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AuthorTopic: Absynth 3 upgrade anyone yet ???
Raven
Posted: 22nd December 2004 02:50
Anyone got their upgrade yet , what d'ya recon to it Question

I see you can yet the upgrade from your local NI
dealer now Razz

Digital village have it now in the UK acording to their website Razz
[absurd]
Posted: 22nd December 2004 02:55
I just noticed that NI have charged my credit card, so I guess that they are going to start shipping the upgrade, but I haven't received any kind of email confirmation.
I am dying to get my hands on this thing!
original flipper
Posted: 22nd December 2004 03:30
HI

I got mine yesterday - I have it installed but only spent 30 minutes with it, comes with 1,000 pre-sets - I don't know if they are original to V3.

I prefered the original GUI!

Flipper.
PeteInEssex
Posted: 22nd December 2004 03:46
I ordered Komplete Care 2005 on 8th Dec - it arrived on monday and I was excited to see a red sticker on ther front saying that Battery 2 and Abs3 Included - then I read below the sticker 'ABS3 will be shipped to you' Sad
And I was hoping to have a good play over Christmas - guess I'll have to stick to making turkey sarnies....

Pete
Symbiant
Posted: 22nd December 2004 07:51
original flipper wrote:
HI

I got mine yesterday - I have it installed but only spent 30 minutes with it, comes with 1,000 pre-sets - I don't know if they are original to V3.

I prefered the original GUI!

Flipper.


There are 2 banks of brand new, original Abs3 sounds (256 patches - 46 of them mine Very Happy Embarassed )

I too prefer the original GUI, but got used to the new one pretty quickly.

[bio]
ew
Posted: 22nd December 2004 09:35
I like the original GUI myself,but as Kol said,you get used to the new one quick enough Wink
There's a couple cool tricks you can do with the surround sound implementation even if you aren't set up for surround sound-by taking say the octasound configuration(eight separate outs)and placing an oscil channel midway between two of the outputs,you can put separate outboard fx on each output and morph between them.You can do quasi-vector tricks,and... Love
Kol's patches are a work of art as always We're not worthy....

ew
original flipper
Posted: 22nd December 2004 09:41
HI

Yea the GUI aint a biggie - I need to look at the envelopes - am hoping that they can be synced and perhaps have some pre-set ones as well.

Flipper.
jcroot
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:20
I decided to finally buy absynth 3 (not the upgrade) from audiomidi, but it's not there yet - I got an email yesterday saying eta=6-10 days Crying or Very sad
ew
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:28
original flipper wrote:
HI

Yea the GUI aint a biggie - I need to look at the envelopes - am hoping that they can be synced and perhaps have some pre-set ones as well.

Flipper.

You've been able to sync envelopes since v2.
I've got 21 preset envelopes in my library-I can't remember if any of them were ones I did or not-probably not Embarassed Laughing
ew
normal
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:30
drop shipping from california in 2-3 days ...
jcroot
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:33
now if I only knew what drop shipping was Very Happy
normal
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:34
jcroot wrote:
now if I only knew what drop shipping was Very Happy


i ordered from a retail store , as a pre- order ( not yet in stock ) ...

it will ship direct to me , not to the store first ... hence ... drop ship ...
gunnar
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:44
installed the v3 update today:
faster menus on my old 466 g4.
VERY nice new presets.
no hanging notes.
no crashes until now.
i love it.
it feels good.
i prefered the old GUI, but get used to the we one.
i have had only time to play some of the presets, but i am glad to have bought
the upate.
BUT the v3 didnt found the samples in some presets the first time after installing, i have had to point them manually. but then everything sounded amazing.
i dont feel like a beta tester
jcroot
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:56
thanks normal. I ordered mine from a retailer not yet in stock yet either, so hopefully they won't ship through them but directly to me.
ew
Posted: 22nd December 2004 10:58
A cautionary note that may seem obvious but might be overlooked-if you're planning on still using A2(for old projects,etc.),A2 will not open any banks saved in A3.Best thing to do is to copy all your A2 banks that aren't duplicated in the A3 install to your A3 folder.
ew
normal
Posted: 22nd December 2004 11:01
ew wrote:
A cautionary note that may seem obvious but might be overlooked-if you're planning on still using A2(for old projects,etc.),A2 will not open any banks saved in A3.Best thing to do is to copy all your A2 banks that aren't duplicated in the A3 install to your A3 folder.
ew


