This is an unsolicited expression of amazement/appreciation to Camel Audio & it's users for the incredible preset collection available for this fantastic instrument. The screenshot below only lists the Factory banks & the Group Buy bonus banks (which are outstanding). That alone amounts to almost 1,100 patches



And there's probably about 8 more banks I don't have loaded that are available..The variety of sounds available are truly mind-boggling & really lay out this synth's potentials from bread & butter to off the hook insanity.



-end butt-licking pagan idolotary calf worshiping.-

sickles,

is a montage, or have you managed to load the sounds as bank already, I think Ben will do an update to make it possible.

anyway, this shows really what the synth is good for: almost every thing,
but I prefer it for the incredible pads.

rsmus7 wrote:

sickles, is a montage, or have you managed to load the sounds as bank already, I think Ben will do an update to make it possible.

ya lost me there..That's not a montage, that's the factory folder's file structure in the drop down menu the way I have the folders set up.

Mine is the same, rsmus7

I wholeheartedly agree with Sickle, though. The sheer weight of quality presets for this synth is outstanding

sickle666 wrote:

rsmus7 wrote: sickles, is a montage, or have you managed to load the sounds as bank already, I think Ben will do an update to make it possible. ya lost me there..That's not a montage, that's the factory folder's file structure in the drop down menu the way I have the folders set up.

how the hell can I do it? No idea here

rsmus7 wrote:

sickle666 wrote: rsmus7 wrote: sickles, is a montage, or have you managed to load the sounds as bank already, I think Ben will do an update to make it possible. ya lost me there..That's not a montage, that's the factory folder's file structure in the drop down menu the way I have the folders set up. how the hell can I do it? No idea here

just (left-)click the menu (from where it pulls down)

...but there are four banks which aren't on the Cameleon-site:

Kered, Likwid, Midiworks and Rsmus himself...

From where have you got them?

these banks are on the cameleon site, these are the last comp winner banks.

and when I try to open my menue goes only till voices

rsmus7 wrote:

how the hell can I do it? No idea here

How the hell do you do what? I totally don't understand your question..

If you're refering to the file structure, this is what I did:

Download the extra banks you're intersted in, whatever..

Unzip the file.

Go into it & there's almost always one more subfolder, with the presets grouped into sub-folders within that one.

I cut the first sub-folder & paste it into the root of the Factory folder.

the 'X's are desgination of non-factory banks that I think McLilith changed at the camel site.

jens wrote:

...but there are four banks which aren't on the Cameleon-site: Kered, Likwid, Midiworks and Rsmus himself... From where have you got them?

Those are from the patcharena.com competition

edited

sickle666 wrote:

rsmus7 wrote: how the hell can I do it? No idea here Go into it & there's almost always one more subfolder, with the presets grouped into sub-folders within that one. I cut the first sub-folder & paste it into the root of the Factory folder.

ok that clarifies it for me stupid lil boy

rsmus7 wrote:

ok that clarifies it for me stupid lil boy

what's that about?

rsmus7 wrote:

these banks are on the cameleon site, these are the last comp winner banks. and when I try to open my menue goes only till voices

there's onyl one bank of 108presets... - I already have this bank

sickle666 wrote:

rsmus7 wrote: ok that clarifies it for me stupid lil boy what's that about?

Not you

I´m the stupid boy

i have some extra banks but they dont load well, i see them in the menu, but the indivdual patches dont come up

check this out:



That's the folder structure I'm using. I have access through the Cameleon GUI to every preset in the folder.

You have 2 built in file browsers in Cameleon:

The one to the left is the bank browser, the one to the right is for patches.

It's kinda like Aurturia's file browser a little. I actually like it alot, as I have a choice of micro & macro browsing right there from the instrument window.

As long as you adhere to a 2 folder deep structure from the instruments root, you can re-arrange these presets however you wanna.

edit: sorry about the cursor missing in the pic; it's hovering over the factory instruments folder.

my left & right was reversed

i just have one folder with like a thousand voices in it im supposed to be sorting ou some of my own from it but cant remember which ones are mine

vurt wrote:

i just have one folder with like a thousand voices in it im supposed to be sorting ou some of my own from it but cant remember which ones are mine

I name all my patches with SM at the end for my real name
that makes it easy to find em

Two things here...

The patcharena banks are terrific! Well done.

I'd also like to toss in praise for McLilith's Morph Maker (I think it's called).

It's great that so many have spent this amount of time and talent on this product. Thanks to all.

Tom

Timbre wrote:

i have some extra banks but they dont load well, i see them in the menu, but the indivdual patches dont come up

see my last post above.

