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mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:55 pm

It's available for download here

http://www.uvisoundsource.com/

Reverse Engineer - Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:00 pm

Will this install any protection related stuff, such as pace or whatever?

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:05 pm

yes it needs to install the pace drivers.

Reverse Engineer - Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:07 pm

Cheers. Looked good too.

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:07 pm

If your machine already has PACE drivers for another product, will this install ANOTHER set of drivers? Or just ammend the ones that are there?

Brent

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:08 pm

koolkeys wrote:

If your machine already has PACE drivers for another product, will this install ANOTHER set of drivers? Or just ammend the ones that are there?

Brent

it uses the standard pace installer which only installs the pace drivers if necessary

bduffy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:35 pm

Wow, does that ever look cool! Downloading now. Very Happy

bailees7irish - Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:34 pm

when does the beta expire? any initial limitations? thanks..

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:56 pm

there's absolutely no limitations and no expiration date.

Quote:

Univers Sons introduces UVI Workstation: a FREE, advanced universal software instrument workstation, and UVISoundsource.com: a NEW sound download website dedicated to the UVI community

for more press release information:
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/Univers-Sons-UVI-Workstation-Public-Beta.html

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:03 pm

So is this going to be a free player that you buy sounds to fill it with? Kind of like the Kore Player? I like that idea, even though I use Kontakt for mostly all of my samples.

Brent

beej - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:04 pm

So if it's free, why does it need Pace/iLoks..?

I'm not sure exactly what this product is - presumably a player vehicle to sell sound packs, which get licensed via Pace/iLoks..?

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:08 pm

That's what I'm getting. The only reason I didn't mind PACE is because I have another plug that I use that has it already(that I didn't know had it when I installed, but I liked the plug a lot). So it wasn't a big deal. And it doesn't need an iLok, just the PACE driver.

But I do wonder why something free needs copy protection. My guess is that there will be commercial products that will hang on that license or something, like soundsets.

Also, I'm downloading now. But can you turn OFF the "feature" where you automatically get updates from the website? I don't really mind too much, but some people will hate that.

Brent

bduffy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:11 pm

Whoops! The dll won't load in any of my hosts (Cubase SX 3, Cantabile), it just makes them go "poof!" and vanish. Anyone else having problems?

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:19 pm

Downloading the soundbank now. Work internet is a bit slower download than my home line, so it's taking a bit.

Brent

bduffy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:22 pm

Cool. Let me know when you got it installed. I'm playing with the standalone, and it's really cool; sets a new standard in GUI sexiness and it's easy as hell to use. Great sounds, too.

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:29 pm

koolkeys wrote:

So is this going to be a free player that you buy sounds to fill it with?
Brent

exactly, that's the idea of the upcoming uvisoundsource download site.

UVI Workstation is a workstation with an unlimited number of parts, it's also a full featured loop tool that lets you Drag and Drop your own phrases, REX, apple loops... You can create and edit modulations, midi learn every parameter, add FXs... Create you own multis...

So really not just a soundpack player limited to 1 part and 8 knobs... Smile

bduffy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:30 pm

mdsp, this thing is really cool! I'm having a blast playing with it right now, and I haven't even explored the REX features yet. Consider me very interested... Cool

It keeps crashing, though. Is there a beta forum or something to report problems?

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:35 pm

mdsp wrote:

koolkeys wrote:

So is this going to be a free player that you buy sounds to fill it with?
Brent

Hmm, so the FREE version of the player will forever manage your loops without having to pay anything? If so, that's really cool.

Brent

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:35 pm

koolkeys wrote:

Also, I'm downloading now. But can you turn OFF the "feature" where you automatically get updates from the website? I don't really mind too much, but some people will hate that.

Well there's nothing to be really worried about, it's just a plain RSS feed that is only checked once at UI opening. We've tried ou best to keep it non-intrusive and informative.

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:36 pm

bduffy wrote:

Whoops! The dll won't load in any of my hosts (Cubase SX 3, Cantabile), it just makes them go "poof!" and vanish. Anyone else having problems?

That's the reason why this is still a public beta and not a final release. We didn't expected crashes so early though... Smile

did you restarted your machine before running it for the first time?

