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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:57 pm

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We're having a contest right here in our SR/eSoundz.com forum on KVR!

What is the contest?

To make your very own "music demo" of IK and Sonic Reality products.
Deadline: CLOSED February 28th, 2007 was the final date to turn in songs

VOTE IN THE POLL! Pick the person you think did the best job and if they have more than one demo then consider the one they have that's the best in your opinion. Voting will close on May 15th, 2007. GOOD LUCK!


Contestants to vote on in the poll above:

1. Pete Thorn - used AmpliTube 2 and Sonik Synth 2 http://www.sonicreality.com/squidscorner/Amplitube_2_userdemo.mp3

2. snb - My demo track loaded on my web, used Miroslav Philharmonik and other? :
http://clients.vitali-i.com/ User name: ik Password : ik

3. Left Headphone - My track was done in FLS6 with SampleTank 2XL. I did a rough mastering with T-Racks 24.

http://www.savefile.com/files/296206

Instrument list: Messed up Kool, Trance Gate 2, Stac Violins, Double Basses 2, Violas Section, Cellos 1, Acoustic Grand 2, Cresendo Brass Section

4. Reverend Rhythm -
EthnoHop
I used the Sonic Refill Vol. 14: Ethnic Instruments and the Sonic Refills Silver Bundle (Volumes 1-5).

http://www.4shared.com/file/7067387/a8236d42/EthnoHop.html

Vocal-Eze-ee
It contains sounds from the vocal refill (vol. 19), with a couple of keyboards from the 60s & 70s refill, and drums and a Mälstrom lead from the silver bundle.

http://www.4shared.com/file/11813911/996cb734/Vocal-Eze-ee.html

Show Me Your Glory
I used Sonic Refills Vol. 12, 13, & 14. I got the pads and the lead synth (a Mälstrom patch) from Sonic Refill Silver.

http://www.4shared.com/file/10857943/d680187e/Show_Me_Your_Glory.html

Longtime Chill
I used the 60's and 70's refill (vol. 10) for most of the sounds. I used Ed Green for the drums, and the Silver refill for the congas and the lead synth (a Mälstrom) at the end.

http://www.4shared.com/file/10969394/9cfea800/Longtime_Chill.html

5. Uptude 8 http://www3.telus.net/a6a69872/Its%20Later%20Than%20You%20Think.mp3
Sampletank 2 XL and Sonic Capsules

6. Gregjazz - made with Miroslav Philharmonik

http://www.gregjazz.com/upload/heroes%20unite.mp3

7. Shantar - http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=657125
The song is called "The Seven Wonders of the Ancient World".
Its Miroslav Philharmonik Choirs only. This song is called "THE COLOSSUS OF RHODES"...
The reverb I use is (as allways) the reverb from the Philharmonik player... http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=657125
The song is called "THE HANGING GARDENS OF BABYLON"
Listen to it here:
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=657125
Made with Miroslav Philharmonik and this time I thought I'd try T-RackS so I downloaded the demo and put a master effect on the outputbus. Since this is not a song within any spesific style (the demo-style maybe) I just called it "Miroslav Philharmonik Rhapsody".
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=657125


8. Beardedone - CalloftheWaves
I used SampleTank 2 with sounds from MiroSlav Philharmonik and Sonik Synth

http://www.beardedone.com/Music/BeardedoneIKMultomediaContest_CalloftheWaves.mp3

9. Nexxus Synth - Miroslav Philharmonik

http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?PID=946703&t=8342

10. Berfab - Click on SONIK SCIENCE here: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=668918

All bongos, cymbals and drums are from the REX RAW collection. No other loops are used. The rest are actual performances using the following IK/SR products:
Main Keys Rhythm and B3 patches: Sonik Synth 2
Piano, Bass, Flugelhorn: Sampletank 2.1
Steel Guitar: ST2.1 Guitar Collection Exp. Tank
Background Electric Guitar: ST2.1 Guitar Collection (one of the Metheny patches) fed through AT2
Reverb courtesy of CSR.

