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AuthorTopic: Kubik Kontest news!!
x_bruce
Posted: 2nd January 2005 13:05
Hello all,

we may have confused a few people at musicFAQ's site, so I'm up here to let you know that the contest for a free license of ConcreteFX Kubik has a deadline of February 2, 2005, not the January deadline.

Sorry about that, the site has been changed to reflect this information.

Regards,
Bruce Satinover
http://www.musicfaq.net
M'Snah
Posted: 2nd January 2005 13:57
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ew
Posted: 2nd January 2005 14:07
HansM wrote:
That's good to know, although it would have been better if you had let us now *before* the deadline had passed. IMO the deadline of Jan 2 had included a long enough period to finish a song for this contest.

--HansM

It HAD been extended earlier due to the confusion of what was allowed,alternate prizes for Kubik owners,etc;but Bruce forgot to change the page on the site(he's a very busy guy),and I didn't notice until today Embarassed ,when I brought it to his attention.

The other guy at musicFAQ,
ew
Rellik
Posted: 2nd January 2005 16:24
Oooh..

I'm definitely going to go for this 90 seconds I can do Smile.

What styles of music do the judges like?
ew
Posted: 2nd January 2005 16:42
Rellik wrote:
Oooh..

I'm definitely going to go for this 90 seconds I can do Smile.

What styles of music do the judges like?

Anything and everything-surprise us Wink
ew
Rellik
Posted: 2nd January 2005 16:55
ew wrote:
Rellik wrote:
Oooh..

I'm definitely going to go for this 90 seconds I can do Smile.

What styles of music do the judges like?

Anything and everything-surprise us Wink
ew


Ok. Smile

Can I ask a question here? Maybe you don't want this thread to get consumed by questions and whatnot since it's just an announcement, but: Why are recordings of vocals and real instruments allowed but not multi-sampled instruments? The concept's the same, but it's sort of unfair to people without a microphone Sad, the way I see it.
vurt
Posted: 2nd January 2005 16:59
90seconds Shit! thats not even a half note Shocked






HiHi
im in
ew
Posted: 2nd January 2005 17:01
Rellik wrote:
ew wrote:
Rellik wrote:
Oooh..

I'm definitely going to go for this 90 seconds I can do Smile.

What styles of music do the judges like?

Anything and everything-surprise us Wink
ew


Ok. Smile

Can I ask a question here? Maybe you don't want this thread to get consumed by questions and whatnot since it's just an announcement, but: Why are recordings of vocals and real instruments allowed but not multi-sampled instruments? The concept's the same, but it's sort of unfair to people without a microphone Sad, the way I see it.

Because the samples are supposed to be used inside Kubik as waveforms,and Kubik doesn't use multisamples...
ew
Rellik
Posted: 2nd January 2005 17:07
The Site wrote:
plus any drums , real instruments or vocals in the mix


that's what I was referring to.
ew
Posted: 2nd January 2005 17:10
That's a good question Confused -I'll call Bruce and have him clarify what's going on...
ew
kritikon
Posted: 2nd January 2005 17:18
Quote:
90seconds thats not even a half note


Laughing Laughing Laughing

Yeah...90 seconds is your equivalent to "Good evening ladies and gentlemen"
x_bruce
Posted: 2nd January 2005 17:26
Howdy. Here's the deal.

Since the Kubik demo is not able to save and you lose your work after the first session most people wouldn't have time to keep a song together and render it to audio.

So we decided on 90 seconds but discussed this with Jon at ConcreteFX and he agreed we should change rules a bit. The rules are somewhat a cross between what was the original and new rules.

You can use other VST instruments. We really don't want music loops, ala ACID/LIVE used. That's what is meant by the discussion of samples. Vocals, guitar/bass/any "real" instrument is ok and encouraged to use along with drum parts (loops here are ok though drums should be easy to produce with any drum synth, but we won't argue on this.)

Hope this makes more sense.


HansM None of these questions were asked when the site changed the rules. That was a month ago. I'm sorry you didn't catch it before but we are trying to be generous by extending the contest. These things questioned here haven't been mentionened until now. But at least you know at this point.

To all else, please email me if you have questions.
jens
Posted: 2nd January 2005 17:42
x_bruce wrote:

HansM None of these questions were asked when the site changed the rules. That was a month ago. I'm sorry you didn't catch it before but we are trying to be generous by extending the contest. These things questioned here haven't been mentionened until now. But at least you know at this point.