Agitator - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:37 pm

bduffy wrote:

Whoops! The dll won't load in any of my hosts (Cubase SX 3, Cantabile), it just makes them go "poof!" and vanish. Anyone else having problems?

yes! same problem with FL Studio 8 and a Demo of Samplitude Music Studio 2008!

only stand-alone works! Sad

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:38 pm

bduffy wrote:

mdsp, this thing is really cool! I'm having a blast playing with it right now, and I haven't even explored the REX features yet. Consider me very interested... Cool

It keeps crashing, though. Is there a beta forum or something to report problems?

please report bugs, crashes... to publicbeta@uvisoundsource.com

bduffy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:42 pm

mdsp wrote:

bduffy wrote:

Whoops! The dll won't load in any of my hosts (Cubase SX 3, Cantabile), it just makes them go "poof!" and vanish. Anyone else having problems?

That's the reason why this is still a public beta and not a final release. We didn't expected crashes so early though... Smile

did you restarted your machine before running it for the first time?

Uhhhmmm....neeooooo.... Scared

I'll reboot and see if it goes away (or not, rather).

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:44 pm

if the standalone is working, it's not necessary to reboot.

bduffy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:47 pm

mdsp wrote:

if the standalone is working, it's not necessary to reboot.

Ah. It's working. I just crashed it by cycling through the playback-type settings in the Loop screen. I think I'll reboot just to make sure.

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:00 pm

Well, two crashes so far for me. First in standalone mode, I clicked to load one of the brush drum loops and it crashed.

Next, it crashed while Cakewalk 7 Producer Edition was scanning plugins. It stopped on the plugin and then crashed.

Brent

shogger - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:04 pm

Full crash when scanning the plugin, even after reboot. Looks very promising though, and more because it's coming from you. Smile

BTW, thanx a lot for livecut, it has a fixed place in my VSTplugins folder. Will there be a version 1.0? Sorry for the OT.

Shogger

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:04 pm

Ok, it actually didn't crash Sonar, but just the VSTScan.exe program. Of course, that means that it ignores the plugin the next time and I can't use it in Sonar.

Brent

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:09 pm

Ok, it also crashes Tracktion 3, latest version, while scanning.

Brent

zerocrossing - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:15 pm

This will be great (looking for something to replace a Roland XV-5050) if it pans out but Live 7 doesn't even see the vst.

How much will the monthly subscription be? Razz

mdsp - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:15 pm

thanks for the crash reports we'll try to fix that ASAP. And don't hesitate to send detailed report to publicbeta@uvisoundsource.com

as for livecut 1.0, yes it's still planned and completely redesigned (both UI and dsp) but things go slowly since I'm doing it only during spare time...

bduffy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:23 pm

email sent.

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:26 pm

I have a debugger crash text file that I'll send over from my Sonar crash.

Brent

Bubbamusic - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:38 pm

Crashed all three of my VSTi hosts - too bad.

beej - Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:50 pm

In the standalone, I can reproducibly crash by loading a sample, switching the filter to Analog LP, and then switching it back to OFF.

Macbook Pro 2.4, Mac OSX Leopard 10.5.3, 4gigs RAM

BFunKu - Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:00 pm

Does the 85mb Download already come with some sort of Factory SoundBank? I would sure hope so it is 85mb. What else would take up that much space other than Samples/Patches? If the Engine itself is 85mb without any Sounds/Samples then that's a Joke. Shrug

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:08 pm

It comes with a tutorial soundbank. But for the actual demo bank you need to download the one that is 480MB or so.

Brent

robojam - Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:11 pm

Reverse Engineer wrote:

Cheers. Looked good too.

Ditto. Don't want that crap on my hard drive.

BFunKu - Wed Jun 18, 2008 7:22 pm

Should Be Called "CrashTime" Laughing

Hybernation - Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:00 pm

on my quad-core PC, stand-alone worked ok. Played REX files from Sonic Reality ok. Played around with the Demo soundbank. Ok, but nowhere near as good as the free Kore bank, IMO.

hosts:
1) crashed Energy XT 1.4 upon instantiation
2) crashed Energy XT 2 upon instantiation
3) crashed Tracktion3 during VST scan. Relaunched Tracktion, it was in the ignore list. removed from ignore list, rescan...crash
4) Sonar 7 PE - never got Sonar to recognize it after repeated tries
5) Reaper 2.x (latest) - same as Sonar

How did the other Sonar uses get Sonar to see it. I did repeated scans, moved it in and out of directory, etc. Is it named something weird in the list of all plugins and I'm just not seeing it?

