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AuthorTopic: AlgoMusic presents HG Fortunes X-WOFortune !
tconrardy
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:00
X-Wheel of Fortune





AlgoMusic is happy to host X-Wheel of Fortune by H.G. Fortune, which is an algorithmic pattern-based music system as a free vsti-plugin for Windows.
It comprises 3 editable synth-parts (bass, solo & pad) and one percussion part (standard wav-file loadable, each with tune, pan & volume).

The X-Wheel of Fortune music system is capable of generating a wide variety of facinating music based on very few input-data. Thus you can let it play and let "the flux flow" or control it at realtime via MIDI/Keyboard for instant transposition. Settings of 9 different musical scales is supported, a complete
mixersection offers for all parts temposynced delays.

Download it here

http://www.algomusic.nl/freeware.html

(3.56Mb, including manual in PDF format)

Additional info is available here: http://www.flomo-art.de/se

The integrated soundbank comprises 128 patches by Tim Conrardy, Carlos Needham, Vera V. and H.G. Fortune

Be sure to also check out our products page regarding the popular M42 Nebula VSTi.

http://www.algomusic.nl/products.html

You can download the M42 Nebula demo on the downloads page.

Have fun with X-WOFortune, a wonderfull algorithic synth.

BTW: the first version ( Wheel of Fortune..or WOF for short) is still available and was skinned by UGO. I also did a bank of presets for it available on Patch Arena.

Time to make Music!

TC
püRe
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:02
Shocked
Sicklecell666
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:08
I second that..

Shocked Shocked Shocked
morelia
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:14
Not another one. The download did not show up on the http://www.algomusic.nl/freeware.html site. Don't tell me. It is down the bottom somewhere. I seem to have this problem with a few pages. New additions don't show up. Is it really there? Perhaps a direct link would be possible. Looks cool though.
Jeremy_NSL
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:18
Absolutely wacky... Shocked Its like your very own psychedelic-synth-jazz band!

How about all the other modes? dorian, et al?
aMUSEd
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:20
I liked this when it first came out but didn't it have a different interface? I think I rather liked the old one's looks though I assume the new version has many improvements overall.

Thanks.

edit - ah found a pic on the original page

morelia
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:22
It did have a different interface. You can look but don't touch here http://www.flomo-art.de/se
spaceman
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:34
sickle666 wrote:
I second that..

Shocked Shocked Shocked


I will third that

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
tconrardy
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:51
aMUSEd wrote:
I liked this when it first came out but didn't it have a different interface? I think I rather liked the old one's looks though I assume the new version has many improvements overall.

Thanks.

edit - ah found a pic on the original page



Yeah

This was the original WOF skinned by UGO. However UGO was too busy to skin the new one, so HG did it himself...and not too bad...lots of parameters on this synth too...and a great percussion module as well...did a few patches called PRC just using that.

and the link IS at the bottom of the freeware page.

Tim
morelia
Posted: 14th August 2004 16:56
Quote:
and the link IS at the bottom of the freeware page.
Yep. That is where it usually is when it doesn't show up at all in my browser. This is the last thing that shows up for me:
Quote:
String Syntheszer

Emulation (no samples here!)of those String Synthesizers of the late 70's made famous by ARP and Solina .
The characteristic "ensemble" sound of those machines was not realised by adding expensive oscillators, but by using a (at the time) brand new and relative low cost technology: the BBD chip (Bucket Brigade Device), which was basicly a analog delay line. Included are 40 patches by Tim Conrardy, UGO, Matthew DeMeritt and Dr A.

Download v1.1 here.
I have deleted everything in my cach etc and refreshed until the cows came home. Oh well. Such is life.
Jeremy_NSL
Posted: 14th August 2004 17:06
I don't know what is wrong with your browser, morelia, but I'll pm you the direct link (In case Tim & co. would prefer it wasn't used)
xRAVENx
Posted: 14th August 2004 17:33
Is there some way to tell this thing to stay in a certain key? Or modes?
waiting man
Posted: 14th August 2004 17:34
Surprised Shit! Surprised
just rushed through the first ten presets...

good, good, good.

maybe has a flatty gui, but...wow.
congrats and thanx.
gizmo
Posted: 14th August 2004 17:40
Wow, incredible. I think I know where this is headed and have no fear, I'll have to buy it!
gnu23
Posted: 14th August 2004 18:45
Ok, this puppy has some major coolness happening. Want to have some fun? Pull up eXT and work the preset generator - blend, crossfade, sit back and boggle.
We're not worthy....
tconrardy
Posted: 14th August 2004 19:12
floyd wrote:
I don't know what is wrong with your browser, morelia, but I'll pm you the direct link (In case Tim & co. would prefer it wasn't used)



Our motto is "we aim to please" so here ya go:

http://www.algomusic.nl/ARimages/XWoF-VSTI.zip

RE: scales: theres two modes: ( selected by the top left dialog) You can control the key by the keyboard, meaning, hit a D, and it's in the key of D. or...Keyboard and random mode...which means it changes key when it wants to while you are playing...interesting stuff can be had however.

