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mothergarage - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:10 am
No thread on this yet?
Tyrell N6 Version 2.0 is out!!
Crackbaby - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:13 am
o.O .. Downloading!
PietW. - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:14 am
mothergarage wrote:
Ups. Thanks for the Information.
mabian - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:26 am
Shocking news.
Thank you!
- Mario
filkertom - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:31 am
Yowzah! Thanks!
Crackbaby - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:36 am
Chorus from diva!
Echoes in the Attic - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:39 am
It just looks like a new skin. And doesn't particularly look like one that Urs would have made.
VariKusBrainZ - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:44 am
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
penguinfromdeep - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:44 am
It says it has a new chorus and also some subtle improvements to the sound
thecontrolcentre - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:49 am
Thanks for the link
Teksonik - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:49 am
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
+1 Tyrell's simple beauty has been destroyed by this monstrosity........who OK'd that skin?
But anyway it's got a Chorus......Thank Urs for that and for version 2..........
darsho - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:53 am
the Chorus is really good, nice update
thecontrolcentre - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:58 am
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
No doubt there will be many alternatives available soon bpblog - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:01 am
thecontrolcentre wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
No doubt there will be many alternatives available soon someone call nBeat, quick!
thecontrolcentre - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:05 am
bpblog wrote:
thecontrolcentre wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
No doubt there will be many alternatives available soon someone call nBeat, quick!
Examigan - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:11 am
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
I kinda like it
and will check it out after work today
necho2 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:21 am
argh.
awful skin.
really really awful.
satYatunes - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:24 am
Skin is okay but could be better. What are the changes? Is there a release note somewhere?
hakey - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:32 am
satYatunes wrote:
What are the changes?
The exceedingly good chorus algos from Diva have been added.
And oscillator tune mod for stacked voices behaves differently to V1 - it now works as one would expect it to, but it means that stacked voice tuned patches built on Tyrell V1 will sound quite different in V2.
Anyone spotted any other differences?
Krakatau - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:32 am
if the ugliness of the skin is fully proportional to the quality of the sound, were is the issue ?
kmonkey - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:35 am
Krakatau wrote:
if the ugliness of the skin is fully proportional to the quality of the sound, were is the issue ?
Exactly! Who care about it anyway? This is AWESOME synth for free and it is being upgraded. YES!!
liquid wind - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:38 am
I actually like this skin, guess I'm the only one!
3ee - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:43 am
Got it now!
hakey - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:48 am
The space to the right of the chorus looks about the right size for a simple delay.
3ee - Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:15 am
Yeah, noticed some small differences here and there but the big one was the voice mod.
Lovely Chorus!
A bit disappointed on not knowing about the release ... would have updated all of my patches and done some more for the factory sound bank. :/
3ee - Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:17 am
hakey wrote:
The space to the right of the chorus looks about the right size for a simple delay.
...or another chorus
braj - Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:17 am
The chorus is sweet, but my kingdom for a new skin!
Mattiiiii - Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:38 am
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
What exactly did you expect if a bassist (yes, that's what it says on the Amazona site) makes the skin for a synth?
nBeat - Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:46 am
braj wrote:
...but my kingdom for a new skin!
AHA! Ok, I'll accept your offer.
Deal?
sinkmusic - Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:46 am
Wow, is there a killer new feature implemented in Tyrell v2 which would make me sad-masochisticaly want to look at such a skin more than half a second ?
Will Tyrell v3 look like Ms-Dos ?
I nearly had to shut my computer off after such a taste hi-jack
Thanks for the info, by the way
fceramic - Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:51 am
Damn that GUI is horrible! Still can't complain about free stuff!
V'ger - Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:11 pm
Great chorus, ugly-as-hell GUI.
braj - Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:25 pm
The original skin was basic but attractive, this skin is just weird in its fugliness
Crackbaby - Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:50 pm
I don't mind a little darker GUI for Tyrell
The knobs and faders looks great. The outer background is .. not what i expected. The inner background looks sort of cool but distracts the eye making it hard to see what the knobs do. I find the led at the top the easiest thing to rest my eyes on.
brok landers - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:06 pm
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
that is a shit skin.....bwarf
indeed, that skin is butt ugly, the original skin by urs was way better. but it's a freebie and therefore it's a nitpick... anyway, it's the sound that counts, and isn't it skinable?
