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AuthorTopic: New release: MrRay VST Electric Piano Version 2
ZioKiller
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:17
You can find it at:
http://www.soundfonts.it/vst

I'm waiting for your feedback Smile
MrMenace
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:24
ZioKiller wrote:
You can find it at:
http://www.soundfonts.it/vst

I'm waiting for your feedback Smile



When you click on the download link, it takes you back to the link you have posted. Looks like you need to correct the download link.




Regards,


Dennis
topaz
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:26
no it's working fine, just downloaded it.

great work Zio Wink

MrMenace wrote:

When you click on the download link, it takes you back to the link you have posted. Looks like you need to correct the download link.




Regards,


Dennis
MrMenace
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:31
I checked the HTML source in Opera and IE and here is what I see:

<h1>MrRay VST Electric Piano - Version 2</h1>
<img src="img/MrRay2.jpg" border=0>

<br><br>
[b}<a href="http://www.soundfonts.it/vst/">Click Here To Download</a>[/b]
<br><br>
Download Demo Songs <br>(mp3 format, 192Kb/s, 44.1KHz, stereo)
<br>
<a href="MrRay2_Demo1.mp3">Demo #1 - Rhodes Mark II</a><br>
<a href="MrRay2_Demo2.mp3">Demo #2 - Rhodes Mark I</a><br>
<a href="MrRay2_Demo3.mp3">Demo #3 - Wurlitzer Piano</a><br>
<br>

So, If I click here to download, I end up back on the main page.

Go figure.

Dennis
griels
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:31
Yeah, the 'Download Mr Ray' applies to the links below and not the hotlinked picture above (which simply describes the plugin in more detail).

Excellent work! Very Happy
MrMenace
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:33
Boy, do I feel stooopid!




Nevermind <G>




Dennis
griels
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:36
MrMenace wrote:
Boy, do I feel stooopid!




Nevermind <G>




Dennis


Nah, it's a bit confusing, you're not the first to have been thrown off course Wink

Hopefully Zio will make this clearer.
Meffy
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:48
Downloaded okay -- I'll play with this tonight.

Zio, your work is top quality. When proving to people that skilled SE users can create really good synths, Mr. Ray and ORGANized trio are among the first plug-ins I mention. Great sound, beauuuutiful graphics.

I own NI's B4 organ, and think trio sounds nearly as nice (for free). In fact, I think your program might be more purely authentic in a few small details. Can't afford to buy Lounge Lizard, but Mr. Ray is at least nine-tenths as good.

Excellent stuff -- mille grazie!

Meffy
Glooper
Posted: 9th September 2004 05:50
Cool Cool... I'll be downloading this tonight! ...

Ben
xoxos
Posted: 9th September 2004 09:43
do the world a favour and link your music/demo file up on that page! hearing you play could be the best thing that happens to them all month.
griels
Posted: 9th September 2004 09:45
xoxos wrote:
do the world a favour and link your music/demo file up on that page! hearing you play could be the best thing that happens to them all month.


Yes, he's an excellent player Cool
Illusionist
Posted: 9th September 2004 11:20
WOW, thanks! Cool I thought this wouldn't be updated anymore, but what a nice surprise.. Very Happy

But please check the presets again. Some sound horrible, like welcome to Mr. Ray, Chick Gig and Wurly. It seems it has something to do with Pickup type II. If it's meant to sound like that, I excuse.. Razz

I like the new gui, it's better than the one on v1..

But i have to say also that I don't find the sound better in V2, it's just different. I can't seem to get the exact sound like the first patch on v1.

Much thanks for sharing (!) this, and put out such wonderfull and exact emulation instruments!
vinovatus
Posted: 9th September 2004 12:18
hi
great work
sounds excellent

but in flstudio after few seconds
it starts to sound fuzzy
i thought it`s my souncard and asio driver but it`s not
here is a sample random melody
http://www.geocities.com/vinovatus/fuzz.mp3

maybe it`s a bug and you should check it
or maybe it`s my pc after all

regards
ZioKiller
Posted: 9th September 2004 12:46
vinovatus wrote:
hi
but in flstudio after few seconds
it starts to sound fuzzy


I never had such a problem.. I've tested it in cubase sx and v-stack on three different audio cards and everything works fine for me...