Also, I selected all my patches for the tempo to be controlled by host. This means you can put in an M42, and everything will be synced up..WATCH OUT! Shit! Shocked

TC
morelia
Posted: 14th August 2004 23:34
Thanks Tim
atomic_(no)afro
Posted: 15th August 2004 00:29
Impressive, man I hope this baby isn't a CPU hog given all the parameters.
papawillow
Posted: 15th August 2004 00:32
Thanks Tim and thanks H.G. Fortune.
wgreenlee1
Posted: 15th August 2004 09:13
Very cool stuff!
Thanks a bunch.
Fortune
Posted: 15th August 2004 10:18
Hi all,

as the author of X-WoF I'd like to answer a few questions.
@xRavenx:
Quote:
Is there some way to tell this thing to stay in a certain key? Or modes?

not really, if you use MIDI/KB=Keyboard mode that's the one you want. But X-WoF will generate further notes around the base-note, well, actually it's the task of this prog Wink
@all:
There are three modes:
MIDI/KB, where is no transposition (except manually by MIDI/KB) and further notes are generated around the base-note
MIDI+Auto offers a "hard"-transposition of +3,+5,+7 and -3 halfnotes in different succession returning to base-note after 12 x of what is set at bars (1B, 2B, 4B or 21)
AutoAlgo is a bit more musical (and tricky) as it refers to the scalesetting for transposing within a specific range. This was a last-minute-addition to the prog which I found quite useful.
Also I did experiment with some kind of "playlist" changing to other programs after x bars, but this could not be solved by now to be in this version as it leads to a major change in structure. So this feature will be in the Pro-Version.

@atomic_afro:
no, it is not a CPU hog although there is a lot of stuff working inside, but very much optimized Wink On my PIV 2.5GHz there is a CPU-load of 10 to 12% normal, ok some times there are peaks up to 20%, but there is no need to have much stuff playing aside of X-WoF as I think Embarassed

@morelia:
Quote:
look but don't touch here http://www.flomo-art.de/se
what did you mean with that???? Shit!

cheers
H.G. Fortune
blixa
Posted: 15th August 2004 11:01
Fortune wrote:
Hi all,

as the author of X-WoF I'd like to answer a few questions.


could one use it to just channel the midi data (that WOF probably internally generates) to *other* synths?

sorry if that's a stupid question, seeing i won't be able to download and check it out until i get home...
tconrardy
Posted: 15th August 2004 11:10
blixa wrote:
Fortune wrote:
Hi all,

as the author of X-WoF I'd like to answer a few questions.


could one use it to just channel the midi data (that WOF probably internally generates) to *other* synths?

sorry if that's a stupid question, seeing i won't be able to download and check it out until i get home...



goood Q..although you would need something like eXT to make use of that function.

TC
Fortune
Posted: 15th August 2004 11:32
blixa wrote:
Fortune wrote:
Hi all,

as the author of X-WoF I'd like to answer a few questions.


could one use it to just channel the midi data (that WOF probably internally generates) to *other* synths?


hmm... X-WoF is generating only MIDI-notes on bass-, solo- and Pad-part but no other MIDI-Data. You need a host like Cubase or MiniHost to make use of these notes eg recording in a different track or driving other synths. I did check this within Cubase SL and Minihost driving an Alesis ION and a JD-800 - my only hardware-synths left Very Happy

btw. MIDI-Out for the parts is not dependant on Ext/Int setting - the notes are always sent.

cheers
Fortune
Ja.x
Posted: 15th August 2004 12:07
I came across the original version of this synth for a while, and even sugested it for Vurt's three hours "assignment": just let it play. It makes lots of fun, although I never saw any serious use for it.

Curious about what this version adds to the first one. Going to download it now.

