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Teknite - Mon May 07, 2012 3:10 pm
I compiled the best displays of Phil Collins' vocal range http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9SBvL2LBwM
Check it out if you'd like.
MickGael - Mon May 07, 2012 3:34 pm
(Starting at ca 2:15) this is certainly at the high end of his range:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2kRc2aHTnk&feature=youtu.be&t=2m15s
robojam - Tue May 08, 2012 7:18 am
I think standing about a mile away from him when he sings is the best range.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 7:47 am
robojam wrote:
I think standing about a mile away from him when he sings is the best range.
Listen to "A Trick Of The Tail" and tell me he sucks.
Teknite - Tue May 08, 2012 9:17 am
robojam wrote:
I think standing about a mile away from him when he sings is the best range.
I don't understand how people can't like him, his voice is phenomenal as well as his song writing, although he is better in Genesis than his solo career, he didn't become extremely successful for no reason.
Metanol - Tue May 08, 2012 9:24 am
Teknite wrote:
robojam wrote:
I think standing about a mile away from him when he sings is the best range.
I don't understand how people can't like him,
I do understand.
His thin and tense voice sounds horrible. But then there are millions of people who like him. Does not bother me. Live and let live.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 9:30 am
I must say, the sociology of popularity is fascinating. A friend of mine claims to despise Shakespeare, while loving Stephen King.
phlendo - Tue May 08, 2012 9:33 am
He has a great voice, and is a solid drummer, but his music is so f***ing cheesy.
robojam - Tue May 08, 2012 9:37 am
phlendo wrote:
He has a great voice, and is a solid drummer, but his music is so f***ing cheesy.
^^ This.
He's a horrible songwriter.
aMUSEd - Tue May 08, 2012 9:37 am
I don't think he has a great voice but he was good in Trick of the Tail and wrote some of Genesis's more melodic songs. Also while the singing is not brilliant the feeling in this is sincere and this is a truly lovely song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OiV_5kEt6A
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 9:37 am
phlendo wrote:
He has a great voice, and is a solid drummer, but his music is so f***ing cheesy.
One of the greatest drummers of his era, but yea: his later solo stuff is just terrible. At least he did not sink to the levels of mediocrity for as many years as has Rod Stewart.
Metanol - Tue May 08, 2012 9:37 am
MickGael wrote:
I must say, the sociology of popularity is fascinating. A friend of mine claims to despise Shakespeare, while loving Stephen King.
It really is fascinating. People like Barbara Cartland and Phil Collins selling millions.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 9:40 am
Metanol wrote:
MickGael wrote:
I must say, the sociology of popularity is fascinating. A friend of mine claims to despise Shakespeare, while loving Stephen King.
It really is fascinating. People like Barbara Cartland and Phil Collins selling millions.
Read a lot of Barbara Cartland, have you?
robojam - Tue May 08, 2012 9:42 am
Metanol wrote:
MickGael wrote:
I must say, the sociology of popularity is fascinating. A friend of mine claims to despise Shakespeare, while loving Stephen King.
It really is fascinating. People like Barbara Cartland and Phil Collins selling millions.
Metanol - Tue May 08, 2012 9:46 am
MickGael wrote:
Read a lot of Barbara Cartland, have you?
No. I think I tried once in a summer cottage where there was not much else to read but somehow didnt find it interesting.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 9:47 am
Metanol wrote:
MickGael wrote:
Read a lot of Barbara Cartland, have you?
No. I think I tried once in a summer cottage where there was not much else to read but somehow didnt find it interesting.
It does make you wonder what will stand the test of time. Hell, I loathed "Friends" and it was hugely popular. What do I know?
robojam - Tue May 08, 2012 9:52 am
Actually I think his best vocal was the one in Wizard of Oz...
Metanol - Tue May 08, 2012 9:57 am
MickGael wrote:
It does make you wonder what will stand the test of time. Hell, I loathed "Friends" and it was hugely popular. What do I know?
I have heard lecture where how the "Friends" is written and how it keeps audiences attention, was analyzed. They said it is masterfully written. Might be so, I change the channel if it is on tv.
aMUSEd - Tue May 08, 2012 10:03 am
Friends would be OK if it didn't have that whiney baby Ross in it.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 10:03 am
aMUSEd wrote:
Friends would be OK if it didn't have that whiney baby Ross in it.
+1
dreamkeeper - Tue May 08, 2012 10:34 am
MickGael wrote:
robojam wrote:
I think standing about a mile away from him when he sings is the best range.
Listen to "A Trick Of The Tail" and tell me he sucks.
Sure... but that's only because Genesis hadn't "recovered" from Mr Gabriel yet.
GeckoYamori - Tue May 08, 2012 10:45 am
I feel like I'm stuck in limbo. When it comes to Genesis I'm firmly entrenched in the prog side, but my favorite album by far is Trick of the Tail which was the first one after Gabriel left and Collins took over. I didn't really like Gabriel's eccentrics in the band, but I love his 80's solo career after that.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 10:46 am
I adore Gabriel-era Genesis, but Duke was a great record, as were moments on Abacab. When you look at the quality of "A Trick Of The Tail" and "Wind and Wuthering" it's hard to to see Tony Banks and Mike Rutherford as the core of the band.
"And Then There Were Three", not so much....
vurt - Tue May 08, 2012 11:24 am
MickGael wrote:
I must say, the sociology of popularity is fascinating. A friend of mine claims to despise Shakespeare, while loving Stephen King.
i dont like either of them.
robojam - Tue May 08, 2012 11:34 am
vurt wrote:
MickGael wrote:
I must say, the sociology of popularity is fascinating. A friend of mine claims to despise Shakespeare, while loving Stephen King.
i dont like either of them.
