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Atardecer - Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:34 pm

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Hi there,

I'm one of those people that gets easily annoyed by seemingly innocuous things. At the moment, I have a beef with the proliferation of what I think are silly micro-genre terms to describe people's music. I've just turned 30 so perhaps it is a sign of old man syndrome. My pet hate is Chillstep. So what exactly is Chillstep? A fusion of dubstep and downtempo no doubt. Then why not call it Chilldown? (BTW, this goes hand in hand with my loathing of the the word 'Chillax').

Other offenders I've heard Chiptune - with the various supposed regional variances (cmon, Yorkshire aint that big), Illbient, Darkstep, Grime, Chillwave, Horrorcore blah blah blah.

Its getting out of control, to the point of it being ridiculous. I'm hearing new sub-genres by the day but I'm not hearing any new music to justify it. I blame Trip Hop and Dubstep.

Old man rant over.

Ps. The only variant I currently accept as satisfactory is Broken Beat as it does what it says on the tin.

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RunBeerRun - Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:45 pm

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Moar toan and brootz!!

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Atardecer - Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:33 pm

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Eh?

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Chuck E. Jesus - Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:55 pm

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the 90's called to say nobody gave a shit then...

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Atardecer - Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:02 pm

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And again. Eh?

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Chuck E. Jesus - Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:13 pm

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c'mon, you are an "old man" now, can't you figure this shit out by yourself?

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debra1rlo - Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:15 pm

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i am going to eat activia yogurt and send videos of my bowel movements to Jamie Lee Curtis. she likes that sort of thing.

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trimph1 - Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:06 pm

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I cain't hear ya!!!!!

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Atardecer - Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:12 pm

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You'll have to speak in CAPS I'm afraid. Hearing's not what it used to be. Nor are my bowels.

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ZenPunkHippy - Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:18 pm

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Chillstep sounds fine to me. Instantly recognisable as downtempo dubstep. Won't be confused with other genres. The "step" part suggests movement and flow. What's not to like?

Peace,
Andy.

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aciddose - Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:24 pm

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chiptune as a genre is extremely stupid. the term doesn't describe a genre though, it describes any music made using what are referred to as "chip sounds" - your basic waveforms as found produced by early home computers.

as a technical term it might have the connotation of very small, simple compositions produced in a tracker-like format using exclusively 16ths (sometimes adjustable, but usually) timing quantization.

polyphony is usually severely limited. one, two, three or four channels being most common. (the c64's sid had three, for example.) this means frequent use of sounds including sequenced parameter changes. for example a snare drum would include not a smooth, complex envelope and mixture of components but a quick switching from white noise to a triangle wave followed by descending pitch in steps. arpeggios in place of chords. frequent voice-stealing - for example a single voice might be shared between hats, kick, snare, toms, bass and an arp.

so with all the specifics here i think the term is very justified - even if it's a bit stupid. "old style computer music" might make more sense.

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ZenPunkHippy - Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:25 pm

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p.s. I've always found "psymbient" a step too far, but OTOH it's useful for separating out certain types of chill out music. Specifically, those that aspire to the same production values and techniques used in psy and goa trance. Something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yDvfUqO8Q

The way this track is constructed is just different compared to other styles of chill out music e.g. chilled IDM or whatever. The label helps me find this music and more like it, without having to skip through loads of stuff I'm not very interested in.

Peace,
Andy.

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JJBiener - Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:59 pm

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In my opinion, these micro-genres were created, or at least inspired, by the marketing types. What is going to get more noticed, saying you play electronic dance music, or that you are the best electro-chill-ambient group on the scene. It is about differentiation in the marketplace, and garnering attention.

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Bonteburg - Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:08 am

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The thing is, each of these names and subnames means something very specific to an equally specific group of people knowing exactly what to look for - genres and subgenres make all the sense in the world! It's like eskimo words for snow*.

Even if you were to abolish subgenre names by lay you'd still get people describing their music of choice at 'that particular kind of metal band XYZ from Andorra makes, you know, with the rubber chicken samples?'

Talking of Metal - you could easily start criticising genre differentiation right there, where it makes sense to most people, because it's a large enough subgroup.

*yes I know it's a myth...