Could you try it in a different host?

-------------------------------------
Thank you all, guys! Smile
My satisfaction is to know that you appreciate the effort I had in making these instruments.
Anyway I had to admit my fault: the demo mp3s are not played by me! I'd like to play piano like that but I just don't :/

-------------------------------------
What's wrong with the presets?

Guido.
housechimp
Posted: 9th September 2004 13:31
The distorted sounds may be caused by the pickup. When changing pickups the sound might go from good to bad and back without any logical pattern.

Nevertheless great sound. Only the release sound doesn't seem to fit the overall character of the plugin (at least to my ears) but I'm no expert on the rhodes sound.

Kep up the great work! Smile
xoxos
Posted: 9th September 2004 13:41
ZioKiller wrote:
not played by me! I'd like to play piano like that but I just don't :/


nonsense. try the big bottle of cough syrup next time Smile
vinovatus
Posted: 9th September 2004 14:19
hi
i tested it in flstudio and orion platinum
(i have the demos of both)
same problem

and finaly tested in jeskola`s buzz with
polak vsti adapter
no problems

strange

=)

maybe my machine is too weak to handle it
any system reqs?

regards
mtyas
Posted: 9th September 2004 14:30
This really sounds amazing, I loved v1 and this one is even better.
You're really doing some great work, just need a clavinet now Smile

Thanks for such a great instrument
ZioKiller
Posted: 9th September 2004 14:49
mtyas wrote:
just need a clavinet now Smile


it's on my to-do-list Smile
jamesb
Posted: 9th September 2004 15:16
ZioKiller wrote:
mtyas wrote:
just need a clavinet now Smile


it's on my to-do-list Smile


Woo hoo!
Andywanders
Posted: 9th September 2004 17:39
Has it been tested in Logic..?

The last one didn't work in Logic - just a horrible, loud buzzing noise.

Sad

Has it been fixed..?

Question
databass
Posted: 9th September 2004 17:51
mtyas wrote:

You're really doing some great work, just need a clavinet now Smile


Yes Shit! yes Surprised yesss Love

please We're not worthy.... please hyper please Drunk
jamesb
Posted: 9th September 2004 18:02
Wow, the markII demo sounds awesome. I'll be trying this out asap.
Jafo
Posted: 9th September 2004 18:20
what presets, if any, were used on the demos? i can't seem to get those groovy sounds. i mean it can't just be my lame-ass key skills... Embarassed

anyway, this little vsti rules. thanks!
Funkybot
Posted: 9th September 2004 18:23
I can't seem to get any of these synths to work properly in Sonar via the Cakewalk VSTadapter. There's always a crazy, constant crackling sound. Happens a lot in Mr. Ray version 2, and happened to a lesser extent in version 1, and also happens in the organ. At least with Mr. Ray 1 and the organ I could at least make out the sound of the synth as the noise seemed to only be in the attack, with Mr. Ray version 2 it's almost all static with just a tiny bit of sound coming through. CPU usage isn't high at all, and other synths play fine in the same projects I've tried these on. If it helps the noise sounds like a crusher/sampling rate lowering type of effect. Not sure how much can be done about this as it's a SE synth and may just be in the modules used or the compiling to VSTi or something. Any other Sonar users able to get these working?
Andywanders
Posted: 9th September 2004 18:30
andywanders wrote:
Has it been tested in Logic..?

The last one didn't work in Logic - just a horrible, loud buzzing noise.

Sad

Has it been fixed..?

Question


Oops... I just read the documentation... Embarassed

Quote:
At last, now it works in Emagic Logic too.


Thanks for the fix.

I'm really looking forward to trying this out tonight.

