KVR :: Orange Tree Samples » Jazz/Rock flute sample library--requests? [View Original Topic]
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Gregjazz - Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:15 pm
I have a recording session in December for an Orange Tree Samples Jazz/Rock flute sample library. The scripting is going to be amazing, I have a lot of ideas, and the library is going to sound so great!
I'm still writing out the parts, but I'm definitely sampling things like fluttertonguing, growls, and hopefully some multiphonics/phrases. All those effects will be in addition to several velocity layers of sustains, staccatissimos ("staccatissimi" for purists), rips, falls, and possibly half/whole grace notes.
Do you have any requests? If I have extra time in the session, I want to make sure to record as much as possible.
echophex - Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:17 pm
my only request is for you to see it thru!
WAHOO
cant wait to get paid so I can get me some Mesa...
Gregjazz - Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:30 pm
Oh, I forgot to mention overblown notes. Those add a really nice touch when put on a high velocity layer. Of course, rips (quickly atonally leading up to the note) could be cool on the high velocity layer, too. Maybe I need to include a simple way to adjust how you want to select the articulations--via velocity layer, keyswitch, controller, etc.
Maybe a Mind Control sort of interface, but without the "layers". So you'd just select the articulation, and then the parameters needed to trigger it. But of course, a bunch of ready-to-go preset mappings up front.
studiocat - Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:46 pm
An occasional "quick taken breath" sample after an appropriate amount of notes would be cool. Expression via breath controller would be great also. -Perry-
EvilDragon - Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:57 am
Jethro Tull?
Exhile - Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:02 am
NO! Not another one. Now i know i am going crazy. Tis one is definately on my to get list along with acoustic guitar. Wow. Guess i will have to pass up on MesaWinds for now though
ZombyWoof - Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:19 pm
Maybe a set of accessory grunts and whoops to be layered during staccato flute bursts for a bit of that Ian Anderson mojo?
comma - Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:51 pm
My first thought for a creative addition would to have a patch that included humming by the flutist... . Random I know, but a family friend who played jazz flute and went by the name "The Ghost" used the technique well. I guess this goes along with the grunts comment posted earlier.
jancivil - Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:48 pm
Gregjazz wrote:
I have a recording session in December for an Orange Tree Samples Jazz/Rock flute sample library. The scripting is going to be amazing, I have a lot of ideas, and the library is going to sound so great!
I'm still writing out the parts, but I'm definitely sampling things like fluttertonguing, growls, and hopefully some multiphonics/phrases. All those effects will be in addition to several velocity layers of sustains, staccatissimos ("staccatissimi" for purists), rips, falls, and possibly half/whole grace notes.
Do you have any requests? If I have extra time in the session, I want to make sure to record as much as possible.
Well, Jeff Steinman (Warp IV) has a lot of this covered for jazz flute; the one thing I find lacking in his libary, is the multiphonics are not layered at all, there's just the one effect it seems, and the effect gets a little tired to exploit much. Variety in that and the growl area are what would get my card out. I am liking CC11 expression control in the VSL piccolo I just bought, a LOT.
I'm still writing out the parts, but I'm definitely sampling things like fluttertonguing, growls, and hopefully some multiphonics/phrases. All those effects will be in addition to several velocity layers of sustains, staccatissimos ("staccatissimi" for purists), rips, falls, and possibly half/whole grace notes.
Do you have any requests? If I have extra time in the session, I want to make sure to record as much as possible.
In general, the GUI layout of Kontakt is a PITA compared to Vienna Instruments. For instance, these Warp IV libraries are largely keyswitch-based, and a visual on it, for me is referring to a pdf until I remember it, after some time. VI lays it out in cells and it's perfectly obvious what's what in the same window as everything else.
I def don't understand enough about what's possible in kontakt scripting to get around this rack interface way o life, but this IME would put your products above a lot of the rest of Kontakt devs. VI Pro is a game changer for vi control. If I was a dev I'd be paranoid enough to have a look-see. http://vsl.co.at/en/211/497/537/1456/1481/1570.htm# (Time-stretching: staccatissimo and beyond)
guitarzan - Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:50 pm
Include English flute (aka: recorder) samples, so you can groove on stuff like Canned Heat - Going Up The Country. That would be...uh....groovy
TristezaOrange - Fri Oct 08, 2010 4:06 pm
I love your libraries Greg but I just couldn't get into MesaWinds. That's because I find that sound very new-agey and wishy-washy (don't quote me on that, that's just a subjective opinion
) - not because the recording and scripting isn't as great as always because it is.
