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sabiwa - Thu May 03, 2012 2:02 am
Good day!
For past few years I've been using ableton as a traditional daw (arrange window) but it's not quite in there. Here's my workflow: I pick up samples from browser and put them in timeline. Then I do as much editing on arr window as possible. Nudging clips, cutting, joining, reversing, building breaks or instruments on several tracks, combining them etc. I don't use midi and would not like to go editor stage at all so...
Which daw would let you do plenty of sample accurate audio editing on arrange window or best editing tools in general?
-J
bronxsound - Thu May 03, 2012 2:04 am
think cubase would do the job
sabiwa - Thu May 03, 2012 2:07 am
Btw, I'm on mac . Cubase was my main sequencer in the era of SX but I had PC back then. I used to like it a lot but it wasn't so much used by mac people (2005).
bronxsound - Thu May 03, 2012 2:43 am
it's mac... and moved forward comparing to SX...
have a look at Studio One by presonus (there's a free version btw). single window, and it may work better for you actually
luckystrike - Thu May 03, 2012 6:13 am
Live's audio clip manipulation is very powerful. I don't think there will be any improvement if you change daw. But if you are talking about audio 'editor', I could understand it as Live doesn't have that feature. You can compensate it by using external audio editor though.
Resonator63 - Thu May 03, 2012 6:20 am
Studio One fits the bill,but I think most DAWS do.
Try a few demos
whyterabbyt - Thu May 03, 2012 6:22 am
sabiwa wrote:
Good day!
For past few years I've been using ableton as a traditional daw (arrange window) but it's not quite in there. Here's my workflow: I pick up samples from browser and put them in timeline. Then I do as much editing on arr window as possible. Nudging clips, cutting, joining, reversing, building breaks or instruments on several tracks, combining them etc. I don't use midi and would not like to go editor stage at all so...
Which daw would let you do plenty of sample accurate audio editing on arrange window or best editing tools in general?
-J
For past few years I've been using ableton as a traditional daw (arrange window) but it's not quite in there. Here's my workflow: I pick up samples from browser and put them in timeline. Then I do as much editing on arr window as possible. Nudging clips, cutting, joining, reversing, building breaks or instruments on several tracks, combining them etc. I don't use midi and would not like to go editor stage at all so...
Which daw would let you do plenty of sample accurate audio editing on arrange window or best editing tools in general?
-J
what does ableton not do that you need?
bronxsound - Thu May 03, 2012 6:28 am
I'm guessing OP is looking for something like Sony ACID...
standalone - Thu May 03, 2012 6:42 am
You could get a copy of Studio One Artists in the Market Place cheap as chips. Meanwhile try the full demo or the free version (although this one lacks some audio features present in the paid versions).
siriusbliss - Thu May 03, 2012 7:26 am
Samplitude of course, but you'd still have to use bootcamp until Magix finishes porting it over to Mac.
G
5Lives - Thu May 03, 2012 3:28 pm
Pro Tools 10. Studio One is pretty great too.
risome - Thu May 03, 2012 4:02 pm
Dig deeper into live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G52UPwJkhVI
risome - Thu May 03, 2012 4:04 pm
Get "Wave Editor" and set it as your editor in LIVE for extra functionality as well
metamorphosis - Thu May 03, 2012 4:21 pm
Adobe Audition.
machinesworking - Thu May 03, 2012 5:57 pm
Pro Tools or Digital Performer will be your best bet besides Live.
Live offers a few great things loop player wise, but Pro Tools and DP are much more advanced as far as micro editing etc. DP7 is quite stable and since DP8 has been announced you'll get a free upgrade to 8 when it comes out. IMO DP has a few better tricks mixing wise than Pro Tools. I use DP7 and Live so I'm partial to that combo, they compliment each other well.
sabiwa - Fri May 04, 2012 2:31 am
Ableton does just fine although arrange window is not best around. Thing is that I haven't check DAW market for a while and maybe miss something. As I said, I don't use Midi at all - just huge load of little audio snippets here and there on several tracks. Studio One sounds interesting with together with Melodyne...
Mechanought - Fri May 04, 2012 4:39 am
Well if you're just using audio, then I'd say use Pro Tools.
I find it unbeatable when working with audio (except it's Time Compression Expansion).
Beautiful routing, fantastic stock plug-ins, pretty interface.
mclane - Fri May 04, 2012 5:30 am
+1 for cubase. It can do all protools can, you can even edit single samples and re-draw waveforms manually all without reaching for an external wave editor, plus it has vari audio (sort of a built in melodyne) which protools doesn't have.