11. Bflav - http://www.soundclick.com/bflav

Give Them Just a Little Bit
All original
Samples are from esoundz free sounds
Dk Friggin Hey1
Funk effhat
Sonik Synth 2 Demo Presets
Close to yes
Gleeman
Perc Org SV
T-TackS (Stand Alone Demo)
Stereo Enhance
Telephone
Sonar 4
Pan
Volumn

12. Lance - Catch The Vibes

Flying Away

Life Is Hard

(Sonic Synth / SR stuff, Sonik Synth 2 Free, SampleTank 2 Free)

Lance Emmerich - Honshu

13. Bigg John - http://biggbaddjohn.googlepages.com/PunishYou3BiggJohn.mp3

14. Beergeek - Cubase SE3, 9 loops from RAW (and no other music live or otherwise), T-RackS, AT2 and CSR.
and also:
http://home.comcast.net/~beergeek/YouKnowIneedYou.mp3

PTLE 7, Tracktion 2, 4 RAW loops, live bass w/AT1, CSR and T-RackS. I also used K2 to manipulate and play the REX loops.

Needs more cowbell!

Cubase SE3, 9 loops from RAW (and no other music live or otherwise), T-RackS, AT2 and CSR.

You know I need you

15. Solariss - SampleTank 2 XL
http://www.4shared.com/file/14626257/7afcd1/Up_River.html




Contest Rules:
Length of the demo:

The demo must be a minumum of 30 seconds long up to a maximum of 2 minutes in length.

Material you can use to make the demo:

You can ONLY use IK and Sonic Reality products to make the demo. The music can be any style of music or even multiple styles. The goal of the demo is to show off both your music performance or production chops and the variety of sounds in the various IK and SR products that you own. Even if you don't own certain products like AmpliTube 2 you can now go download the demo version from www.amplitube.com and use that to make your demo (and then you can possibly WIN a full version for yourself by doing a great job). Here is an example of what such a demo might sound like.

Here is the list of products you can use to make your IK/SR product demo.

AmpliTube 2
Ampeg SVX
CSR
T-Racks
SampleTank 2
Sonik Synth 2
Miroslav Philharmonik
Any Sonik Capsules or Expansion Tanks
Any Sonic Refills or Miroslav Refills
Any R.A.W. Style Pak, Universal Groove Kit or Gold Edition
Any downloadable sounds from www.esoundz.com
Any Loop Club grooves from www.esoundz.com
Any classic Sonic Reality sample libraries on www.esoundz.com

You can use any full version or demo versions of the above products.

The prizes:

First prize is a TOTAL STUDIO BUNDLE, a StealthPlug plus your choice of any of the Sonic Reality Gold Bundles: Sonic Refill Gold, Miroslav Refill Gold or R.A.W. Gold Edition.

Second prize is your choice of the TOTAL EFFECTS BUNDLE or the TOTAL WORKSTATION Bundle and your choice of Sonic Refills Silver or R.A.W. Universal Groove Kit.

Third prize is the R.A.W. Universal Groove Kit and a StealthPlug with AmpliTube 2 Live.


Judging: Perhaps the best part about this contest is that YOU are the judges.

Judging criteria: You want to judge based on sound quality, musicality, variety of tones or sounds used in the demo to show off the diversty of sound you can get from the products and/or the variety of musical styles to show the sounds and effects in different contexts. But ultimately it is YOU who judges these demos for how well they impress you and make you want to buy the products they are showing. For extra credit the first one who uses the largest variety of IK and SR products in their demo will get a 50 epointz as a separate bonus prize.

Other rules:

All candidates will have to agree to let us use these songs as "user demos" posted on esoundz as well as SR or IK websites (your name or KVR nick-your choice- will be credited). These songs can be instrumental or with vocal but they MUST be original compositions or public domain songs that are more than 70 years old (so many classical pieces are fine to do if you'd like). You must turn in your sequencer file, if asked, (Reason, ProTools, Cubase, Logic -whatever format it is) as "proof" that it is your work.

