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AuthorTopic: Battery 2 or RMIV????
eliteone
Posted: 21st November 2004 14:42
Question

Okay....drum sampler fanatics. Simple question, but I need the some elaborations:

Which is the better product....RVIV or Battery 2??????? Any why????????!!! Get at me.

Elite
bitcrusher
Posted: 21st November 2004 14:44
What about DR-008?!! I refuse to vote Smile

and of course we must not forget
http://www.guru-hq.com
coming very soon Smile
AndrewSimon
Posted: 21st November 2004 14:49
BDF is the best.

Shit!
[absurd]
Posted: 21st November 2004 14:58
AndrewSimon wrote:
BDF is the best.

Shit!

BFD? It is not a drum sampler.
I vote for DR-008. Just try it; I've tried RMIV and Battery 2, but I don't like them nearly as much. Plus you will be able to upgrade to Drum 9 when it comes out, and it will blow them all away.
AD80
Posted: 21st November 2004 15:02
I'm a self proclaimed drum sampler fanatic. Starting with a SP12, then SP1200, then MPC2000XL, then MPC1000.
I choose Battery2.0. Especially after the up comming update. The interface is awsome, the mapping is great, great fetures, stability, great sound.
Caleb
Posted: 21st November 2004 15:21
Forget both and make your way over to the market forum and look at the ultimate SR combi drum group buy.

God's gift to drummers - check it out.

Here's the link to help you on your way:

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63019

Very Happy

Caleb
ttoz
Posted: 21st November 2004 15:24
what a STUPID poll without dr008 in there.
morelia
Posted: 21st November 2004 15:33
I couldn't vote. I have RMIV but Battery is a more full featured program. I don't know about the kits in Battery but there are some excellent Acoustic kits and heaps of Edrums in RMIV. I have BFD so the RMIV kits are just a bonus. Not that I don't use the kits but it is a more basic program and I find it very simple to use and a great addition to BFD for trying different snares, hats or whatever. Plus I can make my own custom kits if I want. The key for me was simplicity. I wouldn't use the full power of Battery. I tend to just use RMIV as a player for kit pieces and don't even use all it's features. In the end it comes down to how you want to use it.
ttoz
Posted: 21st November 2004 15:46
and a "smotehing else" option is needed too...

ravity r for example.

lets do the poll again fresh
Ja.x
Posted: 21st November 2004 16:05
What about SR-202? Forgot it?



HiHi
ttoz
Posted: 21st November 2004 16:05
jax wrote:
What about SR-202? Forgot it?



HiHi


Shit!
Forever Sun
Posted: 21st November 2004 16:24
ttoz wrote:
what a STUPID poll without dr008 in there.


Maybe not. Maybe he just wants to get one of these only, having already looked at DR008 and SR202 ?

So which is it eliteone ? You wanna buy one of them ?

I've got RMIV but haven't used Battery therefore can't advice. The kits in RMIV were one of the main deciding reasons for buying it.
meister eder
Posted: 21st November 2004 16:27
ttoz wrote:
and a "smotehing else" option is needed too...

ravity r for example.

lets do the poll again fresh


You know, there are some people left in this world, who do polls not just for the poll's sake. Rolling Eyes Razz
ttoz
Posted: 21st November 2004 16:34
dr.wackler wrote:
ttoz wrote:
and a "smotehing else" option is needed too...

ravity r for example.

lets do the poll again fresh


You know, there are some people left in this world, who do polls not just for the poll's sake. Rolling Eyes Razz


HiHi
Scotty
Posted: 21st November 2004 17:27
I find some of the group buy hype to be getting annoying. I can live with the inter-thread banter but when the group participants are encouraged to spam or find creative ways of spreading the word and it comes up in other threads in KVR it feels and sounds like one big time -pressure-loaded-get-this-because-its-soooo-awesome rant. This type of marketing straddles a fine line between welcomed and effective and cheesy/trite. Currently it feels like Kraft Processed Cheese Slices to me. Do we really need this level of commerce - grabbing for our wallets at every turn? Is sample tank truly a sampler? Can you readily make your own sounds and assemble velocity cross fades, Can it import wave files on the fly? Does an EZ Sounds group buy post belong here? I am a fan of some of EZ SOUNDS products - I purchased group buy #1 and was satisfied with the product and was impressed with customer service and follow-up. In short I am a satisfied customer and posted such sentiments in THAT thread.

