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KVR Forum [Instruments] » Archive » Instruments » January 2005 Index | KVRFA1
AuthorTopic: NIN Starf*ckers
LoopisLucas
Posted: 2nd January 2005 12:46
Hello everyone,
I was wondering if you could suggest some cool effects, plug-ins, or methods to alter vocal tracks in FL Studio 4.1. I was listening to Nine Inch Nail's track "Starf*ckers" and I was really impressed with the choppiness of the vocal track.

Thanks

Smile
maz22
Posted: 2nd January 2005 13:01
The easiest and most direct way would be to use FL's slicer tool and just repeat whatever slice you want in the piano roll.
You could also use the granulizer as well but you'll have to fool around with the parameters.
There are also loads of freebee fx plugs to achieve this effect; my favorite is the SmartElectronix Supatrigga.
Sicklecell666
Posted: 2nd January 2005 13:03
That's the best Ministry song Ministry never made..

HiHi
origami
Posted: 2nd January 2005 13:05
no, that's the best ministry song ministry wished they had made... Razz
Sicklecell666
Posted: 2nd January 2005 13:10
origami wrote:
no, that's the best ministry song ministry wished they had made... Razz


have another crack rock, skipper..
SecondSkin
Posted: 2nd January 2005 19:31
Sicklecell666 wrote:
That's the best Ministry song Ministry never made..

HiHi


...or the best Hanzel und Gretyl song....
druid
Posted: 2nd January 2005 20:06
SecondSkin wrote:
Sicklecell666 wrote:
That's the best Ministry song Ministry never made..

HiHi


...or the best Hanzel und Gretyl song....


I disagree, I thought it was one of the more boring tracks on Transmissions.
_oswald
Posted: 2nd January 2005 20:24
Sicklecell666 wrote:
That's the best Ministry song Ministry never made..

HiHi

But does it surpass 'Bad Blood' or any other track off the stellar 'Dark Side of the Spoon' LP? HiHi
origami
Posted: 3rd January 2005 03:33
never liked Ministry...

I prefer...

The Young Gods!!
BONES
Posted: 3rd January 2005 03:42
Saw Young Gods live about 10 or so years ago. They played with a bunch of alternative type rock bands and absolutely blew them all off-stage. I was standing near some members of The Hard-Ons and Celibate Rifles who stood around with their jaws around their ankles for most of the set, they just couldn't believe it.
origami
Posted: 3rd January 2005 03:45
lucky you, Bones!!

I've always thought the Young Gods are an undervalued (?) band. I know they are recording now a new album, and I'm quite eager cos I liked their latest album a lot.
Kriminal
Posted: 3rd January 2005 03:46
origami wrote:


I prefer...

The Young Gods!!


Same here...


BONES wrote:
Saw Young Gods live about 10 or so years ago.


So did i...

If you want that kinda effect, you need a lot of well thought out distortion, and lots of patience in Soundforge Wink
origami
Posted: 3rd January 2005 03:48
young gods fans! great! Very Happy
BONES
Posted: 3rd January 2005 03:48
I think Starfuckers is when I decided I no longer had any interst in NIN.
Montana
Posted: 3rd January 2005 04:05
it is a far cry from the great stuff o nthe Downard Spiral.
Kriminal
Posted: 3rd January 2005 04:11
Montana wrote:
it is a far cry from the great stuff o nthe Downard Spiral.


Which is below the great standard of stuff on the first two albums Wink
BONES
Posted: 3rd January 2005 04:16
The Downward Spiral was his second album.
Kriminal
Posted: 3rd January 2005 04:18
BONES wrote:
The Downward Spiral was his second album.


Nope, that was Broken.
SecondSkin
Posted: 3rd January 2005 05:44
druid wrote:
SecondSkin wrote:
Sicklecell666 wrote:
That's the best Ministry song Ministry never made..

HiHi


...or the best Hanzel und Gretyl song....


I disagree, I thought it was one of the more boring tracks on Transmissions.


I agree. I was just remembering that HuG used the title first.

Quote:
I think Starfuckers is when I decided I no longer had any interst in NIN.


agreed here, too....though, as usual, Alan Moulder's production work is Love Love Love
origami
Posted: 3rd January 2005 09:05
For me The Downward Spiral is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch better than Pretty Hate machine and broken.
ezeeboogie
Posted: 3rd January 2005 10:10
Kriminal wrote:
BONES wrote:
The Downward Spiral was his second album.


Nope, that was Broken.


And that would make the third "Fixed"...
phatty
Posted: 3rd January 2005 10:14
technically, isnt Broken a EP and Fixed "just" a remix album?

(Love the remix of Wish on fixed Very Happy )
Kriminal
Posted: 3rd January 2005 10:26
phatty wrote:
technically, isnt Broken a EP and Fixed "just" a remix album?