All specifications are subject to change at any time. Please check back to this initial first page in the thread for any additional rules.

Useful links:

www.esoundz.com (where you can buy IK and SR products. Join now because membership is FREE and you can download a lot of free sounds as well as pick individual downloadable sounds for SampleTank, refills and other formats)
www.amplitube.com (where you can download AmpliTube 2 demo version to use for this which is now dongleless)
www.ampegsvx.com (where by next week you can download a demo version of Ampeg SVX that will be dongleless!!!!)
www.tracks.com (demo version of TRacks available)
www.sampletank.com (SampleTank 2 Free, a demo version is available)
www.soniksynth.com (Sonik Synth 2 Free, a demo version is available)
www.iksounds.com
www.sonicrefills.com

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HelgeG - Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:00 pm

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Glengarry, Glen Ross

Excellent movie!

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:05 pm

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Well done. So what R.A.W Style Pak do you want? PM me your address. That was fast! Those are too easy I think. Still... great scene, great movie. I know the whole speech by heart actually.

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mellotronaut - Wed Nov 22, 2006 3:14 pm

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Sounds great, but how to proof, one just used the listed products. It's easier in Reason: one can submit a RNS or RPS file, but there are sooooo many hosts.
I use a lot of effect-chains in Reason for loop destruction. Can i use it? Or the m-class master effects: They arent from IK or Sonic Reality.

best/mello

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Reverend Rhythm - Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:00 pm

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This sounds like a lot of fun! Let the games begin!

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:12 pm

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Yeah you can use any effect in Reason but your sound sources must be only Sonic Reality Refills or SR Rexes. No stock sounds (even though SR actually did some of the stock sounds for Reason 3 but just to make things simple, use only the refills and rexes we've done separately).

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:13 pm

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Bring it on!

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:16 pm

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It's the holiday season so I think I will make this fun and give something away from time to time just to make it more interesting. So, the first person to post their submission gets $25. in epointz on www.esoundz.com Good luck! But remember that you can only make ONE submission.

Yes, I will add to the rule that you have to turn in your sequence file as proof. Good point.

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bduffy - Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:21 pm

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Damn! I wish I'd seen this earlier. Best scene in movie history, possibly. Too bad everything else Mamet made was crap!

I think I have enough IK stuff to pull this off...I want that Total Studio...drool...I'll have to give it a shot!

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t-willy - Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:57 pm

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just read about this in an email from esoundz - awesome!! i'll have to remember this when i get back from Florida after the weekend. gonna go visit some friends for Thanksgiving and then it's time to create the IK demo!!!

lates

t-willy

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uptude8 - Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:57 pm

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hmm...only 2 minutes? Most of my best pieces are anywhere from 3 to 5 minutes. Would they be considered?...or should I pear them down....or start again

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dgkenney - Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:15 pm

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O.K so I am late.

Can I at least get the steak knives?



Dan

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:22 pm

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The songs are not being judged for composition so you could just edit it down to the best bits within 2 minutes or do a new one. Up to you! But, the piece could be a verse and a chorus and fade. It could even just be a jam (not a song). Listen to the audio demo I posted as an example. Schitzo is GOOD in this case, changing up the sounds every 4-8 bars sometimes makes for a better DEMO showing off what sounds there are in a product. Could be annoying as a SONG but this isn't a "song contest". It's a user demo contest. If YOU were selling the products and wanted to show them in action according to what YOU like... pile it all in within 2 minutes and see if everyone likes it the best!

This should be fun and interesting. Feel free to ask me for tips guys. The one I just mentioned is a good one I think.