Marco

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Guenon - Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 am

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I can honestly say I've never been annoyed with a subgenre definition, even though I'm not in the habit of using extra specific names for genres myself.

And also, chiptune, huh? It's an old, valid definition for what it is. This is the first time I've even come to think the word might annoy someone. I've used the word for twenty years, [which is probably why I] never thought it was weird / too specific

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Bonteburg - Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:43 am

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That's exactly what I'm talking about - who is going to draw the line?

I live next to my grandmother. She wouldn't even know Status Quo from Marilyn Manson. Then again, B.B. King probably would and he's about her age.

I've also heard people call DnB music 'Techno', just like that.

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aciddose - Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:19 am

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well techno is a sub genre itself, while the widely agreed upon group of genres is most often referred to as "electronica", i just drop the "a" and called it plain old "electronic music".

there are a lot of people stuck in the 80s though calling it techno.

(chiptunes fall under electronic, while they're sure not techno!)

when i'm thinking "techno", i'm thinking something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jQ_bOP0HfY

although you might normally hear more juno-60 and mono synths there rather than the 909 and m1 and so on. that's it in general though.

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GeckoYamori - Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:24 am

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Chiptune is just a way of making music. You can make chiptunes that fall under any other genre.

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kritikon - Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:43 am

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If you've got trouble with your bowels and you've only just turned 30, you've got a whole world of amazement and frustration yet to come. It's barely started...

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geroyannis - Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:10 am

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Yes, techno.

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whyterabbyt - Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:16 am

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not particularly, in Europe. Its mostly a US-centric useage.

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aciddose - Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:32 am

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well if we're making a decision based upon the majority "techno" and "video game music" wins hands down.

not a very smart argument though as it manages to completely ignore the details of the issue. that is, for those who know the genre "techno" doesn't equate to other genres like "house" much like "electro" doesn't equate to "gabber" and are aware of the potential for confusion, even "electronica" isn't a very good name.

i vote for "technotronica".

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Bonteburg - Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:50 am

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I don't know - if techno is a subgenre in itself then what is something like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H28Cjbv51Yc

compared to say the 808 State tune? They both could reasonably called Techno though the difference couldn't be more obvious (I'm more of a Shufflemaster person myself when it comes to 4/4).

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aciddose - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:04 am

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i think techno has in some places become a genre much like "80s". if not exactly like "80s" only pointing to a slightly different set of styles around the same time.

the old ridiculous sub-genres either meld together or the names get recycled so often they just no longer mean anything even remotely like what they were originally used to describe.

there is another example that i would say fits into the "techno" category these days. is it trance? not by modern standards. i've heard it called that more than anything. i've also heard "rave" and "techno" used frequently for the whole group of tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZFW6wiDONE

the person who wrote the details for the clip seems to agree with the way i prefer to label such things. electronic/techno.

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sqigls - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:15 am

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This is truly the most level headed, entertaining and funny thread I have read in a long time. You people are most welcome at the next Tri-Anual Psychonaut Soapbox Shennanigans Tournament for the Sidewaysly Gifted here in Nowtown Funsylvania.

Unfortunately, it's describe or BE descibed.

It's worse when you're just trying to upload an idea to share on soundcloud. I feel lacklustre enough without resorting to the "Electronic" genre. Well, it's either that or ROCK, and my tubes need replacing so I guess it's back to the ol' genre drawing board for THIS old war-horse. Clean out my pots and call me mal-adjusted, cos I is Fluff-Step.


Thanks guys and gals

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aciddose - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:21 am

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just consider yourself lucky for not being the one to invent skacid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l84p2WyzyCM

don't get me started... and buddha-hop.

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sqigls - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:29 am

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People call the now vibrationaly smooshed genre of 'Goa Trance' - "Psychedelic Trance", which I feel is quit often about as psychedelic as getting beaten to death at 16ths with a 4x2. I guess if you read the varied dictionary definitions of 'psychedelic' then you could be right either way!? I myself feel that the word implys some form of ambience and could not genuinely exist within a dark and abrasive 'sub-shaman' mutilation of frequencies. But each to their own.

Chill-step isn't the worst I've heard. Like Andy says, it is pretty straight forward. I do understand where you're coming from though.

I still call most of my favourite dance-music "psychedelic techno" though for some reason, so i guess I'm my own ignorant non-progressive worst enemy when it comes to getting cheesed off about music sub-genres.