I don't understand how a company that has made good solid VSTi's in the past can release something, even a Beta, that doesn't seem to work in any VST host!

MaxSynths - Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:39 pm

Quote:

"I don't understand how a company that has made good solid VSTi's in the past can release something, even a Beta, that doesn't seem to work in any VST host!"

Agree. I'm confused about all these crash reports

hibidy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:28 pm

question, does this have anything to do with the ultimate sound bank company?

MaxSynths - Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:29 pm

hibidy wrote:

question, does this have anything to do with the ultimate sound bank company?

I think the answer is "yes"... Confused

MacQ - Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:16 pm

Instant crash of FL8 here, too. Nice to see a re-written graphics system, since the last one was buggy as shit on every PC I tried.

Hopefully this thing will actually get bug-fixed, so I can use my Synths Anthology and Plugsound Pro sounds ... since I did pay for them. Usually when a "public beta" is announced, that's after the "internal beta". But then, what do I know?

~Stu

C-note - Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:46 pm

Crashed Everything as VST - runs ok as stand alone and I like but...not a good start if you want people to take it seriously Uh Uh Uh

Crashes:
KORE
FL8
Tracktion 3
Cubase4.1
Phrazor
XT2
Live 6,7
Reaper

Major issues it seems when not one host will load it...or maybe just a bad build? Shrug

workworker - Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:54 pm

On my duo-core the public beta standalone works o. K.

- Reaper does not find the uvi workstation
- Cubase SL3 find the uvi workstation during VST-scanning, but then break off the program start.

It is bad. I must uninstall the uvi workstation

ww

hibidy - Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:58 pm

I'm not sure how to word it.

The uvi engine has given many folks grief, if this is USB like plugsound pro and such, I'm not surprised at the problems.

I wish there was a perminent sticky on these guys and what they have done to paying customers (I'm in about 450 usd with the stuff I bought, but there are hundreds who are pissed)

I would plead that anyone else please do not be guinea pig for this experiment.

koolkeys - Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:03 pm

hibidy wrote:

question, does this have anything to do with the ultimate sound bank company?

Some of the demo sounds are actually from the original UVI Player that had free sounds(NOT Plugsound Free, but the later one).

Also, somebody asked who was able to get it to show in Sonar. I didn't. It wouldn't even come up in the available plugins to add to the menu. It just crashed and next time around considered it a "failed" plugin so it didn't try to scan it again until I checked the box to "Rescan failed plugins".

Brent

otristan - Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:56 pm

MacQ wrote:

That's the plan regarding the use of PlugsoundPro Sound and other UVI Soundcard like Synth anthology.

Regarding the internal beta, there was a pretty one.
The VST PC issue should be a stupid thing and will be fixed as soon as possible (hopefully today)

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:01 am

hibidy wrote:

We have rewrote everything for this new software.
Both UI and audio engine.
We are now using Juce as our UI toolkit and this should fix all the PC graphic related issues.
Regarding the audio engine, it's way faster and way more stable.

If you prefer, just wait for the final release, but we have preferred that after an internal beta test to do a public one to catch more issues before releasing the official 1.0.

Fixing those kind of bugs before the final release is our top priority.

Sascha Franck - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:03 am

Ok, it's working as a plugin under Logic 8 but I could easily reproduce the crash beej mentioned. Switch filter to LP, then try to switch it off -> Poof!
I'm mailing the crashlog as we speak.

Seems to be crash city for almost anybody so far.

However, from what I can tell so far, I find the demo content to be a bit limited, especially considering it's a whooping 400+ MB file.
Also, I'm not sure whether I'm too much impressed by the sound mangling options. Most likely not - but I'd have to give it another try to be sure.

And finally, how would I get rid of the PACE extension, should I want to? The installer starts a second installer setting up the PACE extension, and there's a note saying I should open the PACE installer mpkg and use the provided uninstaller. Just that there's no dedicated PACE mpkg or anything.
I think that this is something very critical and even if I may find out how to remove the extension, I can assure you that things like that will put quite some people off. There needs to be a dedicated uninstaller and after performing the uninstall my computer should be as clean as a baby's ass.

