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braj - Tue May 29, 2012 11:30 am
I'm hoping to find a vst or sample library/set of wavs of bird calls from around the world. They should be labors accurately so the original bird is identifiable. I have a little app for my phone like this but it would be really cool to make some compositions based on bird calls, create grooves, inherit their melodies etc. Anyone know where to look?
Kriminal - Tue May 29, 2012 11:31 am
braj wrote:
Anyone know where to look?
up would be a good start
Kriminal - Tue May 29, 2012 11:33 am
single birds are hard to record, especially round here, too many diff species going at once
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 11:35 am
Kriminal wrote:
braj wrote:
Anyone know where to look?
up would be a good start
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 11:37 am
Kriminal wrote:
single birds are hard to record, especially round here, too many diