On my new Athlon XP 3200+

it doesn't happen on my mac

WinXP Home SP1
1 gig ram
Cubase SX2.2

cpu usage starts to creep up after some minutes till it's at like 70% and I have to quit Cubase! Is anyone else experiencing this? it doesn't seem to be a denormal problem. makes it currently unusable

Hi Theo

I've just emailed you an update that should sort it out.


Dave
www.gmediamusic.com

Is there a planned official update to the M-Tron?

I've also seen the CPU usage creep happen in Project 5.

And what's the latest on the Megatron?

Dave Spiers wrote:

Hi Theo I've just emailed you an update that should sort it out. Dave www.gmediamusic.com

Thanks!

I had the exact same problem and GMedia sent me the update. The Update took care of the CPU problem. My CPU now stays at a steady 10-20%.

However, now I'm getting error messages ("A serious error has occurred...") everytime I load certain patches. It is only 15 specific patches, but I get the error 100% of the time I load these patches. Other patches load fine.

I also can no longer select patches from Cubase's patch list (patch field is blank). I can only change patches from within the M-tron instrument screen itself. I've written to GMedia and have been waiting a couple of days for a reply. In the meantime, can anyone help?

Has anyone experienced this? Should I uninstall and reinstall M-Tron? If so, what are the exact steps? Should I replace the 15 problem patches with fresh ones from the orignal Tape Bank CDs? Would this help? How can I get my Cubase patch lists back for M-Tron? Any ideas?

Thanks,
Babz

I also got this update some months ago because of having the same CPU problem. But it didn´t work for me, only getting an error message of missing library files or something similiar. I reported this to Dave Spiers, but heard then nothing more from him.

Here is the initial thread started by me half a year ago (should have been enough time to fix this bug)
http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=42836

Babz wrote:

I also can no longer select patches from Cubase's patch list (patch field is blank). I can only change patches from within the M-tron instrument screen itself. How can I get my Cubase patch lists back for M-Tron?

Babz, I cannot remember that a patch list was ever available in my hosts (but I don´t have Cubase), for whatever M-Tron version, because I think that M-Tron doesn´t transmit the patch list to the host. Also, as far as I know, M-Tron doesn´t react on program change messages.

But maybe anybody else will correct me?

the beta update works fine here..

have you got your mtron sounds in the same folder, or a shortcut folder named "m-tron" leading to the sounds?

Yes, all of my M-Tron patch files are in a single folder called "M-Tron." I have all 4 tape banks. Most work fine, but 15 specific ones give the error message when I call them up. They don't appear to be from any one tape bank/CD, etc.. Here is the list:

Problem M-Tron files

Bass Acc.
Trmbns + Trmpts
Eng. Accordian
ARP_Trombone
Orchestra_Moog
Tripled8_Choir
M300_Solo_Viol
Moog_Bass_Bells
M300_Strings
MkII_Violins
AccB_Viols_Brs
MkII_Trombone
MkII_Tenor_Sax
Cello+Strings
MF Choir
[This last one (MF Choir) has its own unique error message: "M-Tron Error Couldn't open bank requested! Has it been deleted from disk?" And no it has NOT been deleted and is still in the same location on my HD where it has always been.]

Do these specific patches work for you? What version of Cubase are you using?

Also, FWIW, here is the the error information from the Cubase crash log.

Exception code: C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION

Any help anyone?

Thanks,
Babz

Babz wrote:

Yes, all of my M-Tron patch files are in a single folder called "M-Tron." I have all 4 tape banks. Most work fine, but 15 specific ones give the error message when I call them up. They don't appear to be from any one tape bank/CD, etc.. Here is the list: Problem M-Tron files Bass Acc. Trmbns + Trmpts Eng. Accordian ARP_Trombone Orchestra_Moog Tripled8_Choir M300_Solo_Viol Moog_Bass_Bells M300_Strings MkII_Violins AccB_Viols_Brs MkII_Trombone MkII_Tenor_Sax Cello+Strings MF Choir [This last one (MF Choir) has its own unique error message: "M-Tron Error Couldn't open bank requested! Has it been deleted from disk?" And no it has NOT been deleted and is still in the same location on my HD where it has always been.]