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:04 am

zerocrossing wrote:

This will be great (looking for something to replace a Roland XV-5050) if it pans out but Live 7 doesn't even see the vst.

How much will the monthly subscription be? Razz

ah ah. Don't worry there is no VIP club whatsoever Wink

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:11 am

Sascha Franck wrote:

And finally, how would I get rid of the PACE extension, should I want to? The installer starts a second installer setting up the PACE extension, and there's a note saying I should open the PACE installer mpkg and use the provided uninstaller. Just that there's no dedicated PACE mpkg or anything.
I think that this is something very critical and even if I may find out how to remove the extension, I can assure you that things like that will put quite some people off. There needs to be a dedicated uninstaller and after performing the uninstall my computer should be as clean as a baby's ass.

We can't add it in our installer because other apps may use those interlok extension like Protools.
Not sure for example that digidesign remove those when you uninstall Protools, but it's digidesign so Smile

However I think you can grab an explicit PACE extension uninstaller from PACE.

Sascha Franck - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:21 am

otristan wrote:

However I think you can grab an explicit PACE extension uninstaller from PACE.

Points taken.
Anyways, in that case you should come up with a link for people who may want to uninstall PACE.
I'm sure I can find it (if there is one) or get rid of the extension otherwise, but I still think it'd be in your best interest to make both installing and uninstalling a flawless experience, even for the less computer challenged folks.
For now, I'll keep it installed and see what you folks come up with in the next beta.
Fwiw, my crashlog should be in your inbox already.

c0pasetik - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:25 am

Tristan great to hear from you - I'd honestly though you guys were out of the business. Even your kvr forum seemed to disappear. I emailed you guys asking if you were still in business and didn't get a reply. Tell me, When, or CAN, we still expect BEAT inc????? Many of us have been anxiously waiting. Will it be written with this new engine you speak of? Also, there was supposed to be a library that came out with very expressing instruments. What about that?????

otristan wrote:

hibidy wrote:

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:45 am

c0pasetik wrote:

Out of business.. of course not.
We're just very very busy guys.

We were very annoyed regarding PlugsoundPro and especially PC issues.
We knew that we couldn't come up with a quick fix as the main problem was related to UI compatibility issues linked to the OpenGL use and that meant to rewrote the whole UI so we have preferred a radio silent. Sorry about that.

This whole rewrite is now done as well as a faster and more stable audio engine.
Regarding current UVIWorkstation issues, I will say that's why it's still beta Smile

Concerning Beat, I can only say that we are working on it, it will used the new engine and is way more powerful that we first wanted to do, so it takes way much time.

Regarding very expressing instruments, if you meant the IRCAM solo instrument then it should be release shortly.

c0pasetik - Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:53 am

Thank you so much tristan - I really appreciate your quick response - can't wait for beat inc and Icram - By the way I have an issue - I have PS Pro and all shound banks - But recently lost my Ilok. I lok will only reisssue a full license to the new Ilok I purchased from them with your consent. Will you guys be able to assist me with this asap. I rather not go the route of the 0 down time option because its 30 bucks a year. PLEASE HELP - My email address is sjjacob321@hotmail.com

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:04 am

c0pasetik wrote:

Please send an email to techsupport@ultimatesoundbank.com
We should be able to found an happy ending to this issue.

Thanks,

c0pasetik - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:08 am

Tristan - You're the man - Thanks again my friend.

Sascha Franck - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:13 am

Fwiw, the thing is stealing some keycommands under Logic 8. So far I noticed backspace isn't working as long as the UVI GUI is opened - even if backspace doesn't seem to actually do something.

Further, I'm sure this could be a great REX player but I had no sound from a couple of loops once I mapped them and dragged the MIDI file into my arrange, for no apparent reasons (I always used "slot" 1 and didn't change anything regarding MIDI settings or so). Gotta invest a bit further into that once the new version is ready to be downloaded.

Lotuzia - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:47 am

Sascha Franck wrote:

+1

In fact the exact reason why I I didn't install the beta. To see if people would run into these kind of problems.

Thanks Sascha for testing Wink

This said the Vsti seems interesting.