I think protools is only necessary if you need to have the industry standard because of session exchange. The mixer is more useful however (I almost never use the one in cubase, since it's all there in the channel based inspector).
sabiwa - Fri May 04, 2012 8:56 am
How is cubase working with mac nowadays? or compared with Win version - any disadvantages?
bduffy - Fri May 04, 2012 9:15 am
Cubase honestly performs a little better on the PC than on a Mac, but it performs quite well. I'm still using it, couldn't give it up for Logic, et al., and I love the audio editing features. Very good for sound design.
luckystrike - Fri May 04, 2012 11:12 am
sabiwa wrote:
Ableton does just fine although arrange window is not best around. Thing is that I haven't check DAW market for a while and maybe miss something. As I said, I don't use Midi at all - just huge load of little audio snippets here and there on several tracks. Studio One sounds interesting with together with Melodyne...
Maybe, the thing you are looking for is not sequencer but audio editor. You'll begin to need it whatever sequencer you get. You could understand it if you knew stein is selling audio editor and sequencer separately.
the tone ranger - Tue May 08, 2012 2:58 pm
Pro Tools and by a long way imo. i like how the arrange window is also the wave editor, just zoom in. the smart tool is just a joy to use too. i hate having to right click all the time to change tools.
codec_spurt - Tue May 08, 2012 7:13 pm
Might have missed it, but surprised no one has mentioned Reaper.
Not exactly an audio editor, but you can do great things with it in that domain.
It kind of does everything you would ever need, before you fire up your final destructive audio editor of course. I just bought SoundForge and that is great, but http://www.wavosaur.com/download.php has just come on leaps and bounds lately. I sometimes use an old copy of Wavelab too, but Reaper has a great media browser with loop/not loop - volume control - wave display in browser.
I surprise myself how much I use it! Great tool.
blueman - Tue May 08, 2012 7:16 pm
Forget the rest! Studio One Pro rules the DAW world
standalone - Wed May 09, 2012 12:20 am
codec_spurt wrote:
surprised no one has mentioned Reaper
There you have it. Now The Circle Is Complete.
elxsound - Sat May 12, 2012 3:23 pm
What exactly are you looking to get out of an audio editor?
If you are looking to work on a single audio sample level then I would suggest something like Wave Editor. It's affordable and there's a demo version available.
Adobe audition is another option, and what's great about adobe audition is that it comes with audio/spectral tools that include denoising options.
Wavelab... well, when I had it, this was fresh to Mac and it was full of bugs to a point it was waisting my time... Hopefully this a better product by now, but I can't recommend it based on my experience.
Pro Tools works great as an audio editor, but it's still a company I have a love/hate attitude towards for many reasons (which I'll save for the appropriate thread). It really is an all inclusive program if you decide to go this route.
Depending on what you are doing though... Live might actually work just fine. Automation lines can work wonders in terms of audio editing.
Reaper does also work great, but again it just depends on what you want to use it for. I use Reaper for dialogue editing.
Dean Aka Nekro - Sat May 12, 2012 4:03 pm
If its multi-track audio editing then personally I would suggest Pro Tools (simply because I use it and know it well) and like elxsound I have a beef with AVID as a company but will not go into it here, Cubase 6.5 now has Multi-Track editing capabilites for example if working with a multi-tracked drumkit and MIDI editing has always been alot more in-depth than Pro Tools (PT does just fine for me though). I find Cubase or rather the older versions upto the version after SX3 really confusing...Its been sorted though over the years by the looks/sounds of things but still not perfect like PT isn't. Logic (MAC only obviously) Samplitude and REAPER are all capable and worth looking into.
If its single-track audio editing then Sound Forge, Wavelab, WavoSaur (free) and on MAC there is quite afew that look/sound very capable
dgkenney - Sun May 13, 2012 6:22 am
Pro Tools +1
Avid -1
Dan
sabiwa - Sun May 13, 2012 9:54 am
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Wavelab... well, when I had it, this was fresh to Mac and it was full of bugs to a point it was waisting my time... Hopefully this a better product by now, but I can't recommend it based on my experience.
True. Big disappointment it was when it finally arrived. Still looking for a decent audio editor for mac - gotta check audition (what ever happened to Soundtrack Pro?) and Wave editor.
Btw, it's Logic I did end up with - Arrange editing is better than in Live (opinion). My first sequencer was Notator so I thought there might be some bits and pieces still left in Logic
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