Neither of them can drum for shit either.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 11:35 am
robojam wrote:
vurt wrote:
MickGael wrote:
I must say, the sociology of popularity is fascinating. A friend of mine claims to despise Shakespeare, while loving Stephen King.
i dont like either of them.
Neither of them can drum for shit either.
codec_spurt - Tue May 08, 2012 7:32 pm
F***, I thought it was just me!
Stephen King is obviously sh**.
Ol' billy boy whilst being of obviously dubious drumming ability, doesn't write much better either. At least, I can't understand wtf he is on about.
But I like watching his plays - http://www.nndb.com/people/617/000043488/
is a favourite. And A Midsummer Night's Dream is always good for a laugh.
I thought I was the only one.
Stephen King is still sh**, though.
Ta.
MickGael - Tue May 08, 2012 7:44 pm
As this thread has gone quite off the rails, I'm going to go ahead and ask y'all who you think are great writers.
codec_spurt - Tue May 08, 2012 7:53 pm
MickGael wrote:
As this thread has gone quite off the rails, I'm going to go ahead and ask y'all who you think are great writers.
Hunter S Thompson. Though people quoting him are tiresome.
D.H. Miltz - Tue May 08, 2012 10:33 pm
William H. Gass
William Gaddis
George Eliot
Thomas Mann
vurt - Wed May 09, 2012 1:48 am
MickGael wrote:
As this thread has gone quite off the rails, I'm going to go ahead and ask y'all who you think are great writers.
i didnt say neither of them where great writers, i stated that i didnt like either of them.
part of the issue with shakespaeare for me is the way his works where forced upon me at school, similar to codec spurt, while i dont like to read the works i have enjoyed theatre productions of the works, but then ive also seen bad theatre productions of the same works.
same thing with stephen king, ive never really enjoyed his books, but some of the films of his works have been great, others not so
im sure at his time shakespeare was the writer everybody would read, at least those who could read or those works that where available. thats part of the problem with most writers ive read, they dont sit well in the future, its not the writers fault, its such things as society change, language evolution and such things.
another example would be the scifi writers of today, as we reach the futures they foretell, im sure that they will become a little outdated and not speak to as many folk as they do today.
as for writers i enjoy, rather than think are great, jeff noon, lewis carrol, tolkien, william gibson, james joyce, virginia woolf and so on...
i dont think people should read what they are told is great i think people should find stuff that speaks to them and that they personally enjoy.
not sure what this has to do with phil collins though
MickGael - Wed May 09, 2012 2:18 am
D.H. Miltz wrote:
Thomas Mann
Re-reading "The Magic Mountain" at the moment. The passages describing the death of Hans Castorp's grandfather in "The Baptismal Bowl" are startlingly brilliant. The very epitome of a novel of ideas.
darsho - Wed May 09, 2012 4:28 am
robojam wrote:
I think standing about a mile away from him when he sings is the best range.
this.
Meffy, is it possible, to automatically ban people that open a thread about Phil Collins ?
D.H. Miltz - Wed May 09, 2012 4:44 am
Just when I was thinking of moving it to OT, it swings back to the (musical) topic. [Shakes fist.] What about the vocal range of Thomas Mann?
MickGael - Wed May 09, 2012 5:21 am
D.H. Miltz wrote:
Just when I was thinking of moving it to OT, it swings back to the (musical) topic. [Shakes fist.] What about the vocal range of Thomas Mann?
I bet he sounded like Leonard Cohen.
robojam - Wed May 09, 2012 5:44 am
darsho wrote:
Meffy, is it possible, to automatically ban people that open a thread about Phil Collins ?
Well to be fair, I think just a verbal warning if his drumming is praised or the poster acknowledges that Genesis were better with Gabriel as vocalist...
VitaminD - Wed May 09, 2012 5:51 am
As a child, I thought he and Bill Murray were the same guy.
Jonathan Shepherd - Wed May 09, 2012 11:23 am
I'll stick up for ol' Phil, never minded his voice. At least he seemed passionate about what he was saying, as opposed to a lotta other pop. "The Roof Is Leaking" comes to mind.
ps "Turn It On Again" was great pop-Genesis.
pss Now I must go and watch American Psycho again for P.Bateman's analysis of the situation. Hey Paul!
and pss: Brand X with Collins, and without, has some awesome stuff. Much of which is vocal-free if you like only his drumming...
dreamkeeper - Wed May 09, 2012 12:54 pm
Jonathan Shepherd wrote:
... pop-Genesis.
And that's the problem, right there...
pwal - Thu May 10, 2012 12:38 pm
not to mention all his charidy work
robojam - Thu May 10, 2012 12:56 pm
pwal wrote:
not to mention all his charidy work
Kriminal - Thu May 10, 2012 1:00 pm
nothing wrong with a bit of PC.....he's written some good tunes in his time
shame ppl hate on success, smacks of jealousy
pwal - Fri May 11, 2012 8:16 am
i suspect "ppl" are "hating on" phil collins, rather than success
Metanol - Fri May 11, 2012 8:32 am
I dont hate Phil Collins. I have never met him. Only things I know about him is that he has been singing in a boring band. When I hear him singing I cant help to think if this guy is going to make it through this song without bursting a blood vessel in his brain.
Sorry 'bout this rant but I have good friends who are nice guys otherwise but have made me suffer Genesis and Pink Floyd too many times when having parties.
Kriminal - Fri May 11, 2012 9:20 am
pwal wrote:
i suspect "ppl" are "hating on" phil collins, rather than success
and would they be hating on him if he wasnt so successful? no
pwal - Fri May 11, 2012 11:13 am
it's not because he's having a successful, it's his other characteristics intervading via that pop-hole
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