The browser menu to the left is for banks. What it's really reading is the FOLDER NAME of any folder in the FACTORY INSTRUMENT folder.

Inside these folders, you must place your presets if you want them to be scanned & recognized by the right side file browser. It doesn't scan deeper than one sub-folder below the factory instrument folder!!

rsmus7 wrote:

vurt wrote: i just have one folder with like a thousand voices in it im supposed to be sorting ou some of my own from it but cant remember which ones are mine I name all my patches with SM at the end for my real name that makes it easy to find em

im not that smart see whos the stupid lil boy now

One more shot:



As you can see, cameleon will display the folder name of whatever you place in the factory instrument folder. It reads them in alphabetical or numerical order, hence the abc's at the begining of the folder names.

Inside these folders is where you place your presets, which can then be accessed via the drop down menu to the right of the one I'm using here.

I really hope that explains it for you guys

Btw, that's a sneak preview of my soon-to-be-released Itchy Arse Collection of new & exciting sounds for Cameleon 5000

still doesn't explain where the extra patch arena banks are

still doesn't explain why your folder nonetheless is smaller than mine (mine is 294mb while yours is only 252mb)

oh i know how to do it,i just prefer to work that way,i dont search for say a bass sound or what have you so to me it doesnt matter about subfolders n such.
just bang em all together then when im searching for A sound im not bogged down with specifics

just how the little vurtsters mind works i guess

jens wrote:

still doesn't explain where the extra patch arena banks are still doesn't explain why your folder nonetheless is smaller than mine (mine is 294mb while yours is only 252mb)

those competition banks are here at the Cameleon community page

I don't know about the folder sizes..I'm not done installing the available presets either, so

sickle666 wrote:

jens wrote: still doesn't explain where the extra patch arena banks are still doesn't explain why your folder nonetheless is smaller than mine (mine is 294mb while yours is only 252mb) those competition banks are here at the Cameleon community page I don't know about the folder sizes..I'm not done installing the available presets either, so

I've packed them all together in one big folder I've created and named by myself (PA)

To do the creators justice I deleted this folder now and installed them again

Thanks, Sickle

jens wrote:

I've packed them all together in one big folder I've created and named by myself (PA)

Is it just me, or are Germans in general a buncha whacko's?




















before that gets shoved back up my ass, I'm more German than anything, so blow me..

bit whacko yes but very polite.
im not german tho

what's 'whacko'?

whacko=

jens wrote:

what's 'whacko'?

whacko = nutter = someone who 'lost thier bucket' = a sweet pickle.

That help?

You never heard the term Whacko Jack-O?

he looks different there?




















ah i know he used to be black

anyone notice that as he got whiter his music became shit?does this indeed mean that white people are shit at music?

sickle666 wrote:

That help?

no, not really.

I suppose you mean something like a lunatic?

In a completely harmless & mild kind of way, yes

funny description nonetheless .b.t.w.

sickle666 wrote:

jens wrote: sickle666 wrote: That help? no, not really. I suppose you mean something like a lunatic? In a completely harmless & mild kind of way, yes

o.k. - something like a misfit then?

a good one, though

o.k., I see

sort of like a "geruhftenspitzel"

scuzzphut wrote:

sort of like a "geruhftenspitzel"

Ooh just saw this thread.

thanks for the comments sickle et al, it's true there are now a boatload of presets for Cameleon

But you'll soon have another set from me if I ever get the time to finish them I think you'll find my style different once again from Biomechanoid, Tim C's and everyone else's

Cheers

Jim

Jim [Camel Audio] wrote:

Ooh just saw this thread. thanks for the comments sickle et al, it's true there are now a boatload of presets for Cameleon But you'll soon have another set from me if I ever get the time to finish them I think you'll find my style different once again from Biomechanoid, Tim C's and everyone else's Cheers Jim

Bring it, chump

sickle666 wrote:

One more shot:

sickle, are those some new presets you're working on??



lates

t-willy

SaviorNeeded wrote:

Two things here... The patcharena banks are terrific! Well done. I'd also like to toss in praise for McLilith's Morph Maker (I think it's called).

Yes, MorphMaker is the name. I'm glad you like it. I've been busy working on the next version. If you liked the first one, I think the sequel will definitely impress you. It's already much improved over the original, and has several new features. I just need to finalize a few features, and update the help and documentation. (I also find myself fighting off the urge to keep adding more features, else I'll never finish it. Besides, I have to save something new for the third version.)

When it's ready, an announcement will be made on K-v-R's Camel Audio forum.

