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Brother Charles - Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:56 pm

Howdy KVR Krew:

I just got it delivered by the nice UPS guy (3) days ago. Boy oh boy! I am so happy that I bought it while NI was offering it on the "Spring Sale Event". It's really, really nice to have the complete version of Kontakt, Guitar Rig Pro, the Scarbee MM Bass, Mark I, Clavinet, A200, the Grand Pianos collection, etc. . No more 15 minute demo time-limits and constrained to Kontakt Player only.

I'm enjoying the library samples very much. I realize that there are more expensive, specialty saxophone libraries, piano libraries, Strings & Orchestration, etc., but for the $$ Sale price, NI Komplete is HARD TO BEAT! I used to try "make do" with some of the old freeware VSTi's such as SaxiPlayer and DVS Saxophone, but the included samples in the Kontakt factory library are much better. Mr. Sax T. is creme d la creme, but the Kontakt samples are MUCH better than using the freeware stuff.

Just my quick 2 cents. I'm glad to finally be the proud owner of something that seemed very out of reach to me for a long time. God's been good to me and I consider this new software a wonderful blessing. Smile

heffus - Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:04 pm

Amen.

Uncle E - Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:07 pm

Agreed. Komplete 8 is, IMO, the best all-on-one solution that's ever been released. It could easily be the first and last plug-in package someone ever buys.

1-2-Many - Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:09 pm

That said - their integration of product updates sucks the worst of any and all devs I've ever patronized

Mikelo - Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:06 pm

Brother Charles wrote:

Totally agree, I purchased Komplete 8 about three weeks ago and I cannot be any happier. It's the best purchase I've ever made, and most likely, ever will.
I love the Kontakt libraries, including the factory ones, especially the vocal section. The rest of the included libraries, including the stunning pianos, New York concert grand and upright really shine. Excellent MM bass. The included organ and EP's are perfect! I just love all of it!
Studio drummer and Abbey Road 60 drum and the free 6.2 gig upgrade drummer are just fantastic! Retro machines mkII is really great too!
Reaktor is just breath taking, I was blown away by it! Truly.
The included synths such as Absynth, Battery, FM8 and Massive are just pure heaven.
I love the lot!
I already have Scarbee Pre bass and might spend the 25 euro voucher towards Razor.
The only thing I wish Native Instruments would do is slightly change their download transfer policy to allow customers who have purchased Komplete 8 to allow transfer licenses of previous purchases (including libraries) that are included in the Komplete package. As I already mentioned, I own Scarbee Pre bass, which I know is only included in the Ultimate version but I also purchased the New York concert grand around christmas time.

braj - Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:36 pm

Mikelo wrote:

The only thing I wish Native Instruments would do is slightly change their download transfer policy to allow customers who have purchased Komplete 8 to allow transfer licenses of previous purchases (including libraries) that are included in the Komplete package.

Definitely +1. This is part of what makes me reluctant to get Komplete and reluctant to buy any more libraries online. I'd love to get the organ library for instance, but hold back because I know it would reduce the value of getting Komplete. Finding this out really cooled my heels in purchasing NI's stuff. I bought Studio Drummer, the Mouth, Kontakt Elements and Retro Machines and all this combined would have been better off saved for buying Komplete. That you can't sell them is a huge drag.

Mikelo - Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:45 pm

Hi Braj,
thanks for agreeing. I think even for Native Instruments benefit, they should take a look at their download license policy. I believe more people like yourself, would be less reluctant to purchase Komplete.