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sqigls - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:31 am

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WOW! Coming from a fan of both Ska and the sound of the TB303, I must say, THAT is WELL bad.

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ZenPunkHippy - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:36 am

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There is a very distinct difference between goa and psy trance ... so don't get me started on that one

Peace,
Andy.

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sqigls - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:42 am

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10-4 rubberducky

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ZenPunkHippy - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:46 am

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It is all a bit of a joke really, but sub-genres are still very useful ...

Does anyone still listen to Hard House?

Peace,
Andy.

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Bonteburg - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:49 am

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Hmm - I'm liking it. Imagine this in the context of a mixset.

There should be more of a transition between the Ska and Acid parts though.

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trimph1 - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:49 am

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I listen to SubMicroBacterialScratchDubStep.....

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Martin [Camel Web Guy] - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:51 am

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ummm - I've had old Mrs Woods, Blu Peter and Tony De Vit mixes on recently and thoroughly enjoyed them

A recent beatport newsletter enlightened me to the following new genres...

- Complexico
- Moombahton

The first sounds like very bad dub step and the later exactly the same as what was being called Baltimore a couple of years ago - just to save your ears and finding out for yourself

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ZenPunkHippy - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:54 am

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Tried listening to some of this on Youtube recently ... definitely not "getting it" ...

Peace,
Andy.

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aciddose - Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:54 am

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hey, i love skacid you insensitive clods

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BERFAB - Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:04 am

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Sorry, I just couldn't get past this statement. I wear jeans older than you.

I'm told 50 is the new 30. Don't give up so easily.

Cheers
-B

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whyterabbyt - Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:16 am

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sqigls - Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:42 am

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clod...
is that a clever mod? or just a clueless old dag?

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Chuck E. Jesus - Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:09 am

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crack house

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Chuck E. Jesus - Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:14 am

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i actually remember that song from One House Street

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Meffy - Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:15 am

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^^^ got banned for trolling.

Kermit and Miss Piggy: banned for being muppets.

Johnny Storm: banned for flaming.

The Clangers: sock* puppetry.

Simple Simon: asking for warez.

[edit] * And anyone who points out the Clangers weren't actually made from socks will be warned for knit-picking.

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robojam - Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:29 am

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Yes, scat is another subgenre that annoys me...

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trimph1 - Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:30 am

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Clangers were Clingers....

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Atardecer - Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:37 pm

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Perhaps it is just recognition of the fact that I am not Gen Y. I dont like Gen Y - they have no taste Which was exactly the criticism levelled at Gen X by Baby Boomers who couldnt understand why we liked Grunge and didnt like Disco.

I agree it's more about marketing and showmanship. In honor of that I'm inventing Grungestep. It seems all you need to do is think of a word and add a step, wave or core to the end of it. Perhaps I might amend it to Shaftesburycore. Shaftesbury being the name of the street I live on.

PS. Complexico is my new nemesis.

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Bonteburg - Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:05 pm

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debra1rlo - Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:56 pm

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but it's nice to know that we've officially moved past the 2 girls/1 cup era.

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aciddose - Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:33 pm

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what? into the one girl two cups era? where Jamie Lee Curtis will inspect bowel movements produced in correlation with the consumption of various brands of yogurts and judge them in a contest not entirely unlike "america's got talent" called "america's got cultures".

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kritikon - Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:03 am

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Anything-step is so yesterday. Today it's ciderhouse roolz.

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trimph1 - Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:44 am

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Meh-Pubhouse

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aMUSEd - Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:50 am

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Shed!!

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trimph1 - Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:55 am

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Outhouse!!!

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nix808 - Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:21 am

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gotta be s#ithouse now

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trimph1 - Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:28 am

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...then into Drainhouse

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kritikon - Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:48 am

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Not hard enough. Gotta be bricks#ithouse...

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trimph1 - Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:26 am

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steelcorehouse...