But a jazz flute from you would be FANTASTIC. I already own the Warp IV flute jancivil mentioned and I'm very satisfied with it but I'm pretty sure you can do even better.
Please go ahead and record it!
Don't forget about the Evolution Acoustic though!
DocAtlas - Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:56 pm
Will it have a 'sung-style' articulation? I'm thinking of some Jethro Tull stuff I've heard; I can't think of any specific songs at the moment, but I'm really tired and not thinking too clearly right now. It sounds like an interesting product. (But now it's another library to save up for. And I'm already drooling over MesaWinds and the upcoming acoustic guitar lib. Maybe it's time you made some lousy products I wouldn't be tempted to buy! )
Gregjazz - Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:51 pm
TristezaOrange wrote:
I love your libraries Greg but I just couldn't get into MesaWinds. That's because I find that sound very new-agey and wishy-washy (don't quote me on that, that's just a subjective opinion ) - not because the recording and scripting isn't as great as always because it is.
) - not because the recording and scripting isn't as great as always because it is.I know exactly what you mean--MesaWinds has a very different market and appeal. But the opportunity to sample it presented itself, and I just couldn't resist!
Gregjazz - Sun Oct 10, 2010 2:52 pm
DocAtlas wrote:
Will it have a 'sung-style' articulation? I'm thinking of some Jethro Tull stuff I've heard; I can't think of any specific songs at the moment, but I'm really tired and not thinking too clearly right now. It sounds like an interesting product. (But now it's another library to save up for. And I'm already drooling over MesaWinds and the upcoming acoustic guitar lib. Maybe it's time you made some lousy products I wouldn't be tempted to buy! )
Yes--you're talking about where you hum while you play? That's on the "definitely sample" list. That articulation is a must for rock flute playing.
Gregjazz - Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:00 pm
jancivil wrote:
Well, Jeff Steinman (Warp IV) has a lot of this covered for jazz flute;
Yeah, I've checked his out before. It's pretty much keyswitch heaven, right? It seems like there's a lot of trills and other articulations, but those things are always tough to play from a keyboard since it's not always very practical to memorize so many keyswitches let alone incorporate it in your playing.
You know me, I'm all about automating those things to make libraries more instantly playable.
I'm not trying to get into criticizing other libraries at all, but the one big thing I'm not hearing in this flute library is legato between the notes, which IMO is a really important aspect in realism.
jancivil wrote:
the one thing I find lacking in his libary, is the multiphonics are not layered at all, there's just the one effect it seems, and the effect gets a little tired to exploit much. Variety in that and the growl area are what would get my card out.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll be sure to include as many layers of those things as possible.
jancivil wrote:
I am liking CC11 expression control in the VSL piccolo I just bought, a LOT.
Does the CC11 only control volume, or does it affect the tonality of the instrument as well, when creating dynamic fades?
jancivil wrote:
I def don't understand enough about what's possible in kontakt scripting to get around this rack interface way o life, but this IME would put your products above a lot of the rest of Kontakt devs. VI Pro is a game changer for vi control.
Yeah, I absolutely love what VI Pro has done with their latest engine--really fantastic work, and it looks so easy to use, too!
On one hand, I want to sample a lot of articulations, but on the other, I also want to minimize the number of keyswitches and make everything as real-time as possible.
My philosophy when it comes to sample libraries is that if you want a trill, you should be able to just play a trill on the keyboard and have it sound realistic. Same goes for grace notes, etc.
jancivil - Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:33 pm
Gregjazz wrote:
jancivil wrote:
Well, Jeff Steinman (Warp IV) has a lot of this covered for jazz flute;
Yeah, I've checked his out before. It's pretty much keyswitch heaven, right? It seems like there's a lot of trills and other articulations, but those things are always tough to play from a keyboard since it's not always very practical to memorize so many keyswitches let alone incorporate it in your playing.