Funny enough, I'm in the same sort of dilemma but concerning purchasing anything else as I plan to purchase the Komplete Ultimate upgrade at the end of the year.
So I'm sort of thinking.... is it worth buying anything else like Razor or 70s Drummer now? I'll won't get my money back for it.

braj - Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:56 pm

Mikelo wrote:

It's definitely for their benefit, because I would have easily spent more on the organs and maybe more if I knew that could go towards the purchase price for Komplete. I wish they would give you some sort of upgrade discount for every individual item you own if you later decide to buy the full package, maybe not let me resell it (I'm ok with that actually) but give me a break and a good incentive to upgrade. It is currently a dis-incentive actually.

braj - Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:59 pm

I'd like a system where Komplete is X number of dollars, and you can buy elements of that package one at a time online via them, and once you hit the cost of Komplete you get the full license. So for instance I start out spending $120 on a library, like it, and then buy Reaktor for instance. Then I would have a big incentive to buy more from them because it would inch me up to the full package. I'd basically become their bitch Smile

I'm certain of that.

Mikelo - Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:05 pm

braj wrote:

Mikelo wrote:

Hi Braj, just edited my last post to include more.
Yes, must agree with you on your idea. I believe PSP audioware have that sort of purchase policy.
But at the end of the day, I can't take anything away from NI.
Komplete is a fantastic product, all their gear it pretty fantastic in my own humble opinion.
Great web site, great login/account set up, easy installation, superb little bonuses such as Skanner. My studio pc is NOT online but authorization is just a breeze with a flash drive.
No, on the whole can't complain. Well done to NI for giving us such great tools.
For me personally, all I want to do now is get my head down and write music. My head is happily spinning with constant ideas due to this (Komplete) purchase.
That alone is worth the £400 I paid for it.

Uncle E - Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:05 pm

Mikelo wrote:

So I'm sort of thinking.... is it worth buying anything else like Razor or 70s Drummer now? I'll won't get my money back for it.

Probably not unless you want to use them in a song now. The 60's kit covers a lot of bases, anyway.

Mikelo - Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:10 pm

Uncle E wrote:

Mikelo wrote:

So I'm sort of thinking.... is it worth buying anything else like Razor or 70s Drummer now? I'll won't get my money back for it.

Probably not unless you want to use them in a song now. The 60's kit covers a lot of bases, anyway.

Why on earth would you want to write a song??!! Wink

braj - Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:13 pm

Yeah I'm not exactly complaining, but I'm spending my money elsewhere. That's really a shame basically, because I'd love to have much of what is in Komplete just can't buy it all in one shot. It is a business decision by NI and doesn't take away anything from their products, and I understand how managing their supply and vendor relations etc. is all pretty complex, but maybe as online commerce matures they will get closer to my ideal.

Mikelo - Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:21 pm

braj wrote:

Again, I agree with you Braj, I hope someone from NI might see this thread and take a little note. Just to improve their business if anything. I'm willing to help any company who are loyal and give great service to their customers get better by purchasing their product. I don't think it would harm NI to re look at their policies.

1-2-Many - Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:08 am

Considering how affordable Komplete is vs the insane amount of content in it, coupled with NIs marketing plan to push that package over everything else - you'd have to be whack to buy anything included in Komplete seperately.

I got onboard with NI early on, purchasing Kontakt(v1), Absynth2, Reaktor3, FM7, Pro-52...along with paying for various upgrades along the way. When the Komplete concept first came about, I held out, thinking I'd just keep what I had and update/upgrade that as needed, even though they had an upgrade path for my situation. (IIRC it was still quite expensive. almost twice what K8 goes for today).

At some point I finally bought into the Komplete, since upgrading Kontakt and some of thier other products I owned would equal or exceed just buying in, and especially since it seemed this was the track NI was taking/pushing by their pricing & marketing.

Overall I've spent a truckload more than anyone who starts fresh and just buys Komplete8.....even the Ultimate version.

Komplete is a killer deal from that perspective

tdm71 - Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:34 pm

Has anyone opted for Ultimate instead on just 8? I can't seem to justify the extra 300 for what they include...

EvilDragon - Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:02 pm

Seriously? You cannot justify 300 extra for Sessions Strings Pro (costing over 300 on its own!), Evolve Mutations bundle, ALL Abbey Road Drummers (!), ALL Scarbee instruments (!), ALL currently available Reaktor synths (except Skanner XT)?