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:29 pm

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Sorry you're fired. You have, ALL you have is one week to regain your job. Oh do I have your attention now? Guy don't come into KVR unless he wants to talk about plug-ins. You think he came in here to get out of the rain? Put that Kantos DOWN! Software's for closers only. Is your name Dan? You call yourself a musician you son of a bitch? You see this Total Studio Bundle? This costs more than your car. What's my name? Squids! That's my name. You call this abuse? If you can't take this abuse how are you gonna take the abuse of people judging your demo in this contest? Sure, I can see you later on hanging at a bar "yeah, I used enter KVR demo contests. It's a tough racket". It takes Brass SampleTank patches to be in this business. They're out there WAITING to hear your demo. Are you gonna join the contest? Are you MAN enough to join the contest?

(anyone who doesn't know the movie thinks I am the meanest person right now! lol... just go see the movie! It's the Alec Baldwin scene. One of the best scenes ever. I know I jumbled that around but it was on the fly. If I had more time I could make it better... had to cut out most of the bad words though... this here's a family forum... sort of... ).

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bduffy - Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:34 pm

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We knew that was coming!! "Brass SampleTank patches"!!

Man, you know you're a geek when that's funny to you.

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:38 pm

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No way! It means you have a TOP sense of humor and good taste in movies m8!

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beergeek - Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:41 pm

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Whoa....Squids been into da eggnog a little early this year

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bduffy - Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:42 pm

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Oh yes! That's what I meant.

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dgkenney - Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:03 pm

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Screw off, Dave. You know you got a big mouth. You make a couple of great products and this whole place stinks with your farts for a week - how much you just ingested. Oh, what a big man you are! Hey, let me buy you a pack of gum. I'll show you how to chew it. Whoof!

Dan

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Hewitt Huntwork - Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:20 pm

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I've always wanted Sonik Synth 2. Not because it's a great workstation plugin, but because I need those leads, the good leads, the Glengarry leads!

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harmony gardens - Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:23 pm

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After a turkey dinner, he'll sleep like a baby. I'm gonna enter this contest Squids,,, I have nerves of steel.

Happy Thanksgiving!!!!

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Squids - Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:14 pm

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Oh big man! Dan Pacino! lol Good stuff!!!

Hey you know apparently the Alec Baldwin scene isn't even in the play! It's just in the movie. Imagine that. The whole movie seems to be BASED on that key speech. I never saw the play. I did see Alec do a version of it on SNL where he is talking to Santa's elves "I've got no sympathy for ya". Someone should find at least that on youtube and post a link in here. It has to be there!

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dgkenney - Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:13 am

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Enjoy.....

But remember the coffee is for the closers..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-AXTx4PcKI



Dan

P.S. You may not want to play it if the little kiddies are around

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Squids - Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:37 am

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Seems like you've done your homework Huntwork! Well done.

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Trojan Badger - Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:49 am

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Can you just clear something up - we can use AT2 and Ampeg, but do we have to play an IK/SR sample through it, or can we play a real instrument?

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uptude8 - Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:50 am

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my wife will probably kill me...doing this through the holidays and all....oh well...since a few of these goodies are on my Xmas list it might be a good thing!

show off the sounds and the plug-ins...K...got it.

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Squids - Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:43 pm

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You can play a real instrument through it such as a guitar or bass... in fact, you can use real drums too and real vocals! You just can't use any other company's samples if you are using samples. But, you don't HAVE to use samples, you don't have to use any SR stuff. You could just use IK effect plug-ins on real instruments if you wanted to. Or you could use all SR and/or IK samples if you wanted too. You do get some points for the most IK and SR products used in your demo but ultimately it is the best sounding demo, most impressive etc. that will win.

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Squids - Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:45 pm

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Is it to short a time for the contest? Maybe we could let it go for a month or two so people have enough time to put one together? I'm open to it. I just thought it would be a fun thing to do over the holidays (plus some nice presents as prizes ). Let me know your thoughts.

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snb - Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:44 pm

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2 Squids

My demo track loaded on my web :
http://clients.vitali-i.com/

User name: ik
Password : ik

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Reverend Rhythm - Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:49 pm

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Wow!