I've also been impressed with the official Cameleon preset collection. I wrote some of them myself, so I know the amount of effort that can go into creating a good bank of presets. Ben has people with very good personal taste creating those presets, and several different styles are being represented in the collection. That's one of the aspects of the collection that I appreciate most, its vast range of styles.


take care,
McLilith

And hopefully we'll be hearing some more of your superb patches McLilith ???

Jim

Jim [Camel Audio] wrote:

And hopefully we'll be hearing some more of your superb patches McLilith ???

Absolutely. I just need to wrap up the latest version of MorphMaker before I start working on a collection of instrument presets. Of course, I'll soon have a collection of morph presets ready.


take care,
McLilith

Hi,

Really glad to hear you're all enjoying your Cameleons

Hope the confusion about how to place the banks in such a way as to have them listed neatly has been cleared up. Check the Cameleon FAQ at
http://www.camelaudio.com/support.php
if you're still not clear. If you have any suggestions on improving the FAQ, I'm all ears.

Glad also to hear that you're liking the new bonus banks - I must say I've been really impressed with what people have created, including Tim C and Biomechanoid, McLilith, Jim and everyone else, including those who entered the comp. Its also cool that I keep hearing stuff that I didn't previously realise Cameleon could do. I've put some time into making the banks expand and improve, and cover as many styles as possible, and I'm glad you guys are enjoying the results.

Sorry if I've been a bit quiet recently - I'm away in Canada (Victoria) at my bros wedding. All went well - I managed to remember the rings, and people laughed at my best man speech in the right places

Ben

jens wrote:

what's 'whacko'?

Batman Forever wrote:

CHASE My opinion. This letter writer is a total wacko. BRUCE Wacko? That a technical term? CHASE Patient apparently suffers from acute obsessional syndrome with potential homicidal styles. Work better for you? BRUCE So what you're saying, this guy's a total wacko, right? CHASE (a slight smile) Exactly.

Doug

Hi,

Really glad to hear you're all enjoying your Cameleons

Hope the confusion about how to place the banks in such a way as to have them listed neatly has been cleared up. Check the Cameleon FAQ at
http://www.camelaudio.com/support.php
if you're still not clear. If you have any suggestions on improving the FAQ, I'm all ears.

Glad also to hear that you're liking the new bonus banks - I must say I've been really impressed with what people have created, including Tim C and Biomechanoid, McLilith, Jim and everyone else, including those who entered the comp. Its also cool that I keep hearing stuff that I didn't previously realise Cameleon could do. I've put some time into making the banks expand and improve, and cover as many styles as possible, and I'm glad you guys are enjoying the results.

Sorry if I've been a bit quiet recently - I'm away in Canada (Victoria) at my bros wedding. All went well - I managed to remember the rings, and people laughed at my best man speech in the right places

Ben

Eeerm, please excuse my ignorance, but I can not find the new extra banks at the website, nor did I get a notification or something. Are they for the "group buy" users only?

Hi dr wackler,

Quote:

Eeerm, please excuse my ignorance, but I can not find the new extra banks at the website, nor did I get a notification or something. Are they for the "group buy" users only?

These are for all registered users. I haven't emailed everyone yet, because there's a little bit more to come Head over to http://www.camelaudio.com/community.php

Then download the biomechaniks, TC Universe and patch arena winners banks. You'll need the password and username you used to download the last update. (If you purchased since v1.302, the details are contained in the same email as your serial number).

Thanks
Ben

Ben [Camel Audio] wrote:

These are for all registered users. I haven't emailed everyone yet, because there's a little bit more to come Head over to http://www.camelaudio.com/community.php Then download the biomechaniks, TC Universe and patch arena winners banks. You'll need the password and username you used to download the last update. (If you purchased since v1.302, the details are contained in the same email as your serial number).

Hi Sir Nightworker!
Thanks for your kind explanation. I guess I was searching for something called "the group buy extra banks" and didn't realize they are one of those on the community page. Great patches in there!

Ben, I think the current preset selection method is spot-on, & I wouldn't change any aspect of it. Considering the amount of presets we're talking about here, having the macro & micro is a very elegant solution.

I haven't looked into the documentation or anything, but maybe the explanation didn't come across or something; I don't know, as it was obvious to me from the begining how easy it was to use. It reminds me of the patch system Arturia uses in the moog synths, but better.

The only thing I would change about that system is adding more presets to the atomic pile you have built up..

more more more

sickle666 wrote:

more more more

Say no more, say no more,
New presets are on the way.
Quoth McLilith, "Many more."

vurt wrote:

anyone notice that as he got whiter his music became shit?does this indeed mean that white people are shit at music?

exactly why I stopped taking showers. if you can't beat 'em...

I've been lurking, because I've had the same confusion... and I've Been healed!!!!!

All those lovely banks now come up in cameleon!

Thanks!