Smile
vurt
Posted: 15th August 2004 17:37
its a small v Embarassed

anyway downloadin,rolling will test forthwith Cool
blixa
Posted: 16th August 2004 04:13
Fortune wrote:
blixa wrote:
could one use it to just channel the midi data (that WOF probably internally generates) to *other* synths?


hmm... X-WoF is generating only MIDI-notes on bass-, solo- and Pad-part but no other MIDI-Data. You need a host like Cubase or MiniHost to make use of these notes eg recording in a different track or driving other synths. I did check this within Cubase SL and Minihost driving an Alesis ION and a JD-800 - my only hardware-synths left Very Happy

btw. MIDI-Out for the parts is not dependant on Ext/Int setting - the notes are always sent.


whoa! really cool! are the MIDI-out notes sent to distinct MIDI channels? like bass -> ch. 1, solo- to ch. 2, and pad-part to ch. 3?

i'm sorry if you explain that in your manual. i haven't been able to check out this lovely piece you've created, cuz my notebook is broken (Crying or Very sad), but i am really interested in algorithmic tools, especially when they are so flexible like yours (which with midi out, your synth-jukebox would really be)!

thanks so much for making it available!
Fortune
Posted: 16th August 2004 04:20
Quote:
whoa! really cool! are the MIDI-out notes sent to distinct MIDI channels? like bass -> ch. 1, solo- to ch. 2, and pad-part to ch. 3?

yep, these are the channels for MIDI-out. I had to preselect these channels as having 3 more selectors scattered somewhere on the gui seemed to be a lot more unappropriate.

cheers
Fortune
blixa
Posted: 16th August 2004 05:10
Fortune wrote:
yep, these are the channels for MIDI-out. I had to preselect these channels as having 3 more selectors scattered somewhere on the gui seemed to be a lot more unappropriate.
argh. i really want to spin that wheel now! f'ing acer notebook to die on me after less than a month.

question: what are your plans for the commercial version? i think at least, it was indicated somewhere in this thread that there is one in the works?



edits: two edits to get my quotes straight... argh, why am i too lazy to press "preview"
aMUSEd
Posted: 16th August 2004 05:23
blixa wrote:
Fortune wrote:
Hi all,

as the author of X-WoF I'd like to answer a few questions.


could one use it to just channel the midi data (that WOF probably internally generates) to *other* synths?

sorry if that's a stupid question, seeing i won't be able to download and check it out until i get home...


Yes works nicely with Energy XT - just uncheck the audio out and route the midi out to the midi in of another VSTi, then connect it's audio out. So far the sound has been interesting but a bit limited with simple VSTi's but I must try this later using Reaktor and some more complex sounds or beats. Might be interesting to use a sampler too.
Fortune
Posted: 16th August 2004 05:45
aMUSEd wrote:


Yes works nicely with Energy XT - just uncheck the audio out and route the midi out to the midi in of another VSTi, then connect it's audio out. So far the sound has been interesting but a bit limited with simple VSTi's but I must try this later using Reaktor and some more complex sounds or beats. Might be interesting to use a sampler too.


As there are only "monophonic" synths working inside of X-WoF there are only quite a few notes on MIDI-Out. The special and "full" sound within X-WoF is mostly caused by the "tricky" delay-settings. Very Happy

cheers
Fortune
krhen
Posted: 16th August 2004 07:12
As a fan of the original WoF I like what you've done. Its a shame Ugo doesn't have the time - but I think it'd be quite worth it to make a new interface that better organizes the pieces of XWof as they associate with each other. If you have the interface graphics for the original available AND Ugo would offer his permission, perhaps I could take a crack at putting it over XWof? I'd be more than happy to. Thanks
Fortune
Posted: 16th August 2004 07:30
krhen wrote:
As a fan of the original WoF I like what you've done. Its a shame Ugo doesn't have the time - but I think it'd be quite worth it to make a new interface that better organizes the pieces of XWof as they associate with each other. If you have the interface graphics for the original available AND Ugo would offer his permission, perhaps I could take a crack at putting it over XWof? I'd be more than happy to. Thanks

If using the graphics from the former WoF you'd have to double the screensize. Sad
And I don't think many would like to switch each synth-part seperately onscreen in a common area for editing. This would have been the alternative consequence. Surprised

cheers
Fortune
krhen
Posted: 16th August 2004 07:33
No I don't think so. I'd keep it the same size more or less. Idea would be the wheel in the middle with the parts around it. I think it could work (but won't know unless I try Smile
Fortune
Posted: 16th August 2004 07:46
krhen wrote:
No I don't think so. I'd keep it the same size more or less. Idea would be the wheel in the middle with the parts around it. I think it could work (but won't know unless I try Smile

Each of former WoF's skin knobs is 32x32 pixel, the current have only 21x21 pixel, sliders use even more space onscreen due to heigth. Now You may do a calculation. Or use a screenshot of the former WoF, cut out elements needed and try to do a gui within a graphics prog. You'd surely exceed the measures (width & heigth) of X-WoF.

cheers
Fortune
krhen
Posted: 16th August 2004 07:50
Quote:
Now You may do a calculation


Or I might shrink whatever components need to be shrinked. Maybe I will mock one up from the screenscrape of the original...
wannabe
Posted: 17th August 2004 11:12
Killer-app!!!