You know me, I'm all about automating those things to make libraries more instantly playable.
I'm not trying to get into criticizing other libraries at all, but the one big thing I'm not hearing in this flute library is legato between the notes, which IMO is a really important aspect in realism.
Gregjazz wrote:
jancivil wrote:
I am liking CC11 expression control in the VSL piccolo I just bought, a LOT.
Does the CC11 only control volume, or does it affect the tonality of the instrument as well, when creating dynamic fades?
jancivil wrote:
I def don't understand enough about what's possible in kontakt scripting to get around this rack interface way o life, but this IME would put your products above a lot of the rest of Kontakt devs. VI Pro is a game changer for vi control.
Gregjazz wrote:
Yeah, I absolutely love what VI Pro has done with their latest engine--really fantastic work, and it looks so easy to use, too!
On one hand, I want to sample a lot of articulations, but on the other, I also want to minimize the number of keyswitches and make everything as real-time as possible.
My philosophy when it comes to sample libraries is that if you want a trill, you should be able to just play a trill on the keyboard and have it sound realistic. Same goes for grace notes, etc.
I'm in no a position to really know your market, but I wonder if everybody's really a crack keyboardist. Me, I do a lot of editing. I record all of it in by a key or drum controller, but I have to 'build' a performance from the former.
Yossarian - Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:38 am
I don't care how you do it but i want to sound like Björn J:son Lindh in "One Night in Bangkok".
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mwELXPGbA (Björn comes in at about 2:20)
/Yoss
4lb Kitty - Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:22 am
Yossarian wrote:
I don't care how you do it but i want to sound like Björn J:son Lindh in "One Night in Bangkok".
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mwELXPGbA (Björn comes in at about 2:20)
/Yoss
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mwELXPGbA (Björn comes in at about 2:20)
/Yoss
+1!!!
vocalid - Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:12 am
Yossarian wrote:
I don't care how you do it but i want to sound like Björn J:son Lindh in "One Night in Bangkok".
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mwELXPGbA (Björn comes in at about 2:20)
/Yoss
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9mwELXPGbA (Björn comes in at about 2:20)
/Yoss
YES! YEEEEEESSSS! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
jancivil - Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:39 pm
damn I'm needing your flute in this one I think. The warpIV one sounds fantastic but I am tempted to do a really florid solo and that's a PITA.
MRT - Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:09 pm
Any word on how this is progressing? You've got me intrested in this one.
Gregjazz - Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:57 pm
Going great, successful recording session, and I have a LOT of material to work with. 5 dynamics of sustains, harmonics, overblowing, all that good stuff. Plus, we recorded a bunch of phrases, too, just to add to the mix for those more esoteric effects. Oh, and we recorded it with three different mics as well as a stereo room pair, so you'll have 4 different signals to mix (as well as factory mix presets).
The flutist we sampled is super talented, too! Here's his website: http://www.mattanklein.com
Shramm - Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:58 pm
I'd like to get something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBbbHWUbBU
Gregjazz - Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:01 pm
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Shramm - Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:56 pm
Gregjazz wrote:
Got a mirror? It won't load due to copyright restrictions here
I answered in PM.
Btw, I just listened it once again and I thought that it might be cool (if it is possible, of course) if I was able to play flute with voice, singing unison the same notes (listen 'Burgundy Blues' at 2:02)
+ maybe additional key for taking breath (with velocities - from barely noticeable to the noisy one).
Gregjazz - Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:20 pm
Yup, got the PM, thanks!
We recorded a bunch of phrases that included that singing along technique. It's pretty popular in rock/blues flute playing, so that was a must. We also got a lot of percussive noises, like beat-boxing into the flute (think Greg Pattillo).
Breath noises? No problem!
Shramm - Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:22 pm
Gregjazz wrote:
Yup, got the PM, thanks!
We recorded a bunch of phrases that included that singing along technique. It's pretty popular in rock/blues flute playing, so that was a must. We also got a lot of percussive noises, like beat-boxing into the flute (think Greg Pattillo).
Breath noises? No problem!
We recorded a bunch of phrases that included that singing along technique. It's pretty popular in rock/blues flute playing, so that was a must. We also got a lot of percussive noises, like beat-boxing into the flute (think Greg Pattillo).
