KVR :: Sound Design » excision - execute... how does it sound so huge??!! [View Original Topic]
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steadman - Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:49 pm

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how does he get that first bass to sound so dirty!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfHU7uyoD7A

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dusted william - Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:10 pm

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holy crap

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GeorgeZ - Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:21 pm

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...when it kicks in at 0.34? Doesn't seem that heavy to me Synthmaster with PM can do that if I'm not mistaken... Makes it crusty without sacrificing solidity and weight... hope that made sense.

PS: I'll see if I can make a quick video demo.

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GeorgeZ - Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:29 pm

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No video, can't be bothered. Attempt 1... just quickly after lunch:

http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/nhwowxhc5q/excision_bass_test.mp3

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dusted william - Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:42 pm

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pretty nice bass.

It's close, but missing something. Still, I'm sure with more time you could get it. Way better than what I could do.

Thanks for the tips.

dw

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GeorgeZ - Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:13 pm

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Cheers mate I had a listen again, and I think what could help it along even further is very light waveshaping then EQ + compression.

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steadman - Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:47 pm

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thanks for your help mate, ill get that synth and play around with it! ill be booked for shambhala in the month

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steadman - Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:36 am

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sorry but can you send me a link to this synth please, cant find it!

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Bronto Scorpio - Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:39 am

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http://www.kv331audio.com/synthmaster.aspx

Cheers
Dennis

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GeorgeZ - Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:53 am

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EDIT Dennis made his link clickable now

BTW, I'm busy programming a soundbank for SM2.5, and I'll do my darnedest to get this sound in there. I think this bank might be right up your alley (it's not done yet, but soon!).

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steadman - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:24 am

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yeah man definitely message me when its done

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classic - Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:50 am

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Here they have added a reverb that just lets through the low freqs and its reverbtail is pretty short, and it is to some degree quickly panned so it sound on both of your ears not the same time, Try this.

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Danolboy - Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:58 am

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Lots of layering and re-sampling/ processing of those layers

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steadman - Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:20 am

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only just got this synth today but realised that im gonna need a step by step guide to this one.. new synth and all. if anyone can help cheers

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swamiill - Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:00 am

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This is what I could make with Toxic.. I think i'm getting there X.X

listen to heavy murda

http://soundcloud.com/swamiill

*edit*

his sound is still WAY bigger. he must layer at least 3-4 basses all split at diff frequencies. just fiddle around with em and split em up in your mixer

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lilith2k3 - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:11 am

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The secret is distortion and some white noise

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qa2pir - Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:24 am

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formant filters

layering

frequency splitting

he has several little noisy treble bits panned around at one point during the bassline. the panning enhances the stumbling effect created by the timbre of slightly different attacks interrupting each other. lots of distortion, mostly very dry sounds each with its own slot in the frequency spectrum and timing (micro-pespective). generally there are three layers going on: sub (which is probably the same sound throughout), then the growling formant and then some presence in the form of brutally high-passed, gated, bit-crushed, FM'ed and distorted stuff (not necessarily all those but those are good places to begin) with lots of crunch. there might be more layers or fewer, but I think he always uses at least two sounds (either two VST's or two split channels from one source VST) for the bass in this track.

(the reverbed bass suggestion is very dubious).

sorry far hap-hazardly written, though hopefully insightful, post.

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GeorgeZ - Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:23 pm

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I'll see if I can get some patches sorted for you (moving house, so not a hell of a lot of time for anything music atm )

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SampleScience - Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:34 pm

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+ 1

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proevim - Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:32 am

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How did you make your beat so loud without clipping or distorting the kick and bass?

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GeorgeZ - Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:51 am

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Sidechain compression (was done pretty nasty and quickly... you'll actually hear the bass "duck" down in volume for the kick and the snare every time they hit. In general you'll want to fine tweak it so you can barely make out the "ducking", just hear huge bass and a thumping kick with no distortion or phase cancellation etc).

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domkane - Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:47 am

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Sounds to me like the bass has a high octave sync added to it, maybe three octaves over three oscillators, bottom one being sub/sinewave and the other two being hard-sync and sawtooth, and some heavy overdriven distortion in the high end, while the low end keeps its subby growl... I'll have a play tomorrow if I can and see what i can do.

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steadman - Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:34 am

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thanks for everyones help! doubt my cpus gonna be able to handle this

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biggert - Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:31 am

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wow massive drop :O is it possible with sylenth or massive?

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domkane - Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:03 am

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I just knocked this up quite quickly using one instance of NI Massive for the main bass, and then one instance of Ableton's Operator for a sine wave underneath.... Then lots of overdrive.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10601699/permalinks/DomKane_ExcisionBassline.mp3

Let me know if it's any good, and I can upload the Ableton project, or the Massive patch, or whatever.

D

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biggert - Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:53 pm

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@domkane wow nice :O can u upload that massive patch and tell a litle bit about your changes in ableton?

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dusted william - Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:24 pm

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yeah, really nice. I'd love to check out the patch and Live set.

-dw

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metamorphosis - Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:39 pm

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A lot of clipping and distortion imo

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domkane - Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:18 am

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No worries, here you go guys.

Ableton Project - http://goo.gl/0SL9J

NI Massive Patch (Main Bass) - http://goo.gl/kjYAA

Screen shot of FX Chain after the "Main Bass":


Hope this helps. I'll leave it in my dropbox for a while, so feel free to share those links around if it helps

Cheers,
D

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GeorgeZ - Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:41 am

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Not an exact answer to your (ie. not just for this song, but his bass sounds in general), but close enough, AND answered by excision himself:

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=844390&sid=abf91ef0927b4a84b704b9a80661f75c#p844390

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steadman - Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:45 am

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cheers for all this guys, its the reason i love this forum!

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GeorgeZ - Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:27 am

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No worries mate! BTW, working on a commercial mini-bank for Bulent which should be out soon, more nasty deep basses in there... just watch this space

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steadman - Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:57 am

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o no lol its nmsd file init! im still on the massive version that uses ksd however mate heres my new track coming out soon on highchai recordings http://soundcloud.com/earthwormjoe/breedsoundkillerearthwormjoeremix

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dusted william - Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:11 am

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nice.

dw

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