Last night I've played around with it in chainer, clicking extensively the random-button, till I heard something I like (almost after every third click Very Happy ), tweaked it a bit and recorded it. Then I put the wavs in my beloved MAGIX CLEANING LAB DELUXE 2004 (great low-cost mastering tool, don't be fooled by the fancy GUI), started chainer within (in chainer : first effect ambiance (subtile settings), second one EnergizeII, export the wav and burned it as an audioCD.

Amount of time : 3hrs.
Result : Absolute professional sounding CD with musical textures, ready for using as soundtrack or backgroundmusic or chillout or whatever... (maybe I should sell this as a sample-CD... Smile ).

Not bad.... Very Happy
BeatMax
Posted: 17th August 2004 12:53
Lovely! I really like this one. This is the kind of vsti that runs alone for itself. Its plain fun just listening to its constantly evolving soundscapes.

Keep up the great work!

BMX
Fortune
Posted: 21st August 2004 09:58
Thanks for the great response to X-Wheel of Fortune.
Let me know what features You'd like to see in the ProVersion.

Thanks
Fortune
Improv
Posted: 21st August 2004 10:37
Fortune wrote:
Thanks for the great response to X-Wheel of Fortune.
Let me know what features You'd like to see in the ProVersion.

Thanks
Fortune


How about seperate outputs for Bass, Solo, Pad and Perc?

Very Happy
Improv
Posted: 21st August 2004 10:38
copy
normal
Posted: 21st August 2004 11:04
specify sequence length w/save as .mid w/separate .mid tracks ...
Fortune
Posted: 22nd August 2004 06:18
Hi,
- separate out for each part is already on the list.

- Specifying length is something I have in mind as well, but I'm still pondering on a solution for integrating this userfriendly so there won't be 1001 buttons on the gui.

- Saving as MIDI-file will not be possible as there is no such module within SE. But anyway one can record the MIDI out into a different track, save as format 0 an reimport to be split by channel. Most sequencers can do this.

cheers
Fortune
Improv
Posted: 22nd August 2004 09:16
Fortune wrote:
Hi,
- separate out for each part is already on the list.


Thanks!
Cool
Hunter
Posted: 22nd August 2004 11:35
Wow, this looks and sounds pretty intersting

Nice one Tim and DrA

JIm
Fortune
Posted: 27th August 2004 04:55
I'd just like to remind users of X-WoF to send me patches, so we can build new banks for free download.

Thanx
Fortune
Fortune
Posted: 3rd September 2004 23:34
Exclamation
X-Wheel of Fortune Pro is getting nearer. You can check the first details on my updated Algorithmic VSTi website
www.flomo-art.de/se

comments are welcome - as it has a new skin also.

cheers
H.G. Fortune

btw. I'll be out till sunday night (GMT-1) Smile
Sicklecell666
Posted: 4th September 2004 00:00
Personally, I'd rather de-code the Human Genome with a can opener & tweezers than try & program this monster..I don't know how those great presets were made in the Algo release; I would have had a nervous breakdown way before I came to terms with it, but it's one of the more amazing creations I have come across & I am most definately instrested in the Pro version.

Congrats on a true mind-bender!
Illusionist
Posted: 4th September 2004 02:47
Great work, I really enjoy the presets! Thanks! Cool
Fortune
Posted: 5th September 2004 13:55
sickle666 wrote:
Personally, I'd rather de-code the Human Genome with a can opener & tweezers than try & program this monster..I don't know how those great presets were made in the Algo release; I would have had a nervous breakdown way before I came to terms with it, but it's one of the more amazing creations I have come across & I am most definately instrested in the Pro version.

Congrats on a true mind-bender!

thanx ... well, to me it has been only at times a rather difficult part/task to find certain solutions having that machine the way it works. If one has found out some specific basic clues it is mostly a matter of evolution and eg. one feature gives ideas to new ones. Looking back it started with a quite simple machine although a larger structure was already behind that one ... the development was interrupted for several reasons then but about 8 weeks ago I was able to catch up again and the flux was there as well ... I need that continous flux for taht kind of work
Wink

cheers
Fortune
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