Smile
rogerperrin
Posted: 9th September 2004 22:21
Hello there ZioKiller. Your site has me puzzled royally. I've tried to download the zip of mrray 4 times and I keep getting timed-out or something at 2 min 40 sec. The file shows to be a bad zip then. I tried the exe version with the same result. Then I tried the moogfilter, again the same result. So none of the downloads work for me. I'm pretty sure it is a thing with your server, and not my isp, as I have had excellent relults with larger downloads tonight. HELP Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed I'd really like to try MrRayII. I'll try again tomorrow morning. Rolling Eyes

RogerPerrin
Illusionist
Posted: 9th September 2004 23:52
databass wrote:
mtyas wrote:

You're really doing some great work, just need a clavinet now Smile


Yes Shit! yes Surprised yesss Love

please We're not worthy.... please hyper please Drunk


Double that! That would be great, given the quality of your emu's Cool

About the presets: It's the pickup type that seems to cause weird noise. It sounds like the pitch to cv is not connected so you get random sounds when you play a note. But most presets sound fine.. I''m using Orion Platinum..

Thanks!
Jesus123
Posted: 10th September 2004 00:13
I know I'm new, so maybe I'm having a misconception about these VSTs...are they supposed to sound...good? I just bought Tracktion and have been using various VST plugins for MIDI like 4front and this "mrRay," but the quality of the sounds I'm getting suck...am I missing something?
griels
Posted: 10th September 2004 01:06
Jesus123 wrote:
I know I'm new, so maybe I'm having a misconception about these VSTs...are they supposed to sound...good? I just bought Tracktion and have been using various VST plugins for MIDI like 4front and this "mrRay," but the quality of the sounds I'm getting suck...am I missing something?


Did you listen to the demos? Shit!

Show me a better epiano emulation (not including huge multisamples)!

OK, maybe Scarbee RSP73 sounds more authentic, but it's only one kind of sound, and it's huge, and not cheap. Listen to the demos here:

http://www.scarbee.com

I believe some of them were performed using Halion or Kontakt VSTs. Cool
Illusionist
Posted: 10th September 2004 01:08
Yes, listen to the demosong griels linked to on the previous page. If you think thats sounds sucky, I advise you to buy a real Fender Rhodes..
Nolwenn
Posted: 10th September 2004 02:54
Sounds really good, i find it different from v1, and better

Thank you for this funky VST
WillieJenkins
Posted: 10th September 2004 07:16
jesus123,

next time try using speakers from your DAW instead of tin cans and string, that will improve your vst sound quality HiHi just joking mate or am i....

bravo, mr ray is truly quite an achievement, you just saved me some money on a lounge lizard crossgrade Very Happy
Meffy
Posted: 10th September 2004 07:35
Jesus123 wrote:
I know I'm new, so maybe I'm having a misconception about these VSTs...are they supposed to sound...good? I just bought Tracktion and have been using various VST plugins for MIDI like 4front and this "mrRay," but the quality of the sounds I'm getting suck...am I missing something?


If you're making your own presets, this could be it: not all settings of the knobs on Mr. Ray (or similar synths) will produce pleasant sounds. It's a physical model, and easily put into a state where it sounds bad. Starting with the presets and tweaking carefully -- a little at a time, nothing dramatic -- can yield very nice results.

Meffy
odo
Posted: 10th September 2004 07:48
i tried it and it`s gOOd Smile

Odo.
tinman
Posted: 10th September 2004 08:14
This MrRay is a stunning VSTi. I have a hole in my heart, filled only by a good EP sound, and today I am saved.

HALLAYLOOYAH! THANK YUUW JAAAAAYZUZ! I mean Zkiller.

Really, this is the best free vst I've heard in a long time. and I will donate.
waiting man
Posted: 10th September 2004 08:52
judging from the quality of the instruments I suppose your serious about the clavinet, Guido.








I fuckin' love you.
ZioKiller
Posted: 10th September 2004 09:14
tinman wrote:
Really, this is the best free vst I've heard in a long time. and I will donate.


Thankyou tinman! This was my first donation Smile

---
Yes, I'm working on a clavinet model atm... you'll be adviced as soon as I get something good. Wink
PeterL
Posted: 10th September 2004 09:27
Damn good VSTis for free!! Shocked
Normally I don't comment on such things.
Maybe I will donate next month when I get my wage.
Thanks very much.
griels
Posted: 10th September 2004 09:40
ZioKiller wrote:
tinman wrote:
Really, this is the best free vst I've heard in a long time. and I will donate.