Kaboom75 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:13 pm
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks U-HE team this thing sounds soo good it feels like I stole it.
The skin looks great.
Tp3 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:21 pm
Well, that's what happens when a SYNTHESIZER is designed by a BASSIST
I don't get... two of the most gorgeous interfaces are flying around here, and they had to choose THIS ?
Anyway, THANKS ! this is a GREAT synth.
paterpeter - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:21 pm
What a nice surprise! Thanks a lot Urs! And yeah, I'll have to chime in: I don't like the new skin. Can't the v1 skin be ported to v2?
Kaboom75 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:26 pm
The knobs and sliders are far better it can only be the border that people don't like I would rather that looked industrial mesh or carbon fiber.
Aiynzahev - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:38 pm
Well this is great news! Thanks for the heads up I am excited about this. I hope someone makes a nice GUI for this synth soon. This has got to be one of the best freeware synth's available.
nBeat - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:39 pm
Kaboom75 wrote:
The knobs and sliders are far better it can only be the border that people don't like I would rather that looked industrial mesh or carbon fiber.
But carbon fiber is so expensive. bmrzycki - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:40 pm
From what I understood Urs was under the gun with several Messe projects and didn't make that GUI. I wouldn't be surprised if a V2.0.1 showed up relatively soon. So enjoy the sounds and don't worry about the GUI for now.
moutkie08 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:44 pm
Kaboom75 wrote:
The knobs and sliders are far better it can only be the border that people don't like I would rather that looked industrial mesh or carbon fiber.
i would remove that "effect" on the black background, would change the border, remove the amazona.de logo (would hate if it was kvr too..) , one thing that i like is that now the small view is usable ...but can't it be set as default mode view?
thnaks for this synth, yesterday i was about to do a post if this synth would ever get a nice set of fx's...one its already there
filkertom - Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:58 pm
Well, I think it sounds fantastic, and I don't mind the skin all that much. However, in keeping with the general outrage on this thread, I've already reskinned it with a freshly-caught dead squirrel motif. Problem is, it keeps sliding down the screen....
Teksonik - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:01 pm
Kaboom75 wrote:
The knobs and sliders are far better
No, they're not........
Kaboom75 wrote:
it can only be the border that people don't like
No it's the whole thing I don't like. nBeat's skins are 1000 times better than this. It's boggles the mind why one of those skins isn't the default.
Tyrell is a retro synth. It's not supposed to look like Absynth on acid.....the nbeat skins capture the spirit of Tyrell and are period correct in my opinion....
Yes I get that it's a freebie and I'm grateful to Urs and even to the author of this new skin for his efforts but I won't even bother upgrading until it gets a proper skin. I've got Chorus Plugins......
PlasticSoul - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:14 pm
I liked this skin and thanks for the update!
mabian - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:22 pm
Detune and output knobs are not moving when dragged here, even though their value on numeric display changes; anyone?
- Mario
paterpeter - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:24 pm
mabian wrote:
Detune and output knobs are not moving when dragged here, even though their value on numeric display changes; anyone?
- Mario
- Mario
Confirmed here!
Crackbaby - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:31 pm
Confirmed here also.
Btw, has anyone noticed pops on some presets?
I got them earlier today but cant reproduce it now/find the right presets. My computer can handle Tyrell more than well so i doubt that latency was the problem!
Im starting to like the GUI more and more
Maybe i can *hack* the data folder to change the background. mabian - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:31 pm
Also, it seems every sound it produces is strictly mono (correlation meter always 1; is it expected? No oscillator panning available)?
- Mario
osiris - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:40 pm
I had a go. Can confirm the knob issue, but values change. I know it sounds mono, but just click the Chorus on, and .....wow!!!!
(I think most of these sounds were made for v1 and the chorus isn't turned on)
Lovely, lovely. Thanks so much Urs. BTW, Osc 1 & 2 aren't labeled but I'm assuming 1= Saw & 2=Pulse?
