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AuthorTopic: cameleon 5000 advice?
origami
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:07
hi
I was thinking over imrpoving my studio and my sound and I'd like to buy a really good substractive synth and a non-substractive synth.

someone has recommended me the Korg Legacy Collection, well I have just tried them and the ms-20 is very good actually.

and I was considering also to buy a non-substractive synth. I once thought about Absynth BUT it's a bit too complex for me.

So now someone recommended me Cameleon 5000. what do u think? is it relatively easy to use? I am no master of synthesis but no newbie either.

opinions?
ttoz
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:11
yes. the gui is very intuitively laid out, the sound is stellar, it is very stable, and the presets are incredible. even if you don't like presets there are plenty of starters for your own sounds.
rsmus7
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:28
IŽd say the cameleon is easy to use, but it helps to RTFM. And it has a special sound , that no other softsynth can make.
With just a little time you share with reading the manual and trying to programm you should be able to get good results.
And it depends on the kind of music you want to make.
I wouldnt recommend Cameleon for Trance leads, thou it is even capable of these sounds. And does very good basses with almost no CPU usage.
But te best and unique is the morph and the possible padsounds, here is where Cameleon can do really amazing sounds.

And dont forget the random feature, very helpfull and good working.
rsmus7
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:29
And I forgot, there are already about 1000 sounds ready for use that you get and can dl with cameleon.
vurt
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:31
so easy even i can use it Very Happy
Midiworks
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:35
http://www.kvr-vst.com/ratings/0.html

Go 4 it !
Easy and so much fun !! Very Happy

Try the demo Wink
origami
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:36
then maybe it's the non.substractive synth I was looking for. I make industrial-pop music, well sort of. is it distributed in shops or can only be bought directly to the developer?

and what substractive synth would u recommend me? the fact is I use Synth 1 and say what substractive synths does actually sound much better than Synth 1 so that its purchase is justified?

thx
vurt
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:39
legendary pink dots fan arent you?
isnt the ms20 based on the ms2000 series?
if so i can see why you like the sounds
ed ka spel uses the ms2000 Cool
rsmus7
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:40
Subtractive and easy to programm:

IŽd say buy rgc:audio pentagon I,

or even better the z3ta+
or the virsyn Tera
or to give a try Pro53
these are all great synths and good sounding.

IŽd suggest you dl the demos and try what fits your taste and way of working
origami
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:43
edward uses the korg synth then? wow great that explains it all. legendary pink dots is my favourite band actually.

well I'll keep on playing with the demos till I make up my mind.
rsmus7
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:43
again, I forgot,

the Linplug Alpha is a good sounding, easy to programm and cheap synth with lots of presets (over 750)

and the lallapalooza freebie is nice
and the Crystal used as a subtractive is good, but not so easy to handle.

and there are some Synthedit synths that sound good as subtractive synths, try to get the Superwave P8.
origami
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:45
oh yes rsmus, some of those are actually my most used synths.

Synth 1 /my favourite), Lallapalooza Lite, Ugo Motion, Superwave 8...

and the thing is...do the commercial synths actually sound better?
vurt
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:53
origami wrote:
edward uses the korg synth then? wow great that explains it all. legendary pink dots is my favourite band actually.

well I'll keep on playing with the demos till I make up my mind.



yeah big fan of the dots myself Cool
rsmus7
Posted: 11th November 2004 05:54
every synth has its own sound, but is it better?

depends on your ears/taste.

But some of the commercial ones use less CPU, like the Alpha and the pro53.

And the Pro53 has a nice and unique sound.
Jim [Camel Audio]
Posted: 11th November 2004 13:10
origami wrote:
then maybe it's the non.substractive synth I was looking for. I make industrial-pop music, well sort of. is it distributed in shops or can only be bought directly to the developer?

thx


Hi origami,

I'm glad you are interested in Cameleon Very Happy

I recommend you check out the demo, and demo tunes, and see how it suits your musical style. It's a versatile instrument so I think you'll like it. The demo has a limited set of patches, but there are now over 1000 patches available to Cameleon users, with more being made all the time.

Cameleon can be bought online, or for a few extra dollars you can get it on CD through the same ordering process, via the website.

Enjoy!

Jim
origami
Posted: 11th November 2004 13:17
hi!
yes just today I've been messing around with it and I'm impressed actually.
the problem is that i wanted to pay it by credit card but in the buying procedure it says I need to have a non-free email account, and I haven't.

why is that? am I right or wrong?

thx
rsmus7
Posted: 11th November 2004 13:32
your right

you cant use free-mail accounts for payment with credit cards. Sad

I think its because of the validation of the owner or or or.

Just take another way to pay. But do it!!!!!! Get it while the prize is still low.
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