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deathwish - Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:09 am

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Metal on the internet:
death metal, black metal, gore metal, thrash metal, melodic death metal, blackened death metal, technical death metal, sludge metal, deathcore, progressive metal, mathcore, grindcore, nu-metal, power metal, doom metal... metal has too many genres when it's mostly just terrible loud distorted guitars/screaming/growling

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deathwish - Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:15 am

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alternative rock:

Britpop - College rock - Dream pop - Grunge - Indie rock - Indie pop - Jangle pop - Math rock - Noise pop - Noise rock - Post-Britpop - Post-grunge - Post-rock - Paisley Underground - Shoegazing

^ can people even tell the difference? lol

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deathwish - Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:17 am

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Punk:
Anarcho-punk • art punk • Christian punk • crust punk • garage punk • glam punk • hardcore punk • oi! • Riot Grrrl • skate punk
2 Tone • anti-folk • avant-punk • Celtic punk • Chicano punk • cowpunk • deathrock • folk punk • Gaelic punk • Gypsy punk • pop punk • psychobilly • punk blues • punk jazz • ska punk

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ZenPunkHippy - Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:19 am

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Well, yes ... if you listen to enough of it ... but ultimately, it's just "rock music" (not even "alternative").

Same goes for electronic genres. You really have to listen to (say) psychedelic and goa trance for some time before the difference between them becomes obvious. Otherwise, it just sounds like thump-thump-widdle-thump.

Peace,
Andy.

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ntom - Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:13 pm

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Only got through reading the first page before I was itching to respond...will read the rest soon.

As many responded, it is absolutely silly to be annoyed with the word "Chiptune". As one mentioned, it might be silly to call a genre "Chiptune" since Chiptune is a term used for a technique of music producing.
Funnily enough though, I started a similar topic not that long ago myself, mostly about electronic genres and a brilliant source was provided...I don't remember it and it's bookmarked at home, but I'm at work now - will provide later if someone doesn't beat me to it -
By far the most utterly rediculous genre is so rediculous it's actually histerical. Happycore (or...technically "Happy Hardcore")

Now of course a lot of people here are saying the genres are there to be a tag to identify more exact what kind of music it is. Now I can agree with this to an extent, but I also believe a lot of these genres emerged because someone believed their obvious techno track wasn't your "standard techno" that you hear and so they called it "Buttf*ckin'" and soon enough everyone thought "buttfuckin'" was cool shit and started writing "Buttf*ckin'" music.

People want their music to seem COMPLETELY original so obviously their "completely original" music MUST have it's own genre. I think it's stupid myself, which is why I try to give most of my tags an accurate TRUE genre. Such as...Techno. or Electronica. The only times I don't tag normally is if I am joking around or otherwise don't care. Joking around, for example, calling "Trance" "Tarnce" or "Darnce".

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aciddose - Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:30 pm

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_hardcore

you're choosing some of the oldest genres to pick out as the worst and not attacking what "trance" has evolved into?

"trance" music as defined in the early 90s would make most modern "trance kiddies" vomit. they would never, ever admit to it being "trance" music at all. yet that is what it was originally called and that is the origin of the music they love today.

there are "facts" that you "believe", and there is "history"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trance_music

"... other suggestions trace the name to the actual trance-like states the earliest forms of the music attempted to emulate in the 1990s before the genre's focus changed.[1]"

as i do.

our name for it is "tracne" - "track acne" by the way due to it's common love from adolescents with skin problems. much like the pimples on the face of it's listeners, "tracne" is a pimple on the ass of the butt of electronica. although the anal-ogy doesn't end there, as it's moon-like qualities still shine through from time to time from it's roots just like... well you get the idea.

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ZenPunkHippy - Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:51 pm

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@ntom - if you want to understand what is going on you need to read this article by Simon Reynolds. It covers in very minute detail everything that contributes towards the music you are ratting on. How it evolves and why some of it becomes mainstream, while other stuff just fades a way.

http://energyflashbysimonreynolds.blogspot.com.au/2009/02/hardcore-continuum-or-theory-and-its.html

It's a brilliant lecture / article. Enjoy

Peace,
Andy.

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ZenPunkHippy - Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:55 pm

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... while you're reading, here's some classic acid techno to enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AH_5OyCsco

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MickGael - Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:57 pm

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Most annoying music sub-genre? Norwegian Carpenter's songs.

"Good evening. We apologize most sincerely to those of you who have bought this record under the impression this it was in any way connected with the television program, Monty Python's Flying Circus. This was due to an error in the printing stage of the album cover. This album is in fact called 'Pleasures of the Dance', a collection of Norwegian Carpenter's songs compiled by Oscar Trict."