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Left Headphone - Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:59 pm

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My track was done in FLS6 with SampleTank 2XL. I did a rough mastering with T-Racks 24.

http://www.savefile.com/files/296206

Instrument list:
Messed up Kool
Trance Gate 2
Stac Violins
Double Basses 2
Violas Section
Cellos 1
Acoustic Grand 2
Cresendo Brass Section

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telebunke - Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:14 am

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I'm not sure about the policy concerning the effects. Does that mean I cannot treat my vocals with my UAD-1 plugins, even if everything else comes from Sampletank?

tele

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BERFAB - Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:33 am

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I think that's the idea. 100% IK/SR.

-B

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Squids - Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:55 am

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Correct. No UAD plug-ins. Use T-Racks (or TRacks demo) instead!

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beergeek - Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:00 pm

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Hey Squids....what about hardware in the signal path pre-computer?

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telebunke - Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:22 pm

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And what about reverb? The CSR demo is gone after 30 starts or 10 days. Well, I gues one can install the CSR demo when the arrangement is complete and starting work on the final mix.
One could also load a vocal .wav file into sampletank and use it's internal effects.

tele

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t-willy - Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:47 pm

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when was the deadline again?

lates

t-willy

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Squids - Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:52 pm

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Try to limit it to mics, mic pres, acoustic or electric instruments (non-sample based)... if you use any kind of limiter/compressor on vocals going in that's fine if it is to get optimal S/N but try not to use it too much as an effect itself. No stomp boxes, DSP effects racks in hardware for this... break out your AmpliTube 2 (or demo version download is fine too if you don't have it... yet! Remember you could WIN it!).

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Squids - Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:55 pm

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Right. Well, ideally you should try to use the CSR for your reverb. But, if your demo runs out you can also use the built-in reverb of your DAW which is okay, also delays and basic stuff like that. Just don't use any other third party plug-ins though or it misses the point of this. You're making what you would show as a demonstration of what can be done with all the good IK and SR products there are out there. It's enough to make a complete song with for sure and in almost any style of music from hip hop to classical. So, since each person has different tastes it should be very interesting to see what people come up with rising to the challenge!

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Squids - Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:58 pm

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I think we're going to extend the deadline to give people more time because of the holidays. I am open. How long do you guys need you think? A few months? Should we draw this out so we get some really good ones? Maybe so. Even if you buy the products in the meantime and then win it you can always just sell it so... plus the fun of playing and a moment of fame too because we'll tell thousands of people to check out the winners (and even a lot of famous engineers and producers will hear it as well... dont' want to say you'll get a record deal or anything but you could get some attention if you win! IK might post the winners too!)

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keyman_sam - Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:42 pm

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Please Squids, make this a few months. I have exams right now and I desperately want to participate in the kvr contest and this contest.

And I'm sure many people, unlike me (),have a life and will go out and do something for the christmas. For those peeps, you need to give some time.

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snb - Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:39 pm

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Few MONTHS .

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Reverend Rhythm - Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:46 am

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How 'bout a month? Something like January 1 or 7?

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beergeek - Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:04 am

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That is precisely what I use pre-computer! PreSonus TUBEPre and COMP16 for vocals, acoustic and as a DI for my Tele.

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beergeek - Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:06 am

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Oh yeah forgot...extending it is a good thing but even if you extended it for a year it wouldn't guarentee I'd get anything done

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snb - Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:29 am

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I changed reverb and mixing in my demo:

http://clients.vitali-i.com/

User name: ik
Password : ik

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pquenin - Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:46 pm

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Well, I don't know if I will have enought time to participate. I own Sampletank 2 L, Amplitube 2 Live (with the Stealthplug), Amplitube 1, so I can use them in Tracktion 2.1 (that come with the Stealthplug). I wanted to use the CSR demo for the contest but I saw this : IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A SYNCROSOFT USB KEY YOU CAN NOT RUN THE CSR DEMO.
Too bad.

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beergeek - Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:04 pm

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Hey Squids,

Maybe you should do a thread that is ONLY for submissions, one for voting when the time comes and one just for comments.

I wouldn't want my masterpiece getting lost in the thread

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woodie - Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:41 pm

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sir squids - this would have been a great thread to kick off the new IK forum you keep hinting at.