good tip ...
i'm sure i wouldn't have thought about that , and then Doh! ...
pretty much the same as from v.1 to v.2 ...
ew
Posted: 22nd December 2004 11:03
I won't mention any names,but someone I'm well acquainted with forgot that Embarassed Laughing
ew
jcroot
Posted: 23rd December 2004 08:57
audiomidi says. . .

january 15th Shocked Crying or Very sad
jcroot
Posted: 23rd December 2004 09:35
Btw, to anyone who ordered from floridamusic company. The quoted price - $169 - was off by a hundred - their apologies.
annode
Posted: 23rd December 2004 17:07
Had a listen to all the glo.1 and 2 presets.
For me personally,they suck!
They all,(all for the most part),sound grainulized,(not a big fan).
The majority are "hold note and wait for moving soundscape",really not playable.
If I was working as a film soundtrack composer,and worked on odd films,it might have some value.

As far as the internal workings...didn`t get there yet.

Going by the presets...i`m pretty pissed off...it`s worthless to me! Crying or Very sad
DevonB
Posted: 23rd December 2004 17:37
I won't see my copy til the beginning of the year here either.

Devon
luCiPHer
Posted: 24th December 2004 05:44
well, getting absynth 3 on december 24th is cool Very Happy

just installed, playing around with the new presets now (well, for about 3-4 hours now HiHi )

first impressions...

GUI: i hated the screenshots, but i definately like it now Shit!
the usability is highly increased, and it does not look half as bad as i feared it would...

new presets: what i played with until now is quite impressive, and quite useless Confused
as far as i can see there are no new "use me" presets but just 256 new techdemos, that are fun, but show only ONE side of absynth.

new features: give me a break, i just strated playing with the presets, but some of them show what the new functions can do, and as i said, they may not be useful, but impressive, and so are the new features Love
cptgone
Posted: 24th December 2004 05:55
jcroot wrote:
Btw, to anyone who ordered from floridamusic company. The quoted price - $169 - was off by a hundred - their apologies.


In my country they wouldn't have the legal right to charge more then.
PAK
Posted: 24th December 2004 06:52
annode wrote:
Had a listen to all the glo.1 and 2 presets.
For me personally,they suck!

Going by the presets...i`m pretty pissed off...it`s worthless to me! Crying or Very sad


You're not the only one. The cold "alien soundscapes" do nothing for me either. Some are a nice showcase of what's possible with the engine. But there's not a whole lot that's usable in there unless you're a 1 finger jockey that likes sitting there waiting for a minute as a sound evolves.

Oh well, all I can say is Absynth has always been my least favourite NI synth, and the new version manages to remain so. But i'm sure the types that like to spend hours creating a preset that sounds like water gurgling down a pipe will love it Smile
normal
Posted: 24th December 2004 07:01
PAK wrote:
annode wrote:
Had a listen to all the glo.1 and 2 presets.
For me personally,they suck!

Going by the presets...i`m pretty pissed off...it`s worthless to me! Crying or Very sad


You're not the only one. The cold "alien soundscapes" do nothing for me either. Some are a nice showcase of what's possible with the engine. But there's not a whole lot that's usable in there unless you're a 1 finger jockey that likes sitting there waiting for a minute as a sound evolves.