Thankyou tinman! This was my first donation Smile



Shit! Unbelievable..

Come on everybody, chip in a few dollars to support this guy! I'll put something in myself tonight.
Meffy
Posted: 10th September 2004 09:43
Heh, many minds with a single thought. Just PM-ed Zio. Next month's pay has a little chunk earmarked for him, and another for Jeff McClintock. Long overdue. I don't use SynthEdit -- not directly. But I benefit from his work. First week of October will be the time to set that right. Smile

Meffy
PeterL
Posted: 10th September 2004 09:47
griels wrote:
ZioKiller wrote:
tinman wrote:
Really, this is the best free vst I've heard in a long time. and I will donate.


Thankyou tinman! This was my first donation Smile



Shit! Unbelievable..

Come on everybody, chip in a few dollars to support this guy! I'll put something in myself tonight.

Just done. Couldn't resist Very Happy
Greets to Italy
griels
Posted: 10th September 2004 09:48
PeterL wrote:

Just done. Couldn't resist Very Happy


Ditto. Very Happy
rogerperrin
Posted: 10th September 2004 10:10
What's the deal with the soundfonts server? It still won't let me complete a download. At 2:30 (min/sec) it stops downloading and my computer message reads: download complete. but the zip file shows to be incomplete, corrupted, etc., and it will not unzip. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Is the soundfonts site for broadband internet users only?

RogerPerrin
juanito
Posted: 10th September 2004 10:47
Mr. Ray is PHAT! Just incredible but if you really want to set it off, Run Mr. Ray though PSP Nitro and you will be STRAIGHT TRIPPIN! Surprised Shit! Shocked


This thing is plain stupid sick! Very Happy


Great Job Cool

- Juanito
Jesus123
Posted: 10th September 2004 12:10
Ok...i know what you're saying, and all the demos i hear before i actually use the VST are great, but any time i simply apply them to my tracktion tracks they sound terrible. is there some type of interface that you should download first to adapt these VSTs to my Tracktion? is there some type of complementary software that should always be used with this? I simply cannot get a good sound and its fuckin' with my head!!!
BeatMax
Posted: 10th September 2004 12:13
I already loved the old version. This one is even better. I love its versatility and its sound it is a great free plugin Wink

Keep up the great work!

BMX
maximilians1
Posted: 10th September 2004 12:27
Jesus123 wrote:
Ok...i know what you're saying, and all the demos i hear before i actually use the VST are great, but any time i simply apply them to my tracktion tracks they sound terrible. is there some type of interface that you should download first to adapt these VSTs to my Tracktion? is there some type of complementary software that should always be used with this? I simply cannot get a good sound and its fuckin' with my head!!!


Have you tried Mr.Ray with a vst host like http://www.kvr-vst.com/get/1015.html minihost, and just played around with it with your midi keyboard.? Doing that you can get clear indication of what your pluggins are capable of before your start to sequence them.
speccyteccy
Posted: 10th September 2004 14:48
I'm getting a few crackles in FLStudio with high polyphony but not in the Chainer demo.
ZioKiller
Posted: 10th September 2004 15:13
I don't know why many people using FLstudio are having problems with this plugin. Maybe the problem is with the current version of SynthEdit I've use to compile it.
I don't have FLstudio then I can't test it by myself.
I can test my plugins with CubaseSX and VST-Host only and everything is ok.

Anyway, I wish to say thankyou to those guys who have donated some bucks Smile your support is greatly appreciated!

Guido.
Andywanders
Posted: 11th September 2004 00:22
andywanders wrote:
andywanders wrote:
Has it been tested in Logic..?

The last one didn't work in Logic - just a horrible, loud buzzing noise.

Sad

Has it been fixed..?

Question


Oops... I just read the documentation... Embarassed

Quote:
At last, now it works in Emagic Logic too.


Thanks for the fix.

