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Ben [Camel Audio] - Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:28 pm

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This thread is a place for requests of presets for Alchemy. To have the best chance of your request being met, please be as specific as possible about the nature of the sounds you'd like to have. You should either provide a link to a piece of music and give the exact time in minutes and seconds at which the sound you'd like comes in, together with a description of what the sound is, or alternatively refer to another instrument and the name of a preset. You can request as many sounds as you like. Without these specific details its unlikely that your wishes will be fulfilled. Even if you do, then we don't guarentee that we will provide the sounds, since the main focus will be on creating sounds that you've never heard before, but some sound designers like to hear examples of this kind to give them an idea of a direction to go in - so there's a good chance - especially if other users are keen to hear the given kind of sound.

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pdxindy - Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:11 pm

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I'd really like a top notch pan pipes preset.

In fact, I'd love an expansion set of quality ethnic wind instrument emulations.

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muLperi - Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:04 am

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Somebody if you can reproduce this sound, throw me a link
www.lennardigital.com
Adam Van Baker Soundset Part 2
At the end the lead sound starts about 306/343

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Reverend Rhythm - Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:02 am

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Cool sound!

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fjolle - Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:01 am

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Since you ask

Simple basses, like one used in this track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKwt3rv7GfM
Also the strings which start at 1:00.

More pads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_D-Rp81JB0

And pads at 00:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zu6dC8UGh4

There is a few pads, some sidechained/lfo'd.

And more pads/soundscapes that aren't too weird. Like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAOw3wLOFEI

More simple/short basses usable for fast sequenzes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9W4gWTJY9c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfa6syEBlB8


And more plucky sounds and short leads (eg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAOw3wLOFEI at 3:45. Also more damped-piano like)

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fjolle - Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:18 pm

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Sorry to double post, but to explain my previous post a bit:

I'll quote bmanic who had a pretty decent comment about the pads:


You defiently need more of the usable (and probably slightly more generic?) if you want to make an impact on the market.

Same goes for most of the other sounds such as leads and basses.

No doubt you can do it, take ArtVera's angelic pad: angelic_pad.mp3

Its a monster sound, interesting while still keeping a standard.
Obviously not everything should be as fat as this, also some less heavy background pads. I think the links to the videos in my above posts shows what i mean rather well

I hope you understand my point. Of course there should be weirder sides of alchemy, of course there should be pan-flutes, of course there should be weird piano sounds, but there should also be some more generic stuff to show that alchemy can do something for both worlds.

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zosoaudo007 - Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:09 pm

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Hey guys. I did a bit of experimenting with the additive part, and used it to do a Wall E vocal sound like from the movie. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMtiusvNWyI

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aymericf - Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:36 pm

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Ultimate sound ! You should share this preset

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Mr. Tingle - Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:40 pm

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personally I feel that Alchemy needs a strong and extensive preset selection set (that are included in the basic package) to make an impact on the market to show the world the quality, potential and originality of what alchemy has to offer.

Alchemy obviously has some new tricks up its sleeve but I feel that people need starting blocks to get into the process of sound design. By having a relativly limited and exotic preset list as the core set as is currently the case I think alchemy is going to struggle somewhat to generate a broad and expanding (average) userbase as opposed to a smaller very happy qualified set of 'sound designers' who absolutely love it.

My solution is more presets, loads more, that come as default on the basic package (the average user, I feel, won't feel inclined to purchase more presets and so won't ever hear what alchemy has to offer unless they are synth patch sound designers).

Sieving through lists of random user generated presets is rather hit and miss and an unsatisfactory way of filling this void.

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zosoaudo007 - Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:14 pm

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sorry for the clutter guys. the thread names confused me.

For the Wall E thing I posted, the preset and link to an example are in the preset sharing thread.

Here it is:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3450447&highlight=#3450447

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zosoaudo007 - Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:15 pm

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edit: double post

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zareone - Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:34 am

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This is very Vangelis-like, isn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uUyfFvpL9E (1:30 and later)

Maybe you can get something similar by modifying the preset called Replicant (Under Synth category)

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bduffy - Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:06 am

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I enthusiastically echo fjolle's sentiments for smooth, un-weird pads, more suitable to scoring/film and pop or ambient work. I'm having a hard time filling the pad void with Alchemy, and this would be my #1 request. I'll try to find some examples too.