Breath noises? No problem!
Thanks in advance and good luck!
4lb Kitty - Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:26 pm
OMG, you're killing me!
Whencanwebuywhencanwehavewhencanwebuywhencanwehave?!?
juliansader - Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:13 pm
Please include the ability to smoothly morph between articulations and velocity layers!
For realistic flute solos, I think that there should, at the very least, be smooth morphing between different velocity layers and between vibrato and non-vibrato.
To achieve smooth morphing between vibrato and non-vibrato, as well as control over vibrato tempo and depth, it may be better to do vibrato with a pitch bend script instead of samples.
As discussed in previous posts, there are already several good flute sample libraries available. But none of these have morphing capabilities (and I have never been able to get Kontakt's built-in AET filter to work properly with these libraries), so if OTS's Jazz/Rock flute can include morphing, it will place OTS's product in a totally different league from all the others.
Another idea: It will also be very useful if breath noises from a male as well as a female player are included.
Gregjazz - Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:17 pm
juliansader wrote:
Please include the ability to smoothly morph between articulations and velocity layers!
For realistic flute solos, I think that there should, at the very least, be smooth morphing between different velocity layers and between vibrato and non-vibrato.
To achieve smooth morphing between vibrato and non-vibrato, as well as control over vibrato tempo and depth, it may be better to do vibrato with a pitch bend script instead of samples.
For realistic flute solos, I think that there should, at the very least, be smooth morphing between different velocity layers and between vibrato and non-vibrato.
To achieve smooth morphing between vibrato and non-vibrato, as well as control over vibrato tempo and depth, it may be better to do vibrato with a pitch bend script instead of samples.
Well, either you guessed really well or have inside information.
Yes, you'll be able to morph between dynamics to create swells and whatnot (that'll make it create for those who use wind/breath controllers). You'll also be able to dynamically change the vibrato depth and speed.
JAB3 - Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:28 am
Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000002I5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1310926035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
mellowstu - Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:08 pm
JAB3 wrote:
Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000002I5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1310926035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000002I5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1310926035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
Bela D media's Retro Flute does most of this and has keyswitches to play in real time. Its what i've been using and i like it a lot but i think/hope that Gregg will top it.
JAB3 - Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:27 pm
mellowstu wrote:
JAB3 wrote:
Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000002I5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1310926035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000002I5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1310926035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
Bela D media's Retro Flute does most of this and has keyswitches to play in real time. Its what i've been using and i like it a lot but i think/hope that Gregg will top it.
I beg to differ as I also have Bela D media's Retro Flute. It only has a few articulations/keyswitches and does not have the dynamic wide variation of playing techniques like the Herbie Mann examples. However, for the Austin Power's 60's type sounds, yes, you are right. Something about it still doesn't feel quite lively.
TristezaOrange - Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:53 pm
JAB3 wrote:
Can you make sure that you have articulations that let you play in the 60's/70's style jazz/funk flute format? There are currently no libraries that do this. Some examples are below. Listen to Herbi Mann's "Memphis Underground" on the link below.
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000002I5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1310926035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
http://www.amazon.com/Best-Herbie-Mann/dp/B000002I5U/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1310926035&sr=1-1
On the next link, rise and falls being able to be articulated like around 1:27 is good to have. And around 2:00 - 2:13 is an example of having a duet of two jazz flutes playing something in unison. If your tool had a dual harmonization mode, where you could play one note, but have two octaves of your choice play simultaneously, that would be great.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibBtkyA5FrA
And finally, The problem I have with most of the existing Kontakt flute libraries available by 3rd party vendors is that they have all of the different type of articulations broken out into separate kontakt files as opposed to having a large instrument that can in realtime play any articulation from one huge library with all of the articulations available and keymapped in one instrument. Look at the Scarbee funk Guitar Kontakt library for example.
Also, being able to do that whole 60's Austin Power's/British rock flute thing would be super too. Please consider all, and I am one of the 1st ones with my wallet open. Maybe you guys can do a callabo with OrangeTree and NativeInstruments. But it's got to be funky and soulful.. Tired of all this basic panflute, native, symphony/bach - only flute libraries.
Thanks,
JAB3
Have you tried the Warp IV flute?