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woodie - Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:48 pm

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by the way...what's the catch for those of us who already have the Total Studio Bundle!? i guess notoriety....?

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Squids - Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:18 pm

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Well, we're going to extend this for a few months to give everyone time. I think you're right though. We won't do the voting thread until later but a submission only thread would be good. In the meantime you can submit it here via a link.

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Squids - Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:21 pm

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Aha! Good point. We'll put this thread there when that arrives as well which should help a little competitiones. But the contest will be hosted here on KVR either way I think... unless it migrates beyond!

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Squids - Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:22 pm

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Yeah and you can of course sell the whole thing when/if you win it if you already have it.

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Beardedone - Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:13 am

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I have a whole bunch of IKM instruments and FX plus many of the SR libraries for SampleTank and Kontakt. So, I am up for this comp in intent but not unfortunately not in spirit : My muse has completely left me and I not sure I can come up with even a half reasonable track. But it's worth an effort and so, to quote Yul Brenner via Billy Crystal "I will try".

Good luck everyone.

Gordon

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keyman_sam - Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:32 am

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I have the drum refills and thats it. My track is gonna be all boom booosh woosh ding dang dong tadadaada ching chak ching chak ching ching tak tak *cowbell* tak tak dusshhhhh

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dgkenney - Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:44 am

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I thought covers weren't allowed.

Dan

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Squids - Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:10 pm

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If I was allowed to enter the contest I would do a finger drum solo!

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snb - Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:01 pm

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Studiodad - Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:34 pm

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I'm still waiting for the multi-gig woodblock sample library that you promised us Dave!

That was a classic!

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telebunke - Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:46 am

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Did I get that rightt, one can only submit 1 song?
But I would love to also do a vocals only thing, using T-RackS and CSR only. What could show the quality of EQ, compression and reverb better than a plain vocal harmony line?

But that would leave me without a chance of posting an example containing instruments.

Squids, please don't limit the show to 1 submission.

tele

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telebunke - Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:16 pm

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how many tunes can be filed for the contest?
I suggest to allow up to 3.

tele

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Squids - Mon Dec 04, 2006 1:50 pm

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I was thinking one. What do you guys think?

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Left Headphone - Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:12 pm

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One song would make it easier for the judges.

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telebunke - Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:21 pm

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Let the judges sweat, that's fine.

There should be a limit. On the other hand, it's good to be able to file 2 or three. So one can deliver a broader view of what one does with the IK products. And therefore it might reselt it more great demo mp3s for IK, too. Just an idea, though.

tele

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woodie - Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:01 pm

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i agree with the fellas - no limit on tunes as long as they were produced with IK stuff. then the judges BLIND-listen to the tunes and pick the 1st, 2nd, 3rd place, runner-up songs and then to reveal the artist. if the artist was picked twice...then they can pick the next one in line.

this obviously would result in more submissions and as long as the artist would agree to it....use them as demo songs on their site (artist given credit of course!).

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TeleJuan - Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:17 pm

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So what's the deadline for the constest? I got me some sounds and a mini profile yesterday just for the demo contest but I'm going on vacation for 3 weeks and I won't be able to finish until late december/early january...

By the way, here goes my vote for only one submition per person....

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keyman_sam - Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:25 pm

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my vote also goes for one submission per person. makes it easy on the judges AND you.

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BERFAB - Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:49 pm

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I vote for one. Pick your best and go with it.

-B

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Squids - Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:13 pm

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The contest is for you guys so we can give you as much time as you all want! I was thinking go until February 1st? This way there's some post holiday time to give it a shot.

What do you think? One entry? Let's say this. A compromise. You can post demos, works in progress and see what people say. Then to submit your demo officially we will do some kind of form or you just have to tell us "okay this is the one I want to submit" and then that's it! No changing. Sound fair? On the other hand I am not opposed to people doing as many demos as they want and it increasing their chances of winning potentially as well... if you guys as a group lean one way or the other I am okay with going with what most of you want. We could do a poll perhaps.