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rectus_dominus - Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:15 am

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I'd suggest diversity instead of making tons of the same kind of experimental presets... Alchemy has the potential to be an all-around synth, it just needs to be more "inspiring"... Clean, producer quality sounds are a must for this, even if it will require the users to download vast sized sample expansion packs to achieve that

note: Importing sfz files from Cakewalk stuff proved to be interesting for me, as they are a bit simpler

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PaulSC - Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:47 pm

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Okay, what the heck, might as well share this:
http://pnauert.googlepages.com/AdamVangelis.mp3
http://pnauert.googlepages.com/AVanGelis.acp

Enjoy!

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muLperi - Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:17 pm

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thanks paul!

Someone pro could really do some trance preset bank to Alchemy.

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ATS - Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:23 pm

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any kind of dance/trance sounds would be great.

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Echoes in the Attic - Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:30 pm

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I think an invaluable addition to Alchemy's preset library would be the ability to load cameleon5000 patches.

Pretty please.

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Reverend Rhythm - Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:48 pm

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What about TC Galaxy ported to Alchemy.

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LQdb - Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:41 am

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Ask KVR-User Adamtrance (aka Adam Szabo) if he is planning a trance/dance soundset for Alchemy ?!

IMHO he is one of the best trance/dance sound-designers and very good in "emulating" class. VA-Synths on other softsynth-plattforms

I would buy one...

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ZenPunkHippy - Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:37 am

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ZenPunkHippy - Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:00 am

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spidergod - Mon Mar 16, 2009 5:27 am

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Hello

I would like a dark psy/psy trance preset please.

I have tried to make myself, but am hopeless.

Also a few industrial/aggro tech presents (anything like combichrists sound/suicide commandos sound).

thanks

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cwig - Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:31 am

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More long, flowing, evolving drones/pads, please.

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Arksun - Mon Mar 16, 2009 6:38 am

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Agreed. If its pure out and out trance you want, Adams your man

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standalone - Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:24 am

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More than asking for one style in particular , I would like the patch designers to continue exploring new possibilities with the acoustic sources .

( BTW , Arksun's work ROCKS ) .

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FaX - Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:47 am

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I'd probably second this as from the hours I've used Alchemy today have been an eye opener.
It sort of bridges the gap between physical modeling and sampling in a way nothing else has as yet and would excel at what I coin acoustic/digital hybrids or dynamic organic synthesis.
That said this interface is deep and is going to take some time too get accustomed to and to milk the most out of.
I am amazed at how good some of the patches are considering how long people would have had to experiment with it myself.
Alchemy really can sound damn beautiful.
I've killed off the internal effects engine and used Logic's Delay and Space designer on a few patch tweaks and all I can say is Holy Mother of God she sounds beautiful.

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Beardedone - Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:44 pm

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Please could someone make patch that plays like the pitch-bending harmonica patch Lyle Mays plays here :

Lyle

I can't believe that it's as impossible as it seems to be.

Thanks,
Gordon

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PaulSC - Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:56 pm

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Hi Gordon,

Does this get you in the ballpark for the sound you want?

Lyle's ReedSynth

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Beardedone - Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:14 am

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Hi Paul,

Lookig forward to trying this but I can't recall what folder the aaz goes into.

Gordon

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Beardedone - Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:28 am

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OK I put the aaz file in the user presets folder. Alchemy asked me to browse for the source. I am sure there is a better way. Anyway the patch sound cool but it is not at all what I'm after.

If you listen to the section of the track I posted (AreYou Going with Me -Pat Metheny Group Travels - Live album circa 1983) Lyle Mays is playing a monophonic harmonica sample (a synclavier patch) where the pitch bending is in response to a foot pedal. Lyle was very clear about not using a pitch wheel in his decription of this. I have seen this performed live and have a video from 1992 where it is clear that he is not using a pitch wheel and that it is indeed a monophonic patch.

Thanks for your efforts Paul. I really appreciate your help.


