point here somewhere. I think I'm in danger of losing it...

-s
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