On the site is mentioned that the format is opened to 3rd party libs. Didn't find more information though. For example, does this require a licence for the engine ? Does this mean any eventual expansion should be accessible thru Usb site ? etc If someone form Usb want to comment this ... Wink

The comment area is very nice. Usefull to transmit info on a given instrument to user. Love

My two cents

LtZ

MrTom - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:58 am

Will there be any upgrade plans for Plugsound Pro owners?
I spent ~400 Euros for the old version and extensions and was not able to use it at all. As an addon you did not allow me to resell it.

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:58 am

Lotuzia wrote:

On the site is mentioned that the format is opened to 3rd party libs. Didn't find more information though. For example, does this require a licence for the engine ? Does this mean any eventual expansion should be accessible thru Usb site ? etc If someone form Usb want to comment this ... Wink

The comment area is very nice. Usefull to transmit info on a given instrument to user. Love

My two cents

LtZ

Indeed, independent soundbank maker will be able to offer protected content for UVIWorkstation and sell those on the upcoming UVISoundSource store.

You will be able to easily attach comments and images to any presets of the soundbank.

If you want more information, drop an email to info@uvisoundsource.com.

mdsp - Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:02 am

the VST crash / not loading on PC is a very stupid bug related to corruption of the dll binary. Just to let you know while we fix it.

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:07 am

MrTom wrote:

Will there be any upgrade plans for Plugsound Pro owners?
I spent ~400 Euros for the old version and extensions and was not able to use it at all. As an addon you did not allow me to resell it.

UVIWorkstation is the upgrade and it's free.
The PlugsoundPro soundbank and all already released soundbanks already works in UVIWorkstation.

What you really paid for was the amazing PlugsoundPro soundbank, and you'll be able to keep on using it inside UVIWorkstation.
Same thing for other UVI Soundcard (Synth Anthology, Xtreme FX, Retro Organs, ...)

UVIWorkstation is not a small version of what was PlugsoundPro.
All features available in PlugsoundPro are available in UVIWorkstation and more.

We wanted to move to an open platform, easier to use and easier to access if you wasn't interested by the PlugsoundPro soundbank but wanted to have a more powerful player to use with other soundcard without buying both PSPro and the other soundcard
Here it is.

Let me know if you need more information or if I wasn't clear.

MrTom - Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:19 am

otristan wrote:

MrTom wrote:

Will there be any upgrade plans for Plugsound Pro owners?
I spent ~400 Euros for the old version and extensions and was not able to use it at all. As an addon you did not allow me to resell it.

UVIWorkstation is the upgrade and it's free.
The current PlugsoundPro soundbank already work in UVIWorkstation.

What you really paid for was the amazing PlugsoundPro soundbank, and you'll be able to keep on using it inside UVIWorkstation.
Same thing for other UVI Soundcard (Synth Anthology, Xtreme FX, Retro Organs, ...)

UVIWorkstation is not a small version of what was PlugsoundPro.
All features available in PlugsoundPro are available in UVIWorkstation and more.

We wanted to move to an open platform, easier to use and easier to access if you wasn't interested by the PlugsoundPro soundbank but wanted to have a more powerful player to use with other soundcard without buying both PSPro and the other soundcard
Here it is.

Let me know if you need more information or if I wasn't clear.

I did not know that I can use the old extensions. This is good news.

K-Slash - Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:59 am

Salut Olivier,

Can you tell us, what's up with the UVI soundcards.

I'm waiting for the piano card, but no news since it was announced...

By the way, this beta version does not recognize my Plugsound Pro soundbank UFS file Sad

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:08 am

K-Slash wrote:

What do you mean by does not recognize ?
We've just fixed an issue on PC where shortcut to a soundbank in the UVISoundbank folder was not recognized, so if you're using this, that may explain your issue.

If you PlugsoundPro.ufs is directly in C:\Program Files\UVISoundBanks, it is not recognized ?

If you're on mac, then there is no know issues. Still you have to copy an alias or the ufs itslef in /Library/Application Support/UVISoundbanks

Regarding the acoustic piano card there is no official release date yet.

Let me know how it goes.

K-Slash - Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:17 am

Thanks for the reply.

otristan wrote:

What do you mean by does not recognize ?

If you PlugsoundPro.ufs is directly in C:\Program Files\UVISoundBanks, it is not recognized ?