Cheers,
Gordon

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PaulSC - Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:23 am

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Hi Gordon,

The preset I posted before is monophonic, so if it's not behaving that way for you, I suspect you've not loaded it properly.

However, I didn't know pitchbend via footpedal was an important part of the design. Here's a new preset that may get closer to what you're seeking. (Or maybe not.)

LyleReed 02

A few notes:

1. Once you download this folder you'll find a textfile inside with installation instructions.
   
2. Be sure to check out all 8 remix pad settings, in case the default (pad 1) isn't what you need -- some of the other settings are more mellow, for instance.
   
3. I've set it up so that CC#1 (modwheel) produces a downward bend of 1 whole step. So to control pitchbend with a footpedal, just map your footpedal to CC#1. If you prefer an upward bend, just click the Master Fine Tune knob and find "Performance Control 7" in the mod rack at the left of the modulation section. You'll see the mod depth is set fully to the left (for a downward bend). Move this knob fully to the right to set an upward bend instead.
   

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Beardedone - Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:40 am

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Thanks Paul. I will try this as soon as can. Won't be too long I think. Right now I am trying to figure out a frustrating issue another synth.

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Beardedone - Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:57 am

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Paul,

I believe I am doing something wrong. The sound I am getting is just like a theramin and not at all like an harmonica. Also the remix pads are identical. I put all of the files into one folder but Alchemy still asked me for the location of the aaz file.

Is this right?

Best,
Gordon

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Beardedone - Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:45 pm

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Still sounds like a theramin. Any ideas?

I would like to get this working.

Best,
Gordon

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ZenPunkHippy - Mon Mar 30, 2009 4:55 pm

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Hey,

v2 of Pauls patch is working fine here, including the remix-pad variations, sounds great. It doesn't sound like a theramin either!! This might be highlighting another compatibility issue between v1.08 and v1.09 patches (I'm testing v1.09), which would be a problem IMO.

I'll install v1.08 now, and let you know how it goes.

Peace,
Andy.

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ZenPunkHippy - Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:08 pm

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OK, tested.

It's not right at all. The patch does not work in v1.08 (sounds like a theramin!!), but works as expected in v1.09. That is not acceptable as a "feature" or a bug, so I"ll have it looked ASAP. Also, v1.08 did not fine the .aaz file automatically, I had to browse for it. That does not happen in v1.09, it loads the patch normally.

Thanks for the heads up.

Peace,
Andy.

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Beardedone - Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:59 am

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OK sorry my fault - I wasn't aware of the 1.09 update.

Uh where is this update?

Cheers,
Gordon

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Reverend Rhythm - Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:19 am

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Log into you account on the camel website. It's there.

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Beardedone - Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:26 am

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No I don't see it, only the 1.08 update.

Cheers,
Gordon

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Reverend Rhythm - Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:30 am

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I'll check.

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Beardedone - Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:32 am

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Thanks!

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Reverend Rhythm - Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:32 am

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Sorry 'bout that. You are correct. Only 1.08

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ZenPunkHippy - Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:34 am

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Oops - should have clearly stated that we are currently beta testing v1.09, it's not available to download yet, but the RC will be in a day or two.

If all goes according to plan, there might be a couple of nice surprises for some of you, but no promises!!

Peace,
Andy.

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Beardedone - Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:57 pm

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Hi ZenPunkHippy,

The patch comes up in 1.09. Lylereed 2 sounds like it's appraoching the AYGWM patch I am after though it is too nasal in tone reminding me of Little Wayne's horrible squawk There is something about the footpedal control that Lyle talks about in an interview from 20 years back where he refers to the foot pedal modulating pitch involving an LFO somehow. I can make no sense of it but I am no sense of the word versed in this matters. I am really keen to get that combination of vibrato and pitch bend that Lyle achieves in the solo I posted.

Thanks for all the work. If you have any idea how to get it closer to the model I would really appreciate it. At this point I am not up to anything beyond a rudimentary patch in Alchemy. I am still having very tough time understnding the modulation controls.