I'm really looking forward to trying this out tonight.

Smile


Nope...!

Sorry, but it still doesn't work in Logic. Sad

It just produces seemingly random notes that sound like upper partials. Not musical at all, and definitely nothing like an electric piano.

It doesn't have the CPU spike and the horrible buxxing noise of the previous version though.

BTW, I tried it in Chainer (stand alone) and it really does sound sweet. Shame though, I'd love to use it in Logic.
ZioKiller
Posted: 11th September 2004 01:03
Shit! I gave a beta to a friend to let him test it in Logic and he said everything was ok... now.. I dunno....

sorry..
Sascha Franck
Posted: 11th September 2004 01:30
This version is working fine for me in Logic (5.5.1), very fine even. Quite a CPU intensive thing, but well...
papatomany
Posted: 11th September 2004 08:29
Using Cakewalk Home Studio and their VST-Adapter.
Sound's very good...
CPU hit is minor (rarely over 20%), usually more like 12%.
There are a few presets that give me distortion at high polyphony (well, relatively high Rolling Eyes ) in the higher registers, but that's most likely either my system (which walks with a limp) or the VST-Adapter (which hops on one leg).
However, I can't change pickup "type" (slider just doesn't move), and I don't seem to be able to make a preset from scratch. The empty preset doesn't respond to any adjustments. (Once again, I understand that this could just be a clash with the VST-Adapter, which I've had LOTS o' trouble with.)
mistertoast
Posted: 11th September 2004 09:33
Funny. Sometimes it's great, sometimes crackly and buzzy as hell. But when it's great, it's great.

Unfortunately, seems to have more problems being buzzy and crackly for me inside Chainer.
xoxos
Posted: 11th September 2004 10:34
you using waveshapers? think jeff said there was somethnig hppenng between them and FL..

not a classic keyboardist by any means, but got round to playing this and love the sound..
Sascha Franck
Posted: 11th September 2004 10:54
Btw, even if this is using up a LOT of CPU power (at least compared to the EVP88), it's got to be one of the freaking best freebies ever in case you need convincing electric piano sounds!

Thanks for this!
TotcProductions
Posted: 11th September 2004 10:57
Hey man....nice vsti....one thing though, there is a clicking....no, almost a tine sound whenever i let go of a note, that sounds pretty strange....is it supposed to do that?

Peace!
Sascha Franck
Posted: 11th September 2004 11:06
TotcProductions wrote:
Hey man....nice vsti....one thing though, there is a clicking....no, almost a tine sound whenever i let go of a note, that sounds pretty strange....is it supposed to do that?


This is what some Rhodes do as well. There's a parameter for it on Mr.Ray (Mallets > Release). Turn it down and there you go.
TotcProductions
Posted: 11th September 2004 11:32
Sascha Franck wrote:
TotcProductions wrote:
Hey man....nice vsti....one thing though, there is a clicking....no, almost a tine sound whenever i let go of a note, that sounds pretty strange....is it supposed to do that?


This is what some Rhodes do as well. There's a parameter for it on Mr.Ray (Mallets > Release). Turn it down and there you go.


Aaah, beautiful....sorry dude....that's what i get for not checking the controls first. Embarassed
ZioKiller
Posted: 11th September 2004 11:34
xoxos wrote:
you using waveshapers? think jeff said there was somethnig hppenng between them and FL..


Yes, i'm using three waveshapers for the pickups emulation. I did a module too for the same purpose but it sucked nearly the 17% of cpu compared to 0,3% of a SE's waveshaper2... so I went for it.

Now i'm attempting to code a wavetable-based waveshaper like Jeff's one.. maybe in the next release Smile
rogerperrin
Posted: 11th September 2004 19:45
Wow, what a beauty this one is. MrRay will keep you juiced-up for hours. Very Happy And it'll put a huge smile back on your face, ala Ray Charles.

I still find it amazing - after tinkering with VSTi's for barely over a year - that something so gorgeous and true to the real instruments' sound is actually possible on my slow old computer.

Sublime, that's an appropriate word. Bliss-inducing maybe. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Thanks, Ziokiller, it finally did complete my download.

