KVR :: Effects » nomad factory pulse-tec vs ddmf 6144, if you could only choose one [View Original Topic]
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el-bo (formerly ebow) - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:09 am
and i don't even know if i can do that yet......
probably enough differences to make a true versus thread useless, but maybe thoughts on both to go along with my testing
thanks
scalawag - Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:15 am
Just bought Pulse-tec and it sounds great!!
I don't have DDMF 6144 but i do have the free J1000 PQ33 that emulates it, and it also sound very good.
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:08 am
scalawag wrote:
Just bought Pulse-tec and it sounds great!!
I don't have DDMF 6144 but i do have the free J1000 PQ33 that emulates it, and it also sound very good.
I don't have DDMF 6144 but i do have the free J1000 PQ33 that emulates it, and it also sound very good.
i'm liking the pulse-tec for mids..i'm liking the 6144 for highs..i wonder if that plug you linked has the same silky highs as the 6144...i can't use it though as i am on a mac
sadkin - Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:04 am
Both very good, however my personal taste leans a little more to the 6144 - I've gone off on rants regarding DDMF's fine work here before - just wonderful.
That said, NF pulse-tec is hands down my favorite take on the pultec style eq, sonically accurate in its representation or not, it sounds best to me.
Compyfox - Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:25 am
The PulseTec models a Pultec EQ, the DDMF emulates the NEVE Portico EQ (so does the J1000 PQ33 IIRC).
Two different beasts - apples and oranges really.
One is a push-pull tube EQ design, another one a modern EQ with some tricks on it's own.
For the sale price atm, Pulse-Tec is a steal. It's one of the higher tiers in terms of Pultec clones. And there sure are plenty on the market.
The DDMF one was actually a "joke stab" at the NEVE Portico (sold by Yamaha/Steinberg) if the developer can pull off a similar design/clone it. Apparently it's just as loved and costs only a fraction.
Let your ears decide, not your wallet.
evo2slo - Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:19 am
I bought the Pulse-Tec on sale from Ilio for $30 and could not be happier. Really love how it handles the low end of a mix. I just got it last night so haven't played with it very much yet, but on first impression I liked it more than PSP NobleQ, though NobleQ is more flexible. I'm also pleasantly surprised by the Pulse-Tec's limiter. I have Nomad Magnetic and hate the limiter on it, so wasn't expecting to like this one as much as I do.
I also have the DDMF 6144 and I love that as well. Amazing shimmery highs - I like it more than the high shelf from the Pulse-Tec from my tests on the drum bus so far. Hats are smooth in the 6144, and crisp in the Pulse-Tec.
My guess is you're going to end up wanting both of them - so if you can only get one right now I would get the Pulse-Tec while it's on sale.
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:56 am
Compyfox wrote:
The DDMF one was actually a "joke stab" at the NEVE Portico (sold by Yamaha/Steinberg) if the developer can pull off a similar design/clone it. Apparently it's just as loved and costs only a fraction.
yeah, i've been following the ddmf thing ever since the mortgage-worthy neve/steinberg release, but only just ended up demoing it
as a simple eq it's great, and i love the highs more than the nomad plug...but i think the nomad imparts more of a character (really digging the mid stuff) which is a kind of plug i'm after
i'm not sure i can afford either, but the nomad is at a price that is making me think about it
Compyfox wrote:
Let your ears decide, not your wallet.
that's the thing...i don't have speakers other than my laptop internals, and the headphones i'm using aren't 'studio-phile'.....i have no other choice at the moment, but i think i can still make out the differences
wanted to throw it out there
thanks guys
docdued - Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:41 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
i'm not sure i can afford either, but the nomad is at a price that is making me think about it
Huh? But the 6144 price is too high?
Never heard of that before... el-bo (formerly ebow) - Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:51 am
docdued wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
i'm not sure i can afford either, but the nomad is at a price that is making me think about it
Huh? But the 6144 price is too high?