A possible reason for that could be that these files weren´t properly converted during installation (the bank files cannot only be copied, but they have to be converted). I would recommend to re-install the banks again.

AndreasE wrote:

I also got this update some months ago because of having the same CPU problem. But it didn´t work for me, only getting an error message of missing library files or something similiar. I reported this to Dave Spiers, but heard then nothing more from him.

Yesterday I got from Dave (who is really a very nice guy and who does an excellent customer support!) the new M-Tron.dll including 2 system .dlls.

Same problem here.

However, the new stuff that I had to put in the system folder crashed my PC

I haven't been recording much lately, but went back to check and M-tron is making the CPU go up over time. I think I may have an older version to try.

Any other suggestions?

David, did you write this Dave? It seems that he wants to release this new version soon, so it would be important for him to know this problem.

Nope, but I should

We just had a baby and my time is limited

time to go.

Anyone who got the new v.4.6 can reproduce the following bugs?

1. When I´ve loaded patch #n (n>1), then change the selector to A or B and then again to C, there is always patch #1 indicated, but played will be #n.
2. ´Sad Strings´ and ´Saxophones´ are sounding both exactly the same ... like Sad Strings.
3. ´Ch_Harp1´ and ´Ch_Harp2´ are both sounding like choirs.
Maybe some other instruments are also not sounding right, I didn´t test them all.

These bugs aren´t present in the old v.4.1, which I still own.

AndreasE wrote:

Anyone who got the new v.4.6 can reproduce the following bugs? 1. When I´ve loaded patch #n (n>1), then change the selector to A or B and then again to C, there is always patch #1 indicated, but played will be #n. 2. ´Sad Strings´ and ´Saxophones´ are sounding both exactly the same ... like Sad Strings. 3. ´Ch_Harp1´ and ´Ch_Harp2´ are both sounding like choirs. Maybe some other instruments are also not sounding right, I didn´t test them all. These bugs aren´t present in the old v.4.1, which I still own.

i can confirm all of these. The only one i can't confirm is hapr TWO cause i get a harp on that, but with one, yes, i get the choir. No sax either. there's about 3 other patches that have similar symptoms, i will have to go trhough them all again to find exactly which are wrong.

Hi AndreasE:

I wasn't able to reproduce the errors you mention.

However, I'm happy to report that GMedia has recently sent me a new version of 4.6 and it seems to have solved all my problems. All patches load fine and no processor overloads. Hopefully it will solve your errors too.

Thanks to GMedia for prompt and persistant help with this!

Best,
Babz

Babz wrote:

Hi AndreasE: I wasn't able to reproduce the errors you mention.

Same here

Babz wrote:

However, I'm happy to report that GMedia has recently sent me a new version of 4.6 and it seems to have solved all my problems. All patches load fine and no processor overloads. Hopefully it will solve your errors too.

Yes, the new version has fixed all of my reported bugs, too.

I need that version

me too!

iDavid wrote:

I need that version

Sent to you today - congrats on the nipper too

S_A_P wrote:

me too!

It was sent to you yesterday



Dave

Thanks Dave!!

Do I need to add those system files as well, or just the dll?

If you're using XP just the .dll - if you're using an older version of Windows you might have to add them.

woohoo! all fixed here!

Working GREAT!

CPU loads is about 1%, fantastic!

i think you can release this one as official Dave. I am sure alot of people are waiting for it.

ttoz wrote:

i think you can release this one as official Dave. I am sure alot of people are waiting for it.

But pleeeaaase after adding
- tape banks browser and attack/release faders accessible at the same time (i.e. removing the unnecessary A-B-C switch).
- animating the keys when played via MIDI.

Dave Spiers wrote:

iDavid wrote: I need that version Sent to you today - congrats on the nipper too S_A_P wrote: me too! It was sent to you yesterday Dave

Thanks Dave, but I didnt get it- did it bounce?

Send it to me!!!! I've got 4.1 I think it is and it's ok and all but this sounds alot better,

Send it to me tooo!!!






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Screams like a B@stard and wails like a banshee

Dave just hooked me up and the CPU creep problem no longer occurs in Buzz.

Praise the G! Praise the G!

and where is mega-tron?