There is such a thing as over exposure which can de-value a product or reduce the prestige of the company. Speaking purely as an individual, I've reached my saturation point. Obviously, your mileage may vary. I think that developers should consider these variables before they let loose hundreds of salesman working for EZ-Points or lower product prices . The company can make a quick buck, repackage a product and try to hook new sellers but there is a danger of lowering the bar for the company. More importantly, I'd hate to see what would happen to KVR if all group-buys were proliferated in this manner. The great thing about KVR is that it is organized so well. I can read reviews, go to product forums, read the comments of other users in context of my interests, avoid or engage in commentary or follow links to product pages as I see fit. I'd hate to see that go as developers experiment with new ways of leveraging their advertising dollars in the pursuit of marketing on the cheap.

I'd like to see some rules for group-buy marketing on KVR before this all gets out of hand. Just my thoughts.
meister eder
Posted: 21st November 2004 17:34
Scotty
Posted: 21st November 2004 17:40
Quoting from this very thread.

"Forget both and make your way over to the market forum and look at the ultimate SR combi drum group buy.

God's gift to drummers - check it out.

Here's the link to help you on your way:

http://www.kvr-vst.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63019 "
smart
Posted: 21st November 2004 18:04
IS TAHT TEH EZ SOUNDZ Question
Caleb
Posted: 21st November 2004 18:22
I stand by what I said - I personally think it's a better option than either which is why I'm going for it instead of things like Battery and RMIV.

If you're worried about such cross-posts why polute a thread which is basically asking for advice with such an opinion which is actually more OT than a suggestion not on the poll list.

Start a new thread in Everything Else or something and have a bitch about it. It sounds like a relevant enough topic to discuss.

Caleb
Scotty
Posted: 21st November 2004 18:37
I posted here to make the point in context. I could repost but the context of the thread itself supports my view. Nothing personal, Caleb. Your behaving in your best interests and with zeal. I just don't think it is appropriate to cross polinate the thread in your efforts to support a lower cost group buy. Its not just your post, it the potential for empowered third party marketers to change the nature of the discussions in this form. Maybe that is the way things will evolve at KVR and it will be accepted and I'll be the odd one out. I think it is worth expressing my point and respect that you have a differing view.
Caleb
Posted: 22nd November 2004 00:07
Scotty wrote:
Your behaving in your best interests and with zeal. I just don't think it is appropriate to cross polinate the thread in your efforts to support a lower cost group buy.


Then you're still misinterpreting the primary reason why I'm posting here.

I'm posting here because I think it's the best drum deal I've ever seen from a company I totally respect and it's only going to be available for order for a short time and then never going to be seen again in this form.

Therefore, anyone who is looking for a drum fix in this short period is going to get the same advice from me. Don't overlook what I consider to be the drum deal of the century. (although that is a statement drenched in the hyperbole I use when quite excited about a product - which doesn't happen that often).

The fact that it could mean it costs less for me is a lovely incentive Smile and I'll take whatever reduction it gives me because I could use it, but if this deal came out without the Group Buy and at the full price I would have bought it (probably sacrificed a goat to get it) and still been recommending it zealously given the limited time nature of the product.

But as I said - my recommendation still stands. Limited offer BIG on content worthy of a closer look.

I'm so sold on this content that if I'm disappointed with it every poor bugger in K-v-R will know about it. Laughing

I'm telling you - it's quite rare that I get this excited. I think the last time was when Muzys became a VST host at v2.0 and I went bananas in K-v-R about it. Embarassed

I still think your concerns a worth a thread in Everything Else though - because I can basically understand where you're coming from. I might make a thread myself to put it under discussion.

Caleb
Scotty
Posted: 22nd November 2004 14:06
Fair enough Caleb. Thanks. I'll look forward to the discussion, if any is generated.
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