Never heard of that before...the price is not high at all unless you are short of cash....as i said, i'm not sure i can afford either...the thing is that i can get the nomad factory for 25 dollars till the end of april but the 6144 will remain $29....
if i had the money, i'd just take a punt on both, but seeing as i don't i don't want to get something i don't need....the nomad might be a no-brainer, but if i don't need it..................
if i choose the 6144 over the nomad i'll probably hold off buying it for a while, but i don't want to miss the nomad if it turns out to be great
Igro - Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:37 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
docdued wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
i'm not sure i can afford either, but the nomad is at a price that is making me think about it
Huh? But the 6144 price is too high?
Never heard of that before...the price is not high at all unless you are short of cash....as i said, i'm not sure i can afford either...the thing is that i can get the nomad factory for 25 dollars till the end of april but the 6144 will remain $29....
if i had the money, i'd just take a punt on both, but seeing as i don't i don't want to get something i don't need....the nomad might be a no-brainer, but if i don't need it..................
if i choose the 6144 over the nomad i'll probably hold off buying it for a while, but i don't want to miss the nomad if it turns out to be great
May you provide us with the link with such price for pulse-tec, please.
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:48 am
Igro wrote:
May you provide us with the link with such price for pulse-tec, please.
http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/nomad-factory-pulsetec-download-license-p-9299.html?osCsid=deffd0af047cfc4fa66bb7659c26acc2
someone on another thread posted the price at $24.50...i think that's after 2 discounts, one general one for it being the month of april, and another as a member of kvr...i'll see if uncle E will confirm and give us the final price (have already confirmed the offer lasts till end of april, hence this thread)
Igro - Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:34 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Igro wrote:
May you provide us with the link with such price for pulse-tec, please.
http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/nomad-factory-pulsetec-download-license-p-9299.html?osCsid=deffd0af047cfc4fa66bb7659c26acc2
someone on another thread posted the price at $24.50...i think that's after 2 discounts, one general one for it being the month of april, and another as a member of kvr...i'll see if uncle E will confirm and give us the final price (have already confirmed the offer lasts till end of april, hence this thread)
Thank you. It shows 30$ though.
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:43 am
Igro wrote:
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Igro wrote:
May you provide us with the link with such price for pulse-tec, please.
http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/nomad-factory-pulsetec-download-license-p-9299.html?osCsid=deffd0af047cfc4fa66bb7659c26acc2
someone on another thread posted the price at $24.50...i think that's after 2 discounts, one general one for it being the month of april, and another as a member of kvr...i'll see if uncle E will confirm and give us the final price (have already confirmed the offer lasts till end of april, hence this thread)
Thank you. It shows 30$ though.
there's some text underneath the link in my post
scalawag - Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:18 am
Use coupon code "april15off" at checkout @ Jrrshop.
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:49 am
scalawag wrote:
Use coupon code "april15off" at checkout @ Jrrshop.
thanks....
Sub-Total: $30.00USD
Discount Coupons "april15off": -$4.50USD
Total: $25.50USD
scalawag - Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:19 pm
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
scalawag wrote:
Use coupon code "april15off" at checkout @ Jrrshop.
thanks....
Sub-Total: $30.00USD
Discount Coupons "april15off": -$4.50USD
Total: $25.50USD
Compyfox - Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:32 pm
If you really want to be sure and test what the heck is going on, go over to Christian Budde's blog and grab a copy of VST Plugin Analyser.
Then take a dive into my KVRmarks to see how to measure EQ's.
Important on top of the frequency response is the harmonic distortion which gives you an indication of the "pleasant sound" you're talking about. Pulse-Tec is by far one of the best Pultec EQ clones out there.
Again:
The Portico is a 5 band full parametric EQ based with custom Input/Output transformer design. The Pultec EQ is a tube push/pull type EQ. Additionally, you get the "midrange upgrade EQ module" MEQ-5 with the Pulse-Tec. Not many plugin developers did this (actually only Waves as seperate plugin, and UAD with their Pultec Pro).
For this price, you definitely get a lot for your bucks.
Uncle E - Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:57 pm
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/nomad-factory-pulsetec-download-license-p-9299.html
someone on another thread posted the price at $24.50...i think that's after 2 discounts, one general one for it being the month of april, and another as a member of kvr...i'll see if uncle E will confirm and give us the final price (have already confirmed the offer lasts till end of april, hence this thread)
someone on another thread posted the price at $24.50...i think that's after 2 discounts, one general one for it being the month of april, and another as a member of kvr...i'll see if uncle E will confirm and give us the final price (have already confirmed the offer lasts till end of april, hence this thread)
The price becomes $24.65 when you enter the coupon code "april15off" on checkout.