RogerPerrin
brok landers
Posted: 11th September 2004 22:38
did someone get it to work on logic 5.5.1 pc ?
mine is allways crashing when loading it ... Confused

reg,
Sascha Franck
Posted: 11th September 2004 22:46
brok landers wrote:
did someone get it to work on logic 5.5.1 pc ?
mine is allways crashing when loading it ... Confused


Allready said so, it's working fine for me (at least on one stationary PC, haven't tried on the laptop yet).
ouroboros
Posted: 11th September 2004 22:59
Works intermittantly for me in FL Studio 4.52 - I find running through the presets messes things up, as if the effects weren't turning off (I don't know that is what is actually happening). However, if after cycling through the presets forwards, I cycle through backwards, they work corectly I believe.

Sounds sweet!
Andywanders
Posted: 12th September 2004 02:53
Tried again with Logic 5.5 and it still doesn't work. Just weird noises - as described before.

Sad

OS WIN 98SE
Sascha Franck
Posted: 12th September 2004 03:46
andywanders wrote:

OS WIN 98SE


Hm - could it have something to do with that?
Back under 98 I experienced occasional problems when running certain SE creations under Logic.
Has become way less under XP.
damstraversaz
Posted: 12th September 2004 23:45
great job!
congratulations Very Happy Very Happy
keys
Posted: 13th September 2004 00:55
I have tested Mr. Ray on my laptop (centrino) with minihost. The sound is very good, the cpu power is o.k. What a beautiful GUI.

Thanks for creating such a nice instrument!

Smile
egbert
Posted: 13th September 2004 03:14
Mr Ray works fine here on Logic 5.5.1 Plat/WinXP so Win98 might be the culprit.

What a classy EP emulation - just add a dash of PSP Nitro and Vintage Warmer for EP heaven.
e-phonic
Posted: 27th September 2004 07:57
GREAT!... sounds pretty damn nice from the mp3 demo's on your site.
I'm gonna give it a try tonight!

Cheers,
PJ
Stupid American Pig
Posted: 27th September 2004 08:11
I must say that this is prolly one of the best emulations I have heard regardless of price. I have both a real Rhodes MkI and Wurly EP-200, and I think the rhodes sound is about 98% spot on. The wurly, however, is not quite as good(though still very useful in its own right)as the "bite" is not quite right and it sounds alittle bit thin.

However Ido not want to take anything away from this brilliant acheivement- as I now use this for all my EP duties for composing and break out the Rhodes and Wurly when I want to do final tracking.
databass
Posted: 9th January 2005 10:04
ZioKiller wrote:

Yes, I'm working on a clavinet model atm... you'll be adviced as soon as I get something good. Wink


hi Zio! Cool

some good news about your clavinet vsti?
i would love to try any beta you have done yet
please .. please .. please Love

keep up the the fantastic work!

peace
realmarco
Posted: 9th January 2005 18:49
S_A_P wrote:
I must say that this is prolly one of the best emulations I have heard regardless of price. I have both a real Rhodes MkI and Wurly EP-200, and I think the rhodes sound is about 98% spot on. The wurly, however, is not quite as good(though still very useful in its own right)as the "bite" is not quite right and it sounds alittle bit thin.

.


I was wondering have you had the chance to check out AAS`Loundge-Lizard, how does it fair in terms of your epiano , Im very interested in this but alas I have no pc and no access to an ep
maximilians1
Posted: 9th January 2005 19:04
If I remeber correctly, Ziokiller did a blind listening test of evp73,Lounge lizard and mr Ray, and Mr Ray sounded in the same class to me, you might also wnat to search for the free rhodes soundfont that was just released here lately in another thread,...its deadly
declassified
Posted: 9th January 2005 23:54
I downloaded the Mr.Ray Lite version and it sounded a bit thin and toyish compared to the big version.

Is that just because of Mr.Ray's superior factory presets or the lack of an effect section on the lite version?
Do they have the same modelling engine?

I'm asking because I like the concept of the lite version and I'd like to add effects myself.
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