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flynsk - Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:03 pm

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Good thing you gave us a full hour's worth, this thread will never end.

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ZenPunkHippy - Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:04 pm

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LONDON

ACID

TECHNO

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flynsk - Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:26 pm

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So Andy,

I know you know your punk. I'm reading the article you linked and wondering: How do you keep track of the sub-sub genres of electronic and punk at the same time?

I can't even get a handle on what genre I, myself, play.

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ZenPunkHippy - Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:09 pm

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There is a very strong link between the punk scene and techno, trance and other genres of rave music, particularly in the UK. The early punk bands (Velvet Underground era and later the UK scene) showed us that anyone could start a band.

Cut forward to the late 80's and in to the 90's and suddenly you have these (cheap at the time) drum machines and synths that proved, once again, anyone could make a noise and perform, put on parties, in true DIY spirit, outside of "the system".

Acid techno (as linked above) was a huge part of that, particularly because it has a slightly aggressive nature similar to punk. Trance less so, but the fairly rigid structure of the music and constant 4 to the floor beat let's us express our energy without the aggression of the mosh pit.

The attitude of the people in certain parts of the underground electronic scene is very socially oriented, and generally adheres to the PLUR principal (peace, love, unity, respect). For example, many of my female friends have always felt very safe at underground techno or trance parties knowing that they generally won't be hit on or put in uncomfortable situations (although obviously it does happen).

Anyway ... once I hit the underground electronic music scene in the mid 90's I found myself moving away from punk and metal and never looked back. Haven't kept up with rock / punk / metal, although do love a bit of psychedelic or space rock now and again.

As for electronic music, I'm stuck in a bit of a time warp ... I guess we reach an age where all the avenues have been explored, there really isn't anything "new" in terms of rhythms or sounds and so we settle in to the groove that makes us feel the happiest. Still always on the lookout for the new sounds though ... gotta do our best to keep it interesting*

Peace,
Andy.

* and hope that wasn't too self indulgent or boring to read!

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DWB2 - Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:09 pm

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This is spot on, I think.

From a distance it looks like a lot of these things are micro-niches within micro-niches, but then you look at some of the bigger online record shops and find out that at least 964 death-prog-garage records have been released in the last month...

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DWB2 - Thu Mar 08, 2012 4:15 pm

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I think we reach an age where new music is no longer forward thinking rebels blowing away the tired old rubbish with crazy new shit, it's young hoodlums destroying everything that's good and worthwhile about music with their appalling trashy noise.

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ZenPunkHippy - Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:25 pm

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Spot on!

Now get off my lawn!!!

Peace,
Andy.

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bailees7irish - Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:30 pm

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Witch house

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trimph1 - Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:34 pm

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Whose House,

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A.M. Gold - Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:01 am

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I ask everyone from Wellington on KVR this (well, all two of you):

Ever seen (Sir) Peter Jackson around town?

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flynsk - Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:22 am

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Not at all. It's always interesting to get different perspectives.

No doubt, the UK's electronic scene took a big departure from what was going on in the US in the 90's. zeitgeist i guess.

I've never been into trance/techno scene much, but the goth\industrial\ebm ( i could go on) scene here shares a lot parallels with punk. The trouble here is, there are all-ages punk shows every weekend (maybe not anymore), but live electronic music is rare, and usually only at 21+ venues, so there's less opportunity for people to get introduced to new music in those genres at a young age, and take up the reigns. If a venue is going to book a gig, they're usually a big touring lineup that will draw a crowd, and they're all over the radio already. I expect it works differently in the UK because there's so much evolution so fast.

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flynsk - Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:57 am

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Yeah, but it will betray you at some point. As soon as you name it, somebody wants in who doesn't belong there.

I guess it depends on who's in control. At least one of those 964 was probably coded by some 3rd party and would never call themselves "prog." and 10 or more uploaded themselves are are actually bro-step

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nixnutz - Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:26 pm

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I can track the argument but I tend to see the other side of it. I think it limits creativity, and specifically accelerates the process whereby new innovations solidify into genre conventions.