Gregjazz - Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:21 pm
If you want to hear a quick sneak peek audio from the jazz/rock flute library, I just posted something on the Orange Tree Samples Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/orangetreesamples
Check it out, and become a fan of the OTS page for additional exclusive previews!
Shramm - Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:52 pm
Sounds exciting and promising!
PS. Greg, you make me give up my leisure with glass or two of pina coladas in favor of the flute.
Gregjazz - Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:54 pm
http://www.orangetreesamples.com/audio/Flutastic.mp3
Let me know what you think--going for a vintage tone by mixing in the room mics with the close ribbon mic. Played this in live through my keyboard (it's really fun and expressive to play!), then went back and tweaked a few things.
dickiefunk - Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:12 am
That sounds great Greg! Sounds like this library is shaping up nicely!!
There was a small phrase where you played a faster run and the flute sounded a little robotic but we're talking about 1-2 seconds. The rest of it is sounding very convincing!
TristezaOrange - Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:29 am
Gregjazz wrote:
http://www.orangetreesamples.com/audio/Flutastic.mp3
Let me know what you think--going for a vintage tone by mixing in the room mics with the close ribbon mic. Played this in live through my keyboard (it's really fun and expressive to play!), then went back and tweaked a few things.
Let me know what you think--going for a vintage tone by mixing in the room mics with the close ribbon mic. Played this in live through my keyboard (it's really fun and expressive to play!), then went back and tweaked a few things.
OMG. This cannot be a sample library. Seriously, this is not a real flute? All I can say is "When?!?!?!?"
PS. Is the vibrato adjustable? I imagine it is, since it is on all your other libraries but just thought I'd ask.
Gregjazz - Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:14 am
TristezaOrange wrote:
PS. Is the vibrato adjustable? I imagine it is, since it is on all your other libraries but just thought I'd ask.
The vibrato is actually completely scripted (modeled after real vibrato), so you can dynamically change the depth and speed.
Shramm - Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:15 am
And what about expression control? Does your flute allow to control dynamics with expression pedal (CC11)?
Gregjazz - Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:26 am
Shramm wrote:
And what about expression control? Does your flute allow to control dynamics with expression pedal (CC11)?
Yup--you get expression control as well as a separate control to crossfade between the 5 dynamic levels. Of course, you could automate both controls to respond to the same CC #, though I prefer to have separate control over them when I play/sequence.
gambaytheunspoken - Fri Jul 22, 2011 10:57 am
That's a nice sounding instrument. Does it capture some of these articulations?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QHtI838woY&feature=related
Ciao!
DrApostropheX - Mon Jul 25, 2011 7:31 am
Gregjazz wrote:
DocAtlas wrote:
Will it have a 'sung-style' articulation? I'm thinking of some Jethro Tull stuff I've heard; I can't think of any specific songs at the moment, but I'm really tired and not thinking too clearly right now. It sounds like an interesting product. (But now it's another library to save up for. And I'm already drooling over MesaWinds and the upcoming acoustic guitar lib. Maybe it's time you made some lousy products I wouldn't be tempted to buy! )
Yes--you're talking about where you hum while you play? That's on the "definitely sample" list. That articulation is a must for rock flute playing.
I believe Rahsaan Roland Kirk pioneered this technique. If you are in the mood for some wacked-out flute-playing techniques (yelling into the flute, playing just the keys like it's a log drum, shoving it into the bell of a saxaphone) to include as special FX in the library, you can check out pretty much any album he's done -- or this one video! (Jump to the 30 second mark)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_0UE7wjFYA
Gregjazz - Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:08 pm
Beta has been sent out. And now we wait...
Gregjazz - Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:47 pm
If any of you want to see the user's guide while I work on demo tunes, here it is:
http://www.orangetreesamples.com/download/PassionFluteUsersGuide.pdf
vocalid - Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:05 am
Any news on a release date?
Cheers, Ian
TristezaOrange - Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:35 am
Any news Greg?
Gregjazz - Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:16 pm
Working out final details, and then we should be good to go!
TristezaOrange - Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:11 pm
Coolness.
Tony Ostinato - Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:17 pm
im interested to check this out too.
mojamusic - Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:34 pm
I am excited about this instrument library also.
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