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:13 am
Uncle E wrote:
The price becomes $24.65 when you enter the coupon code "april15off" on checkout.
Sub-Total: $30.00USD
Discount Coupons "april15off": -$4.50USD
Total: $25.50USD
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:54 am
Compyfox wrote:
If you really want to be sure and test what the heck is going on, go over to Christian Budde's blog and grab a copy of VST Plugin Analyser.
that's not necessary...i don't really care what's going on before it reaches my ears
Compyfox wrote:
Again:
The Portico is a 5 band full parametric EQ based with custom Input/Output transformer design. The Pultec EQ is a tube push/pull type EQ. Additionally, you get the "midrange upgrade EQ module" MEQ-5 with the Pulse-Tec
The Portico is a 5 band full parametric EQ based with custom Input/Output transformer design. The Pultec EQ is a tube push/pull type EQ. Additionally, you get the "midrange upgrade EQ module" MEQ-5 with the Pulse-Tec
i like the 6144/portico thing...i really like the highs....i think i will start comparing this to other eq's at my disposal to see if i already have comparable sweetness (thinking maybe 'mixcontrol')....but now i've tested them both on other source material it's the pulse-tek i want...i'm looking for 'character', and that's something i kinda associate with 'mids'...as you have said, the inclusion of the separate mid section unit makes a huge difference...this thing just roars
now just have to work out whether i can spare the sheckels
Uncle E - Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:35 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
The price becomes $24.65 when you enter the coupon code "april15off" on checkout.
Sub-Total: $30.00USD
Discount Coupons "april15off": -$4.50USD
Total: $25.50USD
heh, funny, I only read your post that you referred to and didn't see what else was going on. It will work now.
btw, here's a better link to use (I edited out the session information):
http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/nomad-factory-pulsetec-downlo ad-license-p-9299.html
overhishead - Sun Apr 22, 2012 3:45 pm
which one takes up the most cpu?
which one takes up the most ram?
to me, the DDMF looks like a track EQ, the Nomad one looks like a program EQ
correct me if im wrong anybody.
i would take a look at both companies as a whole, their customer service, how often they update, judge them how you like. give money to the developer you like the most because youre not just buying a plugin, you're supporting a cause in general.
im a little baffled why you would either-or two totally different types of plugins is all.
el-bo (formerly ebow) - Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:55 pm
overhishead wrote:
which one takes up the most cpu?
don't know...not important, as i'm after sound/character enhancement not processor efficiency
overhishead wrote:
which one takes up the most ram?
see above
overhishead wrote:
to me, the DDMF looks like a track EQ, the Nomad one looks like a program EQ
correct me if im wrong anybody.
correct me if im wrong anybody.
i'm not one for limitations such as this.....so far time limits have meant i've only tried this thing on the master channel, but i see absolutely no reason why i wouldn't use it on a bus or any single track that it gives what i'm after
overhishead wrote:
i would take a look at both companies as a whole, their customer service, how often they update, judge them how you like. give money to the developer you like the most because youre not just buying a plugin, you're supporting a cause in general.
actually i AM buying a plugin....while it is important to support companies, especially one's that offer good customer service, i'm not about to buy something i want less because i like the company more...as you have mentioned in the point below, these plugs are much more different to each other than i first anticipated. why would i choose the one that doesn't do what i want just so that i get better customer service ??
....i've owned plugs from both of these companies and have nothing but positive experiences with both
overhishead wrote:
im a little baffled why you would either-or two totally different types of plugins is all.
actually, i've made it very clear throughout this thread that this is a question of money and limited opportunity....there might eventually turn out to be a good argument for owning both..what is pushing me to make a quick decision is that for the next week the nomad is about 80% cheaper....
i'm a little baffled as to why, when you state these plugs are so different, you choose to make comparisons based on the first 3 points/questions...only if they are extremely similar is it worth considering which is more ram, or processor, efficient, or which company you'd prefer to give your money to
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