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telebunke - Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:17 am

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a poll is a good suggestion, squids.

tele

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TeleJuan - Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:46 am

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February 1st is great! Thanks Squids

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t-willy - Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:12 am

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dammit, now i won't get started until January 31st.....

lates

t-willy

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telebunke - Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:00 am

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Agreed.

tele

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Lance - Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:45 am

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Squids, it would be nice to extend the maximum length if only one entry is allowed.

2 minutes is too limiting to my creativity. It breaks the counterpoint or the verse or the intro or the outro or the whatever of my hit song. Really.

I'd suggest 10/3 [10 years of IK, 3 grand prizes] = 3.3333' minutes = 3:20 [average airplay length].

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snb - Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:26 am

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So long!!! I think receive a prize for Holiday much more interestingly and more pleasantly, than to wait till February so with mind to descend it is possible. I do not know who must to win, and let win most worthy, but to wait so much time, this is horror!!! Personally it seems to me of one demo quite. Dave if you have created rules why change them in process and if people will tell to finish in next June or August, you will transfer competition for such terms? For example there is a competition on some site : "Send the remix on such artist and it will be released on cd". Nobody begins to change rules in process and will write, send 5 remixes and then together we shall select, that has more cool.What sense of competition? Choose one from 5 demos or that the person has sent one qualitative demo where it has enclosed all skill. And still, writed: create/compose a demo for 30 seconds till 2 minutes. I really shall not understand, why so a lot of time is necessary. In competition not writed create "soundtrack for SpiderMan 3, and best composition will be played in movie". After competition best demos will not go to play on all radio-stations or parties. It is necessary create a demo, that it would show opportunities programs from companies IK and Sonic Reality. Certainly, it is necessary to create a beautiful demo, but not up to such degree that has taken so much time.

I apologize if has gone too far in the the statement. Somehow all this not serious.

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Reverend Rhythm - Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:03 pm

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Not to go against snb, but this is all fine with me. I really like the
"post a demo of your demo" idea. I hope all of this stays fun.

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snb - Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:38 pm

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Certainly I not in serious have written before. But it is simple when are given dates, the person is hope on them. Well, if people are not have a time - we shall wait till February. As my familiar teacher on drawing / art " speaks the main thing it not painfully ".
Maybe you will not understand my humour but if transfer it on Russian it is clear sounds ridiculously.


P.S. I don't know who must to get prizes, I found many professionals on ESOUNDZ forum. For example orchestral composition of Gregjazz from topic "My orchestral work". Very greate composition and professional.

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Sascha Franck - Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:42 pm

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1st of february? Cool, that way I can try out all the demos and do some stuff with them when I'm touring - will have plenty of time then, and of course my mini studio is always with me.

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pquenin - Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:53 pm

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My vote is : 1st of february, one submission per person, maximum length 2 minutes.

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Lance - Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:34 pm

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My vote is; 1st of February, any number of submission per person, whatever length.

For example Nexus has a half an hour factory demosong made by a professional. And that is a very good one for the purpose; to sell and to sell the product.

Don't you have confidence to make other noise than a snippet? Doesn't IK/SR have enough talented users, who able to make stunnig musical works for this contest? I wanna express myself with my music. Although I could easily make music in whatever length, but I'd like to extend or leave the length limit, so that way my entry could be a complete song, not just a snippet of a song.

I am poor and very sick [suffering with terminal Chron disease]. My monthly income is very low, my only chance to get some high quality IK/SR stuff to win it by writing a song from the deep of my heart using all my skills I have.

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telebunke - Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:52 pm

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My vote is:
1st of February,
any numnber of submissions,
and I don't care about the length issue.

tele

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Reverend Rhythm - Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:58 pm

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OK! I would like to throw out my demo of my demo for your consideration.

http://www.4shared.com/file/7067387/a8236d42/EthnoHop.html

I used the Sonic Refill Vol. 14: Ethnic Instruments and the Sonic Refills Silver Bundle (Volumes 1-5) in reason. I mixed it in Acid.