Bruce, what makes you think this? Confused

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63914&start=0

You never replied to the questions in the thread you started on your own and now you are pretending they have never been asked.

What a mess... Confused
Rellik
Posted: 2nd January 2005 18:02
Wait - you can't save with the Kubik demo?

I can. Hm... it just cuts out after a while, doesn't it?
jens
Posted: 2nd January 2005 18:10
I don't want to sound too negative b.t.w., Bruce Embarassed

I thank you very much for organizing this contest and for your hard work at musicfaq in general! Very Happy We're not worthy....
x_bruce
Posted: 2nd January 2005 18:20
Jens, I wasn't around during that time but I see that Jon at ConcreteFX was. You or anyone else could have emailed or PM'd me but chose not to. That doesn't show much initiative on anyone's part, although I did get a few emails asking specific questions and songs. No one specifically said there were problems and quite frankly, it wouldn't have killed anyone upset to have asked off list since I wasn't here.

Now that the problem has been addressed you choose to argue, which I find unnecessary and arguing for the sake of argument. There's a license of a great synth up for grabs, why can't people talk about that rather than getting all beside themselves. Another synth will be made available after this contest and throughout the year. We can argue and delay or move on, accept a mistake was made and try to get onto the business of trying to make a good song (of any length folks, not just 90 seconds). Further response will only be addressed if you PM or email me presuming you want to discuss my terrible nature and horrid display of annoyance.

Bruce - email address here: x_bruce@yahoo.com
jens
Posted: 2nd January 2005 18:33
being a bit touchy?

I merely replied to your (false) statement that these questions haven't been brought up before.

Jon wrote in the thread that (as he couldn't answer them himself) he wanted to pass the questions on to you thus logically I assumed that you had indeed been informed. Also I couldn't know that you hadn't been around.

Neither did it want to discuss this nor do I think these issues are a big problem.

Also I don't remember having you atacked personally in any way other than that I proved a statement
you made being wrong. If people wouldn't be allowed to do this the logical conclusion would be that your words aren't worth anything. I beg to differ though. Wink
x_bruce
Posted: 2nd January 2005 19:00
jens, let's just say everthing is cool, ok?

I'm working on a bunch of things at the same time. If anyone is a Project 5 user I need to spend some time discussing your thoughts and comparing them to mine. Look for a discussion on all-in-one studios in the late 1st quarter or early 2nd quarter. Also, we'll have a radio station at musicFAQ soon, trying to work out the best way of working it out. As we get files from the contests we'll have them on a playlist and also offer a listing of everything available from musicFAQ which will be a lot. I have hours of Orion music with it's synths and other VST instruments.

Had I seen the 2nd post you made I wouldn't have bothered with mine, the one about not trying to be personal. Hope that explains things and maybe it is a good lesson to make sure what someone says after you've posted in case the situation has changed.

In that time I was talking with a guy who might be able to bring the site about 20 reviews of his own. They are very good and he'd be a tremendous asset to musicFAQ or any site. Best of all he contacted us. Smile

I'm also working on some reviews I owe TRAX!!!

I need an agent. Laughing
jens
Posted: 2nd January 2005 19:10
x_bruce wrote:
jens, let's just say everthing is cool, ok?



definetely o.k. Cool

I'm looking forward to all that new stuff Very Happy
Rellik
Posted: 2nd January 2005 19:48
... Surprised

Kubik is great! I am SO going to win this contest - nothing can withstand the power of Kubik's wavesequencing !!! Very Happy oh wait everyone else in the contest will be using Kubik too Sad

How come I didn't realize wavesequencing was so amazing before. I mean, I can't really control the synth yet, but when I do get a wavesequence up and running it's like "Wizzour wizzour wizzour" or possibly "Wii zzz ooouuu rrrr Wiii zzz ouuu rrr". And that's just really cool.

I like the format of the contest as well - it's fun doing an all-Kubik (plus Rock for when I need something Rockish plus drums) total war. I wish the deadline were sooner Sad
M'Snah
Posted: 3rd January 2005 00:21
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M'Snah
Posted: 3rd January 2005 00:26
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Concretefx
Posted: 3rd January 2005 01:15
Hi there

Just writing to apoolgosie for any confusion caused by the date change , to be honest it was a mistake on my part , so sorry for problems caused by it (doh!)