Cheers,
Gordon

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PaulSC - Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:48 pm

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Hi Gordon,

Glad the preset is loading for you now that the 1.09 upgrade is out. If what I threw together so far is vaguely in the ballpark, then I can probably get it closer. If you're determined to set up your pitchbend controls the same way he does his, you'll have to research his techniques and share them here. I have no idea how he does it -- but I agree the results sound great on that audio clip you posted!

Busy week for me now, but maybe I can get back to this on the weekend...

Paul

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Beardedone - Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:38 am

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Great,

I will have to find that interview. Someone on Pat Metheny's American Garage forum may have it.

Cheers,
Gordon

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Beardedone - Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:39 am

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There is one point that I do remember. It's that the pitch bending Lyle described as being accomplished using a foot pedal triggering an LFO which modulates the pitch of the note being played. Can this be done with Alchemy?

Cheers,
GOrdon

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PaulSC - Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:04 am

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Yes, as long as you have a foot pedal that can send MIDI CC data, the technique you describe can be done.

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Beardedone - Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:14 am

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Right but I don't understand the LFO triggering. How would that be done in Alchemy?

Best,
Gordon

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PaulSC - Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:39 am

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Maybe "foot pedal triggering an LFO" is ambiguous. LFOs normally run continuously and don't require a trigger per se. I'll assume what's needed is to be able to apply the LFO to the target only when the foot pedal is pressed.

To achieve this, route the LFO to the target (Fine Tune, for vibrato), but with a modulation depth of zero. Then right-click the modulation depth knob and choose "Add Modulation > Performance Controls > Control 8". Finally, right-click Performance Control 8, choose MIDI Learn, and then send control data from your foot pedal to link it to the Perform knob. (Doesn't have to be knob 8, just used this for an example.)

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Beardedone - Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:45 am

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OK I'll try to see if I can do this. I am very slow with this kind of thing. Once I manage to do this does it matter about the kind of LFO. I am thinking that the LFO frequency and shape affect the performance?

Thanks,
Gordon

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giancarlos - Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:56 am

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a sine will do for vibrato, adjust the freq/speed to suit...

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Beardedone - Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:50 pm

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I tried it but it sounds horrible. Is there a way I can post my mod?

Cheers,
Gordon

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kvrsam - Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:52 pm

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It has come up a couple of times already but I also would enjoy a set of VA-only sounds: pads, basses, leads.

It would be cool if Alchemy could sound like Korg Radias. Alchemy has similar bright, excellent sound so I think it could be possible.

Here are Radias demo songs:

http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=262

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PaulSC - Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:37 pm

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You'll need a place to host the file. Looks like you've got your own website; otherwise, there are plenty of solutions like box.net and rapidshare and so on.

Just save your preset with a suitable name. Say you call it "LyleMod" then in the same folder as your preset (LyleMod.acp) you should also find a file named something like "LyleModA.aaz" -- the audio data for Source A. You can post the two files separately, or zip them up in a folder together and post that.

To be honest, I'm puzzled how the pedal-triggered LFO works in the audio example you posted, because I don't hear any periodic variation in pitch such as an LFO would produce. Until you know more about the LFO rate and the LFO shape that LM is using, I think this mystery is going to remain unsolved. (And even when that information is known, it may require learning special performance techniques before you can get the same kind of performed result out of a comparable setup.)

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Beardedone - Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:55 am

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Thanks Paul for the instructions,

Will post later tonight.

Cheers,
Gordon

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Beardedone - Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:12 am

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OK here is my mod

LyleReed03

I tried using my expression pedal linked to LFO depth. Maybe there is a better way. Or perhaps I am just not a good enough keys player.

Thanks,
Gordon

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ATS - Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:52 am

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Did Camel ever commission another bank? I thought I read that they did but not sure if I was dreaming. Thanks.

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ATS - Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:54 pm

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Looking forward to them.

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Kmeister - Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:28 pm

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I would like some evolving pads and a copy of Alchemy to play them on.

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Karmacomposer - Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:44 pm

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I know for a FACT that Camel Audio is paying certain individuals for Alchemy presets and possibly soundsets.

Mike

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rectus_dominus - Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:01 am

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Can I ask how is the Best of Cameleon preset pack going?