Still some big CPU. OBX Pad (?) hit 50% with 2 voice poly and 3 notes played.
Teksonik - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:46 pm
Wow what a difference....The top one looks like someone's first Synth Edit project and the second one looks just like Tyrell sounds.....
braj - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:48 pm
Teksonik wrote:
Wow what a difference....The top one looks like someone's first Synth Edit project and the second one looks just like Tyrell sounds.....
Yep, please someone port that skin ASAP (what is the name again? I have the one with red text).
Sendy - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:50 pm
Why would you take the waveforms off of the "Wave" knob? WHY?!
osiris - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:51 pm
I don't like the brown and the knobs look like SE jobs....
I like the new GUI, I just don't like that strange border around it. I also think the black could be more...deinterlaced (?)
hakey - Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:58 pm
mabian wrote:
Also, it seems every sound it produces is strictly mono (correlation meter always 1; is it expected? No oscillator panning available)?
Open a Tyrell patch file in a text editor and alter "MMT1=0" to "MMT1=VCA1:Pan". Open the patch in Tyrell and "VCA1:Pan" will now appear as the first mod matrix slot destination.
osiris wrote:
Osc 1 & 2 aren't labeled but I'm assuming 1= Saw & 2=Pulse?
Osc1 = Sine>Tri>Saw>Pulse, Osc2 = Saw>Pulse
Teksonik - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:04 pm
osiris wrote:
the knobs look like SE jobs....
You mean on the new one right? They don't even look like knobs just a blob of black with a pointer.....Oh well I guess there is no accounting for taste.......or lack of it........
Teksonik - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:09 pm
Sendy wrote:
Why would you take the waveforms off of the "Wave" knob? WHY?!
Inexperience......
Anyway I've been giving version one a good workout today along with some third party Chorus and Delay and Tyrell is just a joy to play. It's sound is just pure quality. A million thumbs up and thanks to Urs for this masterpiece...
Teksonik - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:12 pm
braj wrote:
Yep, please someone port that skin ASAP (what is the name again? I have the one with red text).
nBeat has posted in this thread. That's one of his skins and I think he does plan on updating it....(we can hope)....
Cyforce - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:15 pm
Nice update, but the new gui design, hmmmm
Sendy - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:21 pm
I feel a strong compulsion to stick to the old version for now... It sounds brilliant as it is... And it LOOKS brilliant right now as well. That's pretty important to me, however silly that may seem.
nBeat - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:21 pm
Teksonik wrote:
braj wrote:
Yep, please someone port that skin ASAP (what is the name again? I have the one with red text).
nBeat has posted in this thread. That's one of his skins and I think he does plan on updating it....(we can hope)....
Teksonik - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:34 pm
nBeat wrote:
I will upadate my skin sometime tomorrow, yes.
Thank you for all the hard work Sir. You are indeed a gentleman of generosity.....
braj - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:35 pm
So I have Diva, I'm just wondering if Tyrell is kinda redundant for a Diva user. From my experience they use nearly the same CPU too
The main thing is it is another synth to play with and a bunch of other presets to work with. I know that is off-topic but while we are at it, what do you think? Anything about Tyrell that can't be done in Diva? justin3am - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:52 pm
In Tyrell, you can trigger envelopes from the LFOs ala Roland SH-2 and such. I always liked that trick for creating psuedo-apeggiated/sequenced sounds. You can't do that with any other U-He synth.
braj - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:54 pm
justin3am wrote:
In Tyrell, you can trigger envelopes from the LFOs ala Roland SH-2 and such. I always liked that trick for creating psuedo-apeggiated/sequenced sounds. You can't do that with any other U-He synth.
Cool! I'll have to try that.
Aiynzahev - Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:57 pm
What about recreating that hardware box as a GUI? Although maybe not the yellow, reminds me of the Mopho, maybe white?
Sendy - Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:07 pm
justin3am wrote:
In Tyrell, you can trigger envelopes from the LFOs ala Roland SH-2 and such. I always liked that trick for creating psuedo-apeggiated/sequenced sounds. You can't do that with any other U-He synth.