Like the way grunge went from being a mostly meaningless term describing a range of rock music made by former hardcore kids to a formula of Nirvana riffs and Pearl Jam vocals in just a couple of years.

So you start a project inspired by your love of IDM and shoegaze and when you're tagged "witch house" you now have to deal with the expectations and prejudices of that fan base. I'm sure there are better examples, that one isn't even exactly a real thing but you get the idea.

At the same time, some of the terms are clever and make a lot of sense, I really like "screw gaze" for similar artists, it's just so apt. And I've sort of been toying with some doomstep stuff largely because the name compels someone to do it. Although with guitars instead of wubwubwubs it would really just be some form of illbient anyway.

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mumpcake - Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:44 pm

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Guitars + wubwub = wubmetal

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deathwish - Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:14 pm

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shoegaze is another stupid genre name that makes no sense.

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Chuck E. Jesus - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:19 pm

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it makes perfect sense...all rock, no roll, grow some hair, stare at your shoes...

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Chuck E. Jesus - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:26 pm

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it's just so awesome you've been a member of KVR for 10 years and only posted 64 times...that is very impressive

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SadPuppyBlues - Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:41 pm

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Most of the real genres mentioned in this thread make sense and are useful. Most of the joke genres totally miss the mark.

Are you guys really incapable of telling the difference between standard Brit-Pop and Shoegaze? Really?

Like, really?

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debra1rlo - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:11 pm

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nah, just completely incapable of caring there's a difference.

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quayquay17 - Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:31 pm

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I'm sure its been hashed over but here's why they exist and why they are nice.

WORLD WITHOUT SUB GENRES
You ask your co-worker to put on some rock. You get 80's metal. You wanted adult alternative.

It's like if people complained about having names for cheesesteaks, burgers, butties, subs, reubens, etc. Sure, they are all stuff between two pieces of bread that you eat so who cares right? But when i'm in the mood for a burger, you better not bring me a salad sandwhich on rye.

Similarly, you don't want to have to explain the specific type of music completely, just have a name for it. Imagine if you could only ask for a sandwhich, and then had to ask for them to put it on a sesame bun, and instead of deli meat use a barbecued circular patty of beef, with lettuce and tomato...
ayayaye

For those that consume (read enjoy) listening to different types of music, and talk about that music with others, it's a vital tool. Otherwise that cool trip-hop group i found last night would become an exhausting list of their techniques and style.

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SadPuppyBlues - Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:25 am

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+1 upvote this to the top

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deathwish - Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:28 am

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nope

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SadPuppyBlues - Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:49 pm

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Sometimes I get the impression that a lot of people here listen to more product demos than actual new artists.

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debra1rlo - Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:15 pm

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those are the jokes, son, I don't dance.


actually, though, to reply to your earlier post, shoegaze actually has a reason it was called that, not just vaguely meaningful words thrown together like "happy house" or "dubstep" appear to be...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoegazing

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robojam - Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:31 pm

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Well that and the heavy use of powerful narcotics...

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mumpcake - Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:11 pm

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You forgot polka punk. (or is it punk polka?)

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aciddose - Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:13 pm

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polka punk and punk polka are two very distinct genres. to get them mixed up you'd have to be some kind of skid?

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debra1rlo - Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:40 pm

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i invented ambient death polka. not any of you.

and it's most annoying of all because even if you could sound like the artists who influenced it and even if you could write a song using the regimented chord structures and bpm's and proper instruments, I am the ultimate decider of what belongs in this micro-sub-genre, and I would still say it sounded like ambient death samba or happy maim klezmer.

just to annoy you.
see, told ya.

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trimph1 - Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:45 pm

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feigh on all your micro-sub-genres!!

Illbientdeathjazzpolkadubstep is teh bestest!!!!

So there....

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robojam - Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:51 pm

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It's really just a derivative of Frying Pan music though...

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debra1rlo - Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:55 pm

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well, Frying Pan is just SauteStep with an inverse amount of wubwub on the bass, innit?

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aciddose - Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:48 pm

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i will buy that album.

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aciddose - Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:50 pm

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uh, no.

i prefer my bass with a lemon-garlic herb butter sauce.

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debra1rlo - Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:15 pm

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grillex?

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kcisANDderit - Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:00 am

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Bassnectar is that to me (tho i don't know if anyone agrees)

chillstep!

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