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ZenPunkHippy - Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:06 am

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The ability to import Cameleon sounds in to Alchemy is almost finished, but still requires testing. I don't think it will make the v1.11 release, but it will almost certainly be available for v1.12. Once that is ready and we're happy with it, we'll be able to start work on the Best of Cameleon sound bank.

Peace,
Andy.

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Reverend Rhythm - Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:25 am

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Awesome news!

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Mattox - Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:47 am

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Are there any dubstep presets for alchemy, wobble basses etc?

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Ben [Camel Audio] - Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:28 am

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There are some that would probably fit the bill in the Bonus 1 bank - some of bManics spring to mind. I've been writing some dub step influenced electronica just using Alchemy, and I've managed to find some decent basses. There are also some more dub step basses on the way.

If anyone else reading this has some more specific preset names, please post away.

Ben

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bmanic - Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:21 am

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I've made some new ones lately which will most likely be included at some point.

Cheers!
bManic

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Mattox - Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:02 am

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Very cool!

I found a good starting point the 'Nosier' patch.

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krraqk - Sat Nov 14, 2009 7:24 pm

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The actual presets seems to be extremely focussed in the weird and strong audio manipulation area. That can be good for somebody, but I think Alchemy can do much more (maybe Im wrong?).

So I would like to have more conventional sounds in the presets (workstation type, etc.) using the good tools that Alchemy has.

Also would be very good to have presets which explore the additive and morphing capabilities to create acoustic and new acoustic/hybrid sounds. In the actual presets I dont see practically nothing in this area, where I think Alchemy can do very interesting things emulating "real" sounds with the much improved additive synthesis and to create new sounds morphing between diferent sources. An "acoustic" bank done by some good sound programmer would be amazing (Bigtone and Daniel Maurer come to my mind).

I think others have requested something similar in this thread, so maybe there is some hope and we can see other sides of Alchemy.

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aMUSEd - Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:20 pm

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That's something I have a big interest in. I created 3 banks for Cameleon ages ago exploring largely hybrid morphing sounds (Metamorphosis, Industrial and Horizon banks) and when I get round to it will try and convert them. I also made some experiments in using the same approach in Alchemy which I posted very early on in the preset sharing thread - they are here:

http://cid-c7b2fc04bce4c85f.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Music/Sounds/Alchemy

I have also posted several banks for Modelonia (some also need Kore 2) that explore similar types of morphing hybrid sound (but using a physical modelling engine)

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krraqk - Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:29 am

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Thanks aMUSEd, I will try your presets later.

How do you find the Alchemy morphing capabilities compared to C5k?

I had a good time exploring C5k creating presets and the morphing was spectacular, the sound liquifies and transform like a fluid from source to source.

Now with Alchemy I dont have the same sensation and I even get clicks while morphing (strange no one has complained about it?). I have the impression that Alchemy cant do what C5k was doing so brilliantly. The target now (judging by the presets included) seems to be mainly sample mangling and not that (to me at least) magic and morphable instruments from C5k.

In fact I tried to import my C5k presets and the sound is totally different and also the morphing behaviour is not the same, not to mention the clicks mentioned.

Also when I tried to import 4 additive sources in Alchemy and tried to morph, the cpu hit seems to be much more than C5k, its me or its normal?

Do you think, we have lost those good things from C5k?

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jma77 - Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:17 pm

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I'd like a faithful recreation of John Paul Jones' keyboard in "No Quarter". I just purchased Alchemy, so if this already exists somewhere, please enlighten me!

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Phattlippz - Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:24 pm

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I also believe that a bank of bread and butter sounds would go along ways to rounding out the breadth of the presets. I do mostly scoring work of various types and children's music, and simple, MUSICAL sounds are my staple. I would love to have a large number of Roland-JV-style keyboard stacks and such in Alchemy. I have yet to find the softsynth that will encourage me to sell off my late-90's romplers.

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viemexis - Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:33 pm

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+1

I'm interested in buying Alchemy but what holds me back is a lack of clean sounds. Alchemy has the power to sound like anything, but it seems to me most presets sound like ambient or trance. How about some some snappy, clean, acoustic-y sounds?

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spidergod - Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:08 am

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What I would like to see myself are some :

soundscape only preset library (I know we have the himalya pads pack out now and it does look and sound interesting).