You've also got variable soft-sync, the unique spreading bandpass filters, and audio-rate PWM (can Diva do this? Will have to check).
Plus, I find the simple complexity of Tyrell really helps when making certain types of sounds.
Crackbaby - Tue Mar 20, 2012 4:30 pm
Where can i change the amount of voices? Not unison, but total amount. It seems to be 8 voices in total?
scoobz - Tue Mar 20, 2012 5:27 pm
I thought the carbon fibre might work if the application was a bit different...
Funkybot's Evil Twin - Tue Mar 20, 2012 6:43 pm
Fantastic, and unexpected update! The new chorus sounds great and makes this a lot more versatile, and it just sounds better to me overall (might just be me though). When I saw the thread title I was fully expecting this to be a thread where someone was going to ask for some feature request or crazy update. Instead, it was a surprise update!
And the GUI isn't quite as bad as it's being made out to be, especially for a free synth that sounds amazing. Had the original Tyrell GUI never have existed, I think people would be a lot more forgiving on the GUI. Plus, it's skinnable. We're probably hours away from the first new skin hitting the net.
braj - Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:21 pm
Have you guys found out how to turn on the hidden reverb yet??
hersoot - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:00 pm
Used as a chorus effect only (audio input but no MIDI input) the CPU hit is virtually nil. Very nice.
satYatunes - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:05 pm
This is what I have got so far.. can someone tell me how to edit the upper part.. The knobs, etc. are not visible. Please be gentle, as this is only a draft copy, used the knobs that I created earlier for another skin. Also, I am open to suggestions and ideas.
Phase47 - Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:13 pm
Wasn't it sort of insinuated that Urs was busy preparing for Messe and that a 2.01 would come 'soon-ish' with an updated GUI?
digitalboytn - Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:55 pm
scoobz wrote:
I thought the carbon fibre might work if the application was a bit different...
Mmmmm...I love carbon fibre...Is that one available for download ? Thnx
GeorgeZ - Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:18 pm
Cheers for the heads up, and thanks Urs for all your hard work mate!
gerhrad - Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:54 pm
great and pleasantly unexpected update, indeed!
thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks!
Sound is brilliant and much more vibrant than of v.1's.
thanks again! really can't believe it is free!
Woody Aki - Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:58 am
That skin should be banned - disgusting! If it ain't broke...
I'll wait until the '1978' skin is adapted to V2. Regarding the chorus, I'll be investing in the ERS Dimension D in the future, so I wonder if I need to upgrade...
risome - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:34 am
necho2 wrote:
argh.
awful skin.
really really awful.
awful skin.
really really awful.
Same instrument + chorus and minor mods change the skin and people dislike> So it really does matter what a plugin looks like as well as its sounds-interesting. I like Tyrell
braj - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:36 am
risome wrote:
necho2 wrote:
argh.
awful skin.
really really awful.
awful skin.
really really awful.
Same instrument + chorus and minor mods change the skin and people dislike> So it really does matter what a plugin looks like as well as its sounds-interesting. I like Tyrell
To me the skin affects how I see and can comprehend the interface. The current new skin just hurts my eyes, I personally didn't like the old default skin either so found a skin that worked for me. Which is great, I'm very happy Tyrell is skinable, actually this fugly skin guarantees that better ones will come
it's all good! risome - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:38 am
Is there a hidden reverb?
braj - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:39 am
risome wrote:
Is there a hidden reverb?
for me to know....
ok, well no, not that I have found, but that missing space is awfully inviting, no? A reverb would fit perfectly right there
risome - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:42 am
Thanks Urs
braj - Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:49 am
risome wrote:
Thanks Urs
!
Funkybot's Evil Twin - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:06 am
Woody Aki wrote:
That skin should be banned - disgusting! If it ain't broke...
I'll wait until the '1978' skin is adapted to V2. Regarding the chorus, I'll be investing in the ERS Dimension D in the future, so I wonder if I need to upgrade...
I'll wait until the '1978' skin is adapted to V2. Regarding the chorus, I'll be investing in the ERS Dimension D in the future, so I wonder if I need to upgrade...