Tell me what you think. I plan it edit it some more, but I thought that maybe I could get something going.

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snb - Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:33 pm

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2 Reverend Rhythm

I listened your demo. Nice music.

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telebunke - Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:42 am

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hey Reverend

nice basis for some Ethno HipHop, well done.

tele

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zircon - Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:29 pm

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Hey, is there still time to enter this, Squids?

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mellotronaut - Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:51 pm

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dead-line seems to be feb the 1st

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uptude8 - Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:57 pm

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Folks,

Well...it's Xmas and I have absolutely no time for this...but here is something I put together that I would like to submit. In my opinion, not a real product demo, just a portion of something I wrote a while back using ST2 Drums and Sonic Capsules for Bass and Guitar. As mentioned, not a great product demo...but no time to do anything new at the moment. Here are the links for the mp3 and the midi file.

Cheers

uptude8

http://www3.telus.net/a6a69872/Later Than You Think

http://www3.telus.net/a6a69872/Later Than You Think Midi

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Squids - Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:08 am

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Yes there's still time to enter. I guess we'll do a compromise and say that there's a max of 5 songs each has to be under 5 minutes long (so do an edit and fade if it is a song that is longer). Prefered demo length though is still 1-2 minutes. I would only do 4-5 if it is a song that needs to be heard that way or if it just evolves and something exciting happens in the last 2 minutes!

But there is a catch. In each of your maximum of 5 sumbissions they must be different musical styles and/or at least use different sounds.

Fair compromise? You have until February 1st. Feel free to post your unofficial submissions now and then soon we will have a way to submit your official ones. In the meantime go make some music with your SR and IK stuff (including the free demos).

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Reverend Rhythm - Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:30 pm

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uptude8,

Nice tune. I think it showed off the sounds well. I especially liked the panning (or was that an effect?) of the bass. It gave it motion.

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uptude8 - Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:51 pm

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Thanks Rev!

Yeah the motion feeling was just a mix of reverb and chorus on one of the fretless basses from the SR Bass capsule. If you want to hear the real version it is also on my website http://www3.telus.net/a6a69872/index.html

Cheers,

Dave

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uptude8 - Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:25 pm

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Hey Rev,

Liked Ethnohop a lot! Great use of the tools! I like your approach. I'm a jazz/fusion enthusiast myself and as I was listening to this piece I realized that both worlds are really not that far apart. Much praise! Keep it up!...and many thanks for your kind words.

Cheers

Dave (alias uptude8)

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uptude8 - Wed Dec 13, 2006 6:34 pm

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Hey Squids,

Please forgive if I have not caught all of the contest rule revisions...it's a long thread. Would it be possible to post a final version of the state of things somewhere central...ie...number of demos one can submit, drop dead date, voting procedures...and any other pertenant info

Cheers and Thanks!

Dave

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uptude8 - Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:25 pm

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uptude8 - Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:28 pm

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um, lets try that again. If 5 mins is the thing here is the whole tune.

http://www3.telus.net/a6a69872/Its Later Than You Think

Sorry about that!

Dave

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telebunke - Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:39 am

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OK here's my lyrics-only contribution to the contest



tele

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harmony gardens - Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:08 am

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Cute!

It seems to me that we should keep the number of submissions low, so we have time to give each contestant a fair consideration. Perhaps different catagories, such as, Orchestral, Dance, Ballad,,,etc. Just a few thoughts,,,,

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Gregjazz - Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:33 pm

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Here's my entry, made entirely with Miroslav Philharmonik:

Heroes Unite

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Reverend Rhythm - Mon Dec 18, 2006 4:37 pm

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Greg raises the bar! Nice job!

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Beardedone - Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:07 pm

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This is unbelieveably good, Gregjazz. I think I will have to bow out. My unfinished little ditty pales in comparison.

Gordon

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DonovanC - Tue Dec 19, 2006 5:21 pm

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Question - Do we have to mix using only IK products also or is that fair game?

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