An arps only preset library ranging from dark and dirty to nice and bright.

Space Music preset library

Dubstep and dirty electro librarys

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Unfocused - Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:26 am

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I absolutely agree with this. I'd like to replace wusikstation with Alchemy because I like programming Alchemy better. Yet wusikstation's bread and butter presets currently beat Alchemy's.


-u

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aMUSEd - Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:28 am

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Luftrum and Cinematic both have lots of soundscapes and bigger pads/fx sounds

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spidergod - Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:36 am

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yeah have both of those

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olepro - Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:44 am

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I personally think that many bread and butter sounds is lying around.
I have many, but Camel Audio only except patches that meet their guidelines about remix pads and performance controllers wich really is time demanding to include in every patch.
That's a reason i have MANY patches lying wich isn't "finished" for publication and maybe never will.

I'm pretty shure that manu people is surfing through the patches with out trying the variations anyway, but i might be wrong.

But maybe i should make a "no variation bank" and see if anyone was interested.

My 5 cents

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maxdis - Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:19 am

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+1 for more "usable" sounds

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Proxima4 - Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:38 am

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I would love not to buy 'Garritan PO' simply because I don't really need formal orchestral sounds.

However. I would like some basic orchestral string and wind patches, followed up with impacts, winds, brass, the whole nine yards. that's layered with other Alchemy soundscapes and effects.

Wind chimes, nature, grainular noises. etc.

sections like

Small Orhestral ensembles: strings, cello, winds.
Larger Orchestral ensembles: strings, cello, winds, brass.
Impacts: timpany, cymbal crash, soft cymbal roll, larger impacts

Then the whole lot again, with alchemy inspired fusion. in avante garde/cinematic style.

I could do some of this myself, but I have to admit the basic Orchestral SFZ making, is frustrating in my limited capacity, the use of multi sampled and multi velocity key maping would be too much for my time. I would pay more than the usual £39.00 say £59.00 (I will pay what you ask of course.!) for a really cool and well laid out library.

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jeffb01 - Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:00 am

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A whole library of top notch drones... It seems that alchemy would be perfect for this...

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pdxindy - Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:52 pm

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For a lot of acoustic-ish sounds, I really don't care about the remix pads... I like the remix pads, but in some cases I would rather just have 4 separate presets than have those presets built into the remix pads and I have to go hunting to find them.

For winds and strings and brass etc I just want good sounds and am not planning generally on morphing them. I just want a good preset and I can tweak it how I want to adjust the sound if I wish. I'd buy such a bank assuming I liked the sounds and the lack of remix pads would not deter me at all.

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ddeez - Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:50 pm

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Without question the number 1 thing I'm looking for is poly synth sounds that have a unique sound to them and can be played like a piano that has sustain. I know this sounds super broad but i can give an example out of the patches that have already been made for Alchemy. The "Rasta Funk" patch in the DanceTrance expansion is a great example of exactly what I'm looking for because it has the great playability of a piano sound BUT it has a very unique tonal characteristic. It sounds kinda organ like kinda rhodes like but not quite either. I'm not looking for one specific kind of tone but more patches that respond well to chordal and quick type playing (like a piano that can sustain if you want it to) like the Rasta Funk patch does. Any questions on my request lemme know! I'd absolutley love it if you guys did a whole expansion bank of poly synth type sounds..i think alchemy could really use that!!

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shaymon - Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:40 am

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I think a bank of Wavetable sounds might be good. Perhaps using the granular engine and its position knob along with custom oscillator wavs.

Maybe something like this already exists...?

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rikki rivett - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:03 am

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I just checked out the new Cinematic (Atmos / Impacts) banks and had a thought:

I probably won't buy these banks, even though I generally buy lots of sounds and have bought several Alchemy expansions to date. The reason is, only a few of the sounds appeal to me,

BUT: why not sell patches individually? That way, it would be possible just to get the few you actually want. I'd be prepared to pay a little more for a specific sound, myself. You could credit the purchase towards the whole bank if bought at a later date.

This would answer the many requests for more affordable ways to buy sounds. Sort of like "iTunes for synth preset albums":

How about it?