Hopefully the extend period will allow more people to enter the competition , the enteries we have had so far have been really good and I'm really excited by what people have managed to get out of Kubik , and I'm sure that any other enteries would be equally excellent

Happy New Yaar

Cheers

Jon : COFX

Just a though we didn't call it Kubik Komposition Kontest or something, the acroynm would have be very bad Smile
x_bruce
Posted: 4th January 2005 12:40
The site should have reflected the change, I don't know why it didn't but it does and has since the 5th of this month.

In any case, it should be a good chance to win Kubik and for whoever gets it, they will definately be happy with the skin in progress. It's Jon's best work and is quite inviting.

Good luck doing a compreshensive update, Jon. That'll take up a spot of time. I do hope you go the new direction as you've always had the goods but not as much the shiny package. With everything you should have a synth that'll probably replace my PPG Wave 2.v for the most part.
Muff Wiggler
Posted: 4th January 2005 13:30
Concretefx wrote:
Happy New Yaar


feeling a little piracy on the high seas, are we? HiHi
Concretefx
Posted: 4th January 2005 13:33
Well my birthday is International Talk like a Pirate Day (19th September), so it's just my pirate nature coming loose (yaar , avast etc)

Cheers

Jon
Concretefx
Posted: 5th January 2005 03:43
Avast (must stop talking like a pirate) .

I hate my Outlook Express Sad . Came down this morning to find the Outlook Express had deleted the folder which contained all the competition enteries , I've still got the .dbx file but I've download about half a dozen different programs and none can get the data. Anyone has any ideas for recovering emails from dbx files ?

So sorry to ask this , but could anyone who has entered the Kubik competition , please resend me either their mp3 or the link to their competition enteries , my apologies once again about this

Cheers

Jon : COFX
DwarfNebula
Posted: 5th January 2005 03:50
Concretefx wrote:

.....
I hate my Outlook Express Sad . Came down this morning to find the Outlook Express had deleted the folder which contained all the competition enteries , I've still got the .dbx file but I've download about half a dozen different programs and none can get the data. Anyone has any ideas for recovering emails from dbx files ?
...
Jon : COFX


maybe try this: http://www.mailnavigator.com/repair_dbx_files.html
Concretefx
Posted: 5th January 2005 03:53
Thanks for the tip , but I've tried that and when I try to load in the dbx file , nothing comes back . It is similar for all the other programs I've tried, I know there is something in the dbx file (it's 8mb) , but every program comes back that it's corrupted or it does find any emails Sad

I'm just scanning my computer at the moment with various virus / spyware detections progams just to make sure there isn't something unpleasent causing this , it might just be a computer glitch but it's still very annoying

Cheers

jon
DwarfNebula
Posted: 5th January 2005 04:00
another one, a collection of links on dbx (sum converters etc.):
http://www.misitio.ch/links/oe.html
Concretefx
Posted: 5th January 2005 04:22
Cheers for those links, I'll just have to try some of them (and figure out the german Smile )

Jon
rsmus7
Posted: 5th January 2005 05:28
maybe I can help you with the german, just write me what you cant understand (just copy the text or the words and post them or e-mail me)

I will try to translate what you need.
DwarfNebula
Posted: 5th January 2005 05:35
Concretefx wrote:

...(and figure out the german Smile )
...


most of the linked sites are in english. but if you have any problems just let us know.
Concretefx
Posted: 5th January 2005 06:06
It's no problem , as you say most are in English , but thanks for the offer Smile

Cheers

Jon : COFX
x_bruce
Posted: 6th January 2005 10:47
Any luck, Jon?
Concretefx
Posted: 6th January 2005 10:51
No I haven't managed to restore the old emails (darn thing) , so please if any body has entered and not email me could they email me again with their enteries

Cheers

Jon
Green Red Brownell
Posted: 6th January 2005 17:07
If you're up for trying a few more, trying a Google on "fix dbx file" turns up a *lot* of hits.

Also, I would suggest that you scan your file system for bad sectors, broken links, etc. If you're on Win XP, go to My Computer, right-click on the drive that contains the bad file, select Properties. In the Properties dialog, select the Tools tab, then select the Error-Checking button ("Check Now..."). Make sure you check the "automatically fix" and "scan for bad sectors" opotions, then say OK. You'll have to reboot to get the scan to happen (it'll happen before the Windows GUI comes up again).

The DBX file might actually be corrupted, and this is one way to try to fix it.

Good luck,

Green
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