Let me know how it goes.

First, I'm using a PC.

And yes, my UFS file is in this directory. But the plugin only shows the demo soundbank and tutorial soundbank.

otristan wrote:

Regarding the acoustic piano card there is no official release date yet.

Okay thanks Smile

.

By the way :

1) What will be the upgrade procedure for Plugsound Pro users, because I have the authorization on my iLok, but if I switch to UVI Workstation, I'll need a new authorization right ?

2) Is it possible to add the option in the setup to chose the destination folder for the VST plugin and for the progam files ? (I have 2 hard disks, and one is only for audio programs and sound libraries, so I don't want to install the workstation on "C")

3) I can't click with the mouse on the "C7" note on the workstation's GUI, but thank god I can play it with my MIDI keyboard Smile

.

4) I got crackles while tweaking a knob and playing with my keyboard at the same time.

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:25 am

It may sound stupid but is your iLok key plugged in ?

Regarding your questions:

1) UVIWorkstation is free so do not require any additional authorization.
The PlugsoundPro authorization would still be required to load the PlugsoundPro soundbank in UIWorkstation.

2) We'll see what we can do about this for the VST Plugins directory.
Regarding the UVISoundbanks folder, you can just use shortcut for the UFS inside the UVISoundbank folder, so it won't take much size on your C harddrive.
However shortcuts don t work in the current version, but already fixed on our side.

3) We'll take a look. Can't live without C7;)

4) which knob ? MIDI one or UI one ?

K-Slash - Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:43 am

otristan wrote:

It may sound stupid but is your iLok key plugged ?

Well, it wasn't.

Work alright now Embarassed

otristan wrote:

1) UVIWorkstation is free so do not require any additional authorization.
The PlugsoundPro authorization would still be required to load the PlugsoundPro soundbank in UIWorkstation.

Got it.

otristan wrote:

2) We'll see what we can do about this for the VST Plugins directory.
Regarding the UVISoundbanks folder, you can just use shortcut for the UFS inside the UVISoundbank folder, so it won't take much size on your C harddrive.
However shortcuts don t work in the current version, but already fixed on your ide.

3) We'lle take a look. Can't live without C7;)

Good to read.

otristan wrote:

4) which knob ? MIDI one or UI one ?

UI one.

dven - Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:45 am

First off, thank you for making this available and free! And tweakable!

It's a beta, so wrinkles expected;-) Here's a few that seem to be related.

1) Confirmed crash on OS X when switching filter from Off->Any Setting->Off. Crash log sent.

2) Crash when switching drive mode to "off". Logs sent.

I did notice that the filter and drive menus seem to be connected somehow, which may be the problem. Try loading the Baby Jazz-Light preset and switching the filter to any setting. The drive setting will immediately switch to off.

Also, switching the filter or drive menu does not cause a crash when switching to something besides "off." For example, switch the filter to "Analog LP" then any other setting. No crash until you switch to "off."

cheers,
dorian

stanlea - Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:53 am

So, is it ok now ?

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:03 am

K-Slash wrote:

otristan wrote:

4) which knob ? MIDI one or UI one ?

UI one.

Which one in the UI ? Very Happy

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:05 am

stanlea wrote:

So, is it ok now ?

VST PC version still can't loaded as we don't have post a new version yet.
However the standalone PC works fine and all version on Mac except crashes reported related to Filter and Drive.

K-Slash - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:11 am

otristan wrote:

Which one in the UI ? Very Happy

On the master FX section, I inserted the UVIMaster and tweaked the "tube" knob, the one at left.

By the way, I got problems too with some presets in my Plugsound Pro soundbanks.

For example :
- Vinyl Vibes (no attack, strange sound)
- Synth Leads (the were playing with a no attack, like pads)
- Attack Flute (almost no sound on high octaves, and a LOW volume on lower octaves)
- 5th (strange low volume sound)
- Attack Lead (same)

And it crashed while changing presets Sad

Jake Jackson - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:12 am

Will this program load Plugsound volumes? As in the pre-PlugsoundPro libraries like Volume 1: Keyboards?

mdsp - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:16 am

K-Slash wrote:

otristan wrote:

Which one in the UI ? Very Happy

ok thanks, we'll have a look

mdsp - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:26 am

Jake Jackson wrote:

Will this program load Plugsound volumes? As in the pre-PlugsoundPro libraries like Volume 1: Keyboards?