(Love the remix of Wish on fixed Very Happy )


You mean a remix EP HiHi
phatty
Posted: 3rd January 2005 10:35
well.....coughyeahcough

Very Happy
maz22
Posted: 3rd January 2005 15:26
There was a second remix album that was good as well. I always thought that Starfuckers was dedicated to a Courtney Love. The songs not that bad but the chorus kills it.
Green Red Brownell
Posted: 3rd January 2005 15:38
SecondSkin wrote:

I agree. I was just remembering that HuG used the title first.


Hell, the Rolling Stones had a song by that name long before that. But, on the album, they were forced to call it "Star Star", because it was an earlier age. That's not how the lyrics went, however.... Laughing
SecondSkin
Posted: 3rd January 2005 16:07
Quote:
Hell, the Rolling Stones had a song by that name long before that. But, on the album, they were forced to call it "Star Star", because it was an earlier age. That's not how the lyrics went, however....


yeah, I figured HuG's use wasn't the first. Is there nothing truly new in this world???
ew
Posted: 3rd January 2005 16:17
Quote:
Hell, the Rolling Stones had a song by that name long before that. But, on the album, they were forced to call it "Star Star", because it was an earlier age. That's not how the lyrics went, however....

I was playing the first night of a five night gig with a band back in '78.Our agent's girlfriend was there,and asked us to play a Stones cover and dedicate it to her...so we did "Star Star" Wink

Not only did we lose the other four nights,but our agent dropped us Confused Laughing

ew
BONES
Posted: 3rd January 2005 17:32
Kriminal wrote:
BONES wrote:
The Downward Spiral was his second album.

Nope, that was Broken.

Broken is a 6-track MCD. What used to be called a mini-album in the good old days. It doesn't count in any event.
Remixes don't count at all, making The Downward Spiral his second album.
_oswald
Posted: 3rd January 2005 19:02
BONES wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
BONES wrote:
The Downward Spiral was his second album.

Nope, that was Broken.

Broken is a 6-track MCD. What used to be called a mini-album in the good old days. It doesn't count in any event.
Remixes don't count at all, making The Downward Spiral his second album.

Broken has 8 tracks. "Physical" and "Suck" are tracks 98 and 99. HiHi
BONES
Posted: 3rd January 2005 19:10
Not on my CD, they ain't.
_oswald
Posted: 3rd January 2005 19:21
BONES wrote:
Not on my CD, they ain't.

Odd. To be frank, you're the only person I know with 'Broken' that is lacking 'Suck' and 'Physical'.

Maybe it's something you did to anger God? Shit! I remember him saying something about that somewhere... this one time. Shocked
origami
Posted: 4th January 2005 03:16
Bones, are they not as track 98 and 99?? really? that's odd...
TechnoWeeniePas
Posted: 4th January 2005 03:34
BONES wrote:
Not on my CD, they ain't.


Mine either Smile I got my copy back when it came with the mini cd with the extra songs on it...then later they were added to the main CD.
BONES
Posted: 4th January 2005 04:29
That's right, I remember now. I tried looking for it, just to be sure, but I don't have it any more.
Green Red Brownell
Posted: 4th January 2005 20:03
ew wrote:
Quote:
Hell, the Rolling Stones had a song by that name long before that. But, on the album, they were forced to call it "Star Star", because it was an earlier age. That's not how the lyrics went, however....

I was playing the first night of a five night gig with a band back in '78.Our agent's girlfriend was there,and asked us to play a Stones cover and dedicate it to her...so we did "Star Star" Wink

Not only did we lose the other four nights,but our agent dropped us Confused Laughing

ew



Hehehehehehe... that's so rock 'n' roll that I don't know what to say!! Har.... many props to you and the band!! Did your amps go to 11??? Very Happy
Subvert
Posted: 4th January 2005 20:51
origami wrote:
Bones, are they not as track 98 and 99?? really? that's odd...


There were actually three versions of Broken. The first had the bonus 3 inch cd, which I discovered months after I bought it when it fell out of the cardboard longbox. The second had the bonus tracks as 98 and 99, The third was the simplest with just tracks 1-8.
Har
Posted: 6th January 2005 20:54
Green Red Brownell wrote:
Har.... many props to you and the band!!


Hey, thanks!!! Ooops, wait a second... Laughing
ew
Posted: 6th January 2005 23:20
Har wrote:
Green Red Brownell wrote:
Har.... many props to you and the band!!


Hey, thanks!!! Ooops, wait a second... Laughing

I'm sure you were with me in spirit,Har Wink Laughing
Funny you should mention the amps going to 11-the club owner's main reason for firing us(or so he said)was that we were way too loud Confused Laughing
ew
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