Oh well, all I can say is Absynth has always been my least favourite NI synth, and the new version manages to remain so. But i'm sure the types that like to spend hours creating a preset that sounds like water gurgling down a pipe will love it Smile


i generally prefer to wait 5-to-10 mins. ... Razz

all this griping about the presets has me lmao ...

i have found that absynth suggests music that needs exploring ...

your mileage may vary ...
Sicklecell666
Posted: 24th December 2004 07:04
Yeah, if any tarnce-head's not happy with the upgrade, just pass that license on to me & call it a day..
annode
Posted: 24th December 2004 07:52
sickle sez;
Quote:
Yeah, if any tarnce-head's not happy with the upgrade, just pass that license on to me & call it a day..

You may definitely have luck there sickle.
You may actually be able to use these preset sounds.(knowing your styles)
But for most,I just don`t get why they made the presets so one sided,for such a select audience.

I can also agree with Pak and say I don`t like absynth as much as other NI instruments...but at least version 2 gave me instrument sounds.
I myself,would rather make my own soundscapes/atmospheres.
Absynth3...most all the atmospheres sound similar and don`t see myself using the app.much to create.

This is my impression at this time...I can`t say for sure I`ll hold this opinion.
davidlinn
Posted: 24th December 2004 08:12
For me as well, Absynth hasn't been all that useful, at least for the price. Reaktor is the NI synth I enjoy more, but even that has found limited use. I've had much more satisfaction with free and less expensive vst's- i.e. Algo M42, Rhino, Crystal, Ugo and Krakli's synths, Iblit, etc.

David

www.davidlinn.com
Sicklecell666
Posted: 24th December 2004 08:26
annode wrote:
sickle sez;
Quote:
Yeah, if any tarnce-head's not happy with the upgrade, just pass that license on to me & call it a day..

You may definitely have luck there sickle.
You may actually be able to use these preset sounds.(knowing your styles)
But for most,I just don`t get why they made the presets so one sided,for such a select audience.

I can also agree with Pak and say I don`t like absynth as much as other NI instruments...but at least version 2 gave me instrument sounds.
I myself,would rather make my own soundscapes/atmospheres.
Absynth3...most all the atmospheres sound similar and don`t see myself using the app.much to create.

This is my impression at this time...I can`t say for sure I`ll hold this opinion.


I've gotten some really good non-ambient stuff out of it, annode..You just gotta work it, man.. Very Happy

I remember this huge detuned super-saw sounding patch I made that sounded as good as anything from the other usual suspects for that kinda sound..
annode
Posted: 24th December 2004 08:38
Sickle sez;
Quote:
I've gotten some really good non-ambient stuff out of it, annode..You just gotta work it, man..

Yeah...i`m going to have to crack it`s chest open and see what`s inside for sure.
luCiPHer
Posted: 24th December 2004 09:00
absynth is just great for non-ambient sounds.
and some of the older presets clearly show that, and of course wen can create our own.

i just think it's strange, that the new presets are almost exclusively ambient sounds.

most of absynths keyfeatures are great to create instrument sounds as well.
flexible envelopes - interesting attacks etc
fm, ringmodulation, frequency shifter, waveformgenerator - interesting and "natural" timbres etc
interesting effects, various synthesis-types, 3x8 voices unisono and all that semi-modular - extraordinary synth sounds
sample support - always welcome, not just for granular sounds


you see, lots of possibilities to create unique, organic and playable sounds that do not need 30 seconds to evolve Wink

etcetcetc
i still love absynth anyway Embarassed


p.s. hey, i'm definately no tarnce maker HiHi
Sicklecell666
Posted: 24th December 2004 09:03
annode wrote:
Sickle sez;
Quote:
I've gotten some really good non-ambient stuff out of it, annode..You just gotta work it, man..

Yeah...i`m going to have to crack it`s chest open and see what`s inside for sure.


There's a shitload of patches from Absynth 1 available from the yahoo user's group..many of them are designated pads, leads, etc..

Before I went all ambient, I used Absynth mostly for almost everything, basses, leads, I found stuff I was very happy with for damn near any sound..

And that was only for Absynth 1..

Shocked
annode
Posted: 24th December 2004 09:18
Yes I have been updating absynth since v.1.0.

I see now why all the new sounds sound the way they do;
Quote:
256 brand new presets that make use of the added features.