If I had that extra, I would definitely take it.

Uncle E - Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:08 pm

tdm71 wrote:

Has anyone opted for Ultimate instead on just 8? I can't seem to justify the extra 300 for what they include...

I did, mostly because I had fantasies of getting into hip hop and RnB, for which the extra libraries are perfect.

musicdoc - Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:49 pm

Ultimate owner here. Been with NI since version 4. Now upgrade every other cycle. Great bang for the buck, but would never buy stuff from them separately - it makes no financial sense to me.

Mikelo - Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:01 pm

musicdoc wrote:

Ultimate owner here. Been with NI since version 4. Now upgrade every other cycle. Great bang for the buck, but would never buy stuff from them separately - it makes no financial sense to me.

As mentioned in a previous posts, I have Komplete 8, Scarbee Pre with the intention of upgrading to Ultimate by the end of the year.
So the 25 euro voucher I have might just go to waste as I can't see the point of buying anything now. I'll just be throwing money away for nothing.

Uncle E - Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:08 pm

Mikelo wrote:

I usually use my vouchers on Maschine libraries. That new Skanner XT instrument looks cool, too.

Mikelo - Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:12 pm

Uncle E wrote:

Mikelo wrote:

I usually use my vouchers on Maschine libraries. That new Skanner XT instrument looks cool, too.

Yes, I have Skanner and was looking to upgrade to XT but NI won't allow vouchers to be used on upgrades Sad

Mikelo - Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:26 pm

Well if I can't use the voucher for upgrades, I might as well buy one of their NI T shirts for the voucher price! The black "future of sound" looks good... Very Happy

raintalk - Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:46 pm

Nope, can't use voucher for a T-shirt neither.
Only "Komplete" related software products from their web shop.

And nothing on sale.
Dorky voucher

I like Komplete anyhow Very Happy

Mikelo - Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:48 pm

raintalk wrote:

Nope, can't use voucher for a T-shirt neither.
Only "Komplete" related software products from their web shop.

And nothing on sale.
Dorky voucher

I like Komplete anyhow Very Happy

Yep, just found that one out the hard way! Aaaargghhh

Uncle E - Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:16 pm

I'll buy your vouchers from you.

meldavid - Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:54 am

Okay so what are the best presets in Komplete 8? It's going to take forever to audition all the sounds so if you find any gems, state what they are. e.g. your favourite piano, strings patch, etc.

Mikelo - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:13 am

Uncle E wrote:

I'll buy your vouchers from you.

I don't think you can sell them on. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
If I could sell it to you, I would.

Uncle E - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:19 am

Mikelo wrote:

I don't think you can sell them on. Someone please correct me if I am wrong.
If I could sell it to you, I would.

I'm nearly positive you can. Isn't it just a code?

braj - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:21 am

Someone posted the terms recently and it specifically said you can't.

Mikelo - Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:49 am

meldavid wrote:

Okay so what are the best presets in Komplete 8? It's going to take forever to audition all the sounds so if you find any gems, state what they are. e.g. your favourite piano, strings patch, etc.

Well there's a zillion patches if you include everything, but if you mean the stand out synths then I have to say all are fantastic.
Best to one person might not be to another. It depends what genre you like.
Personally, I like RnB, hip hop and dance. So there's plenty there to keep you busy if that floats your boat too.
Studio Drummer and Abbey Road 60s are amazing.
The synth that got my hairs standing I must say though was Reaktor. Wouldn't have a clue on how to create your own modules (yet) but what it comes with, is superb.
Prism is my pick of the bunch closely followed by Laser Bass.
I was also very impressed with the choir section in Kontakt's library.
Absynth has a great earthly quality, not found much anywhere else. I can imagine it being a dream for film composers too.
Anything with Scarbee written on the title is just super dooper starship trooper.
Na, got to say, I'm chuffed with this purchase. Its just superb!
Just the voucher headache for me.

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