The Dimension D effect is a lot different than these. There would be very little overlap between the two.
osiris - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:29 am
Is there a hidden reverb? Or is that a joke? I know the Chorus has 3 distinctive types. PLEEEZZZWWEEEEEE hakey, where's the hidden reverb? U can PM me and I'll never tell.....
braj - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:38 am
osiris wrote:
Is there a hidden reverb? Or is that a joke? I know the Chorus has 3 distinctive types. PLEEEZZZWWEEEEEE hakey, where's the hidden reverb? U can PM me and I'll never tell.....
I was only joking, but I can dream, can't I?
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:40 am
thanks for this, u-he
i don't think the gui is the worst (actually never liked the original much)...with some changes, mainly in the borders, i think it could be a welcome alternative
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:40 am
digitalboytn wrote:
scoobz wrote:
I thought the carbon fibre might work if the application was a bit different...
Mmmmm...I love carbon fibre...Is that one available for download ? Thnx
i like the way this one is going
necho2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:43 am
risome wrote:
necho2 wrote:
argh.
awful skin.
really really awful.
awful skin.
really really awful.
Same instrument + chorus and minor mods change the skin and people dislike> So it really does matter what a plugin looks like as well as its sounds-interesting. I like Tyrell
I like Tyrell too. One of the best free synths ever.
The v2 SKIN, however, is horrible.
osiris - Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:14 am
So, if I'm understanding the Oscillator knobs, we can mix waves like the old Moogs? If so, yay! Please tell me the LFO can modulate wave shape.
One thing I want to know, why Tyrell can use more CPU set on 2 voices than Massive can use with 16 voices and 4 Unison? Is it because you code on a Mac ?
Be sure and leave room for an arp on that GUI....
Kaboom75 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:42 am
I think Tyrell is supposed to be based on U-He Ace programming which is a simulation of an Analog from the stone age simulations of analog add tons more CPU usage. Got this info of the old tyrell from the U-He website http://www.u-he.com/cms/tyrelln6
Tyrell is the name of a project by the German online magazine Amazona.de. A reader survey and follow-on forum posts provided a pool of ideas for a low cost HARDWARE analogue synth, which Mic 'Moogulator' Irmer used to develop quite a powerful concept. Based on a design similar to Roland's classic Juno 60, a few modules and novel features could be added without making the product too expensive...
However, it soon became obvious that developing the hardware would have taken years, so I offered to turn the core design into a freeware softsynth. That was late 2010. Only a few weeks later, TyrellN6 was already out for beta testing! After some serious bug-fixing and fine tuning, the final release version became available in April 2011.
Download TyrrelN6 here: Amazona TyrellN6 page
(German language, scroll down for the Mac and PC file links)
A few key features
classic, familiar user interface with extras
smooth overdrive in the oscillator mixer
filter output can be fed back into the mixer
unison modes with voice-specific modulation source
envelopes can be looped or triggered via LFO
envelopes retrigger like classic hardware
Mushy Mushy - Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:50 am
@ Kaboom75: We know all this already
Integratron - Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:51 am
This is terrific! - Thanks U-He! - I didn't know all that already!
osiris - Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:40 am
Gonna have to put this on the big PC. Some big sounds. Manual pleeze!!
nBeat - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:29 am
Ok, so I've updated my skin for Tyrell v2.
Go to the Tyrell-N6 v2 80s skin (update) thread or Download here
Happy tweaking!
Cheers
Jorgen
necho2 - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:40 am
excellent!
thanks Jorgen
Steplton - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:41 am
nBeat wrote:
Ok, so I've updated my skin for Tyrell v2.
Cheers
Jorgen
Cheers
Jorgen
THANK YOU!!!!!!!
PietW. - Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:50 am
nBeat wrote:
Ok, so I've updated my skin for Tyrell v2.
Go to the Tyrell-N6 v2 80s skin (update) thread or Download here
Happy tweaking!
Cheers
Jorgen
Go to the Tyrell-N6 v2 80s skin (update) thread or Download here
Happy tweaking!
Cheers
Jorgen
Hi Jorgen,
thanks a lot for the nice Skin.