RR

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ZenPunkHippy - Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:46 pm

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You are not alone in thinking this is a good idea ... but I can't say any more than that

Peace,
Andy.

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Unfocused - Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:52 pm

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I have GPO (which I like a lot), but have been eying the ProjectSAM stuff. I'd love to have something along those lines for Alchemy.

As far as synths I actually program go, I only use 2 now: FM8 and Alchemy. Everything else is acoustic sample libraries--I'd love to be able to replace those with (or load them into) Alchemy.


-u

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Julian Ray - Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:06 pm

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@spidergod

I am working on Soundscapes only sound bank for Alchemy. In final stage already.
May be interesting for you.

Best,
Julian

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jsten - Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:54 am

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Inner City Life by Goldie - 'The String Pad sound'

I would love that patch

Best wishes

Steve, jsten

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Stopani - Fri Nov 26, 2010 3:25 pm

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I'd like a library of real instruments being tortured / extended teqnique type stuff. Violins, Cellos played with the back of the bow, multi samples of strings played at harmonics. Piano strings attacked with sand paper or rubbed with polystyrene and perhaps a set of tubular bells being hit by a small nail bomb.

Also a vocal pack. Operatic laments, chants and more drawn out phrases to use with the morphing side of Alchemy.

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viemexis - Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:13 am

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I'd like a soundbank of all strings--both plucked and bowed. I would buy that before I'd buy any of your other current soundbanks.

Also, +1 to the person above me. That'd be awesome.

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garyjm - Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:01 am

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When I first bought alchemy player 'after trying the trial version of the alchemy synthesizer' - I found this sound in the preset list that was like that out of a horror scenario...it was a layered soundscape that sounded like an old door creaking mixed in with a pad and another moving sound to provide a lot od suspense...however when i installed the player on my receptor the patch had vanished...can't for the life of me work out the name of what patch that was, anyone shed light?

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ZenPunkHippy - Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:14 am

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Hi,

It's probably this preset by Jim Hunter:

Factory -> Loops -> Pandora's Box

The preset should be in the Alchemy Player Factory presets, or in the full version. If you can't find it, or if it's the wrong one let me know and I'll try again.

Peace,
Andy.

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garyjm - Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:25 am

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Hi Andy

Can't lie and say it wasn't there! I'm as blind as a bat! That's it! Thanks!!!!

I bought two soundsets so I was probably assuming it was in one of those.
Cheers
Gary

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Sleepwalker - Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:16 pm

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Im shore you guys can cook up any sound! My personal wish is at a different level, regarding the presets:

Consistency in the Perform page, on preset banks!

Id love to have pure, dedicated style banks. Leads only, or bass, or percussion only, etc. And have all the Perform parameters configured the same way.

This way, you could play through the whole bank, without looking at the screen.
Because some of us perform live on stage, or like to be separated from the computer screen at home.

Performance Banks.

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ZenPunkHippy - Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:47 am

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Hi,

We're planning to add a preset browser with searching and tagging in a future update (probably v1.30). This will allow you to find all Leads, Basses or Pads (for example) across all sound libraries and then select from the list of presets using MIDI Program Change.

The general idea with the performance controls is that the controls are always mapped to similar parameters e.g. Perform Control 3 is always Filter Cutoff. This allows each preset to be controlled in a familiar way, and when combined with the preset searching you'll be pretty close to your ideal setup.

But, we will also consider performance oriented sound libraries for the future ... it's a good idea

Peace,
Andy.

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bobbybland - Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:27 pm

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How long before that's available? We're just on 1.20 and I've heard talk of a 1.25?? I'm lost..lol Anyhow sounds like a really important update to alot of us..eager to hear back,in the meantime,I'm gonna hold off buying any new sets,cuz I'd rather work with them as mentioned.

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ZenPunkHippy - Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:00 pm

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Hi,

v1.25 is the next release. We're going to start beta testing in the next few days. No release date yet, but possibly within a months time, maybe less.

Work on v1.30 is happening already, but we need to test and release v1.25 first. It is not possible to give any estimate of when v1.30 will be out, but we are all very keen to see the preset browser as it will make Alchemy MUCH easier to use

Peace,
Andy.

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