Those 256 in .glo1/.glo2 were designed to show off surround/and new ab3 features...which seem to me,and stated by NI, to be focused toward evolving soundscapes.
Sicklecell666
Posted: 24th December 2004 09:26
annode wrote:
Yes I have been updating absynth since v.1.0.

I see now why all the new sounds sound the way they do;
Quote:
256 brand new presets that make use of the added features.


Those 256 in .glo1/.glo2 were designed to show off surround/and new ab3 features...which seem to me,and stated by NI, to be focused toward evolving soundscapes.


very possiblly..but make sure you check out all the 3rd party banks made during the v1 era..That's got alot of meat & potatoes..
normal
Posted: 24th December 2004 09:38
Sicklecell666 wrote:
annode wrote:
Yes I have been updating absynth since v.1.0.

I see now why all the new sounds sound the way they do;
Quote:
256 brand new presets that make use of the added features.


Those 256 in .glo1/.glo2 were designed to show off surround/and new ab3 features...which seem to me,and stated by NI, to be focused toward evolving soundscapes.


very possiblly..but make sure you check out all the 3rd party banks made during the v1 era..That's got alot of meat & potatoes..


the ellipsis banks are very good ...
i also like 'alone@night' ...
'otto' is superb ...

and one day , i shall have to have 'discreet music' surgically removed ...
annode
Posted: 24th December 2004 09:38
Sonic showed me the yahoo group a while back...was there once for a set of patches...will have to visit it again for sure now that ab3 is out!

Thanx Sickle!!!Good advice!
kuniklo
Posted: 24th December 2004 09:48
annode wrote:

Those 256 in .glo1/.glo2 were designed to show off surround/and new ab3 features...which seem to me,and stated by NI, to be focused toward evolving soundscapes.


I think a lot of the new features make Absynth a lot better at making more conventional analog-style bass and lead sounds. Unison mode, free-running oscillators , and random pitch detune certainly make it a lot easier to get those kinds of sounds out of it.

Now if it only had an arp...
Sicklecell666
Posted: 24th December 2004 10:00
kuniklo wrote:
annode wrote:

Those 256 in .glo1/.glo2 were designed to show off surround/and new ab3 features...which seem to me,and stated by NI, to be focused toward evolving soundscapes.


I think a lot of the new features make Absynth a lot better at making more conventional analog-style bass and lead sounds. Unison mode, free-running oscillators , and random pitch detune certainly make it a lot easier to get those kinds of sounds out of it.

Now if it only had an arp...


for $40, every synth you own has an arp with eXT thrown at it Razz
munchkin
Posted: 24th December 2004 10:00
I'm thinking of upgrading but it sounds like NI have introduced all these new features but not made use of then in the new banks. Maybe I'm wrong about this because I don't have version 3.

I notice this with other synth upgrades. New features are introduced but the patches don't reflect this. In the case of Absynth I'd like to see some use of the surround features and other new functions to create new innovative sounds instead of the loooonnnng Zzzzzzzzz evolving pads.

The good thing about Absynth is that it has always had a user base who are great at making new sounds (except me Embarassed ). So come on all you Absynth geeks show off what version 3 can do so I can wet my knickers.
spaceman
Posted: 26th December 2004 17:22
Absynth 3 sounds incredible Shocked
it kicks total ass

and easy on the cpu

worth every penny and more
Daniel Richter
Posted: 29th December 2004 07:39
@munchkin and to everybody:
Yes, exactly! All Absynth userers are very welcome to down- and upload new patches to NI'S Absynth User LIB and exchange it with all other users! Would be a great thing to ad the KVR and Yahoo Group Absynth patches to the Absynth Lib. In our opnion they are great stuff Smile
and our user lib should be the first place to go for all pll who search for new patches!
Great new year and best wishes from the remaining NI-team throughout the whole KVR crowd!
Daniel(NI)
cptgone
Posted: 29th December 2004 08:12
Just got my Komplete Care - WITHOUT Absy3!

They're gonna send it later on...

Must be patient.
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