Pre-Plugsound pro soundbanks won't be supported, but these soundbanks are all included and enhanced (more multi-samples, FXs...) in the PlugSoundPro library.
there was 6 PlugSounds 650Mo each, which make 3.9Go and the plugsoundpro soundbank weights 8Go...

for upgrades from the old PlugSound (not pro) please contact techsupport@ultimatesoundbank.com

Megakazbek - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:40 am

What the hell is with installer that doesn't provide choice where to install this thing? It automatically installs itself in C:\Program Files\... and plugin is installed in C:\Program Files\Steinberg whatever (why the hell you think that everyone uses Steinberg hosts anyway?), so I had quite a hard time installing it because I DON'T HAVE DRIVE C: on my system at all, god damn it! Even the worst, it even automatically defiled my Start menu with its program group. When will developers finally learn that no one needs 18674616 useless groups in Start menu created by stupid VST plugin installers? This is lame and totally unprofessional. Using PACE is too, by the way. Those cretins at PACE cannot even properly write a driver so the system won't need a restart after its installation.

Megakazbek - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:49 am

As expected, this "workstation" doesn't even work - Tracktion just disappears when scanning VST plugins. So the hell with it.

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:55 am

Megakazbek wrote:

As expected, this "workstation" doesn't even work - Tracktion just disappears when scanning VST plugins. So the hell with it.

This is a known issue. You shouldn't have any problem with the standAlone version though.

Regarding the installer, we'll see what we can do about it.

Thanks for the report.

koolkeys - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:59 am

Yeah, the installer seems to recognize whatever the default VST directory is in your registry. However, I put my plugins in folders and it didn't seem to give the option to put it in a subfolder.

Brent

sleepless - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:15 am

Hi

Working fine (got to work again with it...) in standalone and as a plug in Logic 8.02 (OS 10.5.3, Mac G5 PPC).

First trouble I have is you can't almost save .aupreset (crash). I've written "almost" because even if Logic has crashed, the .aupreset file is in the relevant folder.
But when you want to load it, crash again.

BTW, X-Treme FX and Ultrafocus failed AU validation since 8.02 update.
Any fix in the loop ?

sirbellog - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:21 am

Hello,

Will this new engine (once finalized of course) benefit to the old UVI engine, and thus lead to a (free and welcome) update for Motu instruments ?

I believe that you are the company under those Motu's VIs, and I ask that question because I happen to own a copy of Ethno Instruments, which is very-very far from being the most stable plugin that I use....(not to mention supported)

Based on the Net discussions, I'm defintely not the only one suffering user-problems, and the updates are almost non-existing, to the point that I even came to wonder if the deal with MOTU was broken.

So, as soon as I saw this thread, I came to hope for some kind of revival, which coulb be beneficial to people like me..

So ?

Thanks in advance for your transparency !

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:31 am

sleepless wrote:

There won't be any update on X-Treme FX and Ultrafocus plugins.
However, the Synth Anthology(UltraFocus) and XTremeFX Soundbank are available for the new UVIWorkstation platform.

Please send an email to techsupport@ultimatesoundbank.com for crossgrade details

Thanks,

K-Slash - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:44 am

I got crash again, while :

- double-clicking on a preset name in the GUI (not in the browser)
- switching presets using the arrows near "A1" on the GUI

Another preset that has no attack with this workstation :
- LP Marshall

otristan - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:54 am

Hey Guys,

We have updated the version on the server.
No version number modification though for quicker delivery to you.
The installer date should be different though.

The VST PC version can now be launched Very Happy

Crash with filter or drive removal are fixed.
Crash related to browser.

Let us know how it goes.

Thanks,

dven - Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:52 am

Filter crash and drive crash fixed here!

Still have the aupreset loading crash (log sent).

cheers,
dorian

Midiworks - Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:53 am

Pace.... download goes into trash RIGHT AWAY !!!

mdsp wrote:

yes it needs to install the pace drivers.

mdsp - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:02 pm

Megakazbek wrote:

We've tried our best to keep the installation process simple, the Standalone and the demo SoundBanks need to be installed in your system {Program Files} be it on C:, Z: or any drive letter where your have your primary system partition.

The installer should be able to detect this, if not we'll see what we can do.

Similarly we try to detect the standard VST folder if it is defined so you could have it on P: if you want.

Anyway, point taken we'll let you customize all these locations as well as the start-menu entry in the next version.

Agitator - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:27 pm

otristan wrote:

now i can open it in FL Studio 8 Very Happy

Michaelogoe - Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:54 pm

Hi,
Not at all like I hadn't have one of this moments:

Quote:

...And damn, I now it seems unrealistic, but I still hope for the promised (to me personally as well) 105 upgrade. PSP has a very good set of sounds, and there are some nice sound shaping tools and ideas (like multis or loops operations for instance), but it wont bake the cake, unless the USB devs fix the buggy issues.
By the way I hope there are still some left ( i mean the developers), cos if not then maybe USBs PR peps should think about releasing an open source code for freeware/shareware devs to make some use of this product, at least that would be some sort od way to say they're sorry and that they care.
If not then well c'est la vie for USB....

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=197427&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=plugsound+pro&start=60

Can't wait for V 1.0!!!, then again from what I've read it seems more troublesome then PSPro, but I do keep my fingers crossed for the devs, good luck & thanks 4 UR transparency and commitment!!!

blackboyrockinit - Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:00 pm

Megakazbek wrote:

Well it's just a hunch, but I think most windows vst programs have the install path set up to c/program files/steinberg/vstplugins because steinberg invented the VST.

that, amongst other reasons such as tradtion and familiarity. And forgetfulness.

stanlea - Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:09 pm

Michaelogoe wrote:

I do keep my fingers crossed for the devs, good luck & thanks 4 UR transparency and commitment!!!

MacQ - Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:03 pm

Okay, well, it's working as a plug-in now in EnergyXT, but I can't get Cubase 4 to see it for some bizarre reason. Anyway, I'mn sure that'll get sorted out.

The one question I have is regarding the patch layers. I don't see a way to access them (for example the 2 layer patches in Synths Anthology / Ultra Focus). Thankfully with the new GUI, it looks like features can be added without too much hassle.

Also, there is no obvious overload light for when you distort channels.

~Stu

DHR53 - Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:21 pm

I just DLd the beta... Nice job on the interface! The PSP although very eye catching was too big, and way too much graphic crap that didn't do anything. Honestly I didn't even load it when I got my new Macbook... This one I will. It loaded the PSP sound bank without any problems... and some of the sounds that were glitching before are playing now? Hmmmm... CPU still seems to be unpredictable? I was running 2 instances, and Logic was giving me an audio overload error. Although an individual instance doesn't seem to be using too much cpu? Maybe the beta? I'm glad this is going forward... the sounds are still top-notch! Smile

JavaJ - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:40 pm

Just installed UVIWS on an HP Laptop (running AMD Turion64 TL-56, 2GB RAM). Sound device was a Roland Sonic Cell. Everything ran solid and quick (for the standalone which is all I care about right now). I am interested in this for live performance so I would like to add my wishes
Make the GUI resizeable- my 17" laptop makes this a little to small for live use. Can you also create a live view where it shows the patch names in a larger font as well as patch selection in large format (again, think of being on stage and having to quickly navigate this).
I find this very very interesting (and actually performs better than the free Kore player on my system). Not sure about the loops though- some of them seem to be playing in the background and only engage when I hit a key (which is a cool effect for somethings but a little bizzare at first- was this intentionall

Also, I didn't find a way of changing the octave of a part (so if I wanted to make a split with bass on the bottom, and a combination guitar/string part on top- the bass was too low).

Did make it crash (standalone). I loaded up a saved multi- then clicked on the main out, then on the keyswitch, and it crashed.

JavaJ - Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:50 pm

MacQ wrote:

I just figured it out. Click on the A1 and you can create multiple layers in various keyranges (cool). Layer A1 all parts you want together- then go to A2 and layer other parts (and set different keyranges).

TheoM - Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:50 pm

otristan wrote:

If you're on mac, then there is no know issues.

Weird that you say that when half the complaints of crashes on this thread are mac.

Then again i am pleased to see UVI is not dead after all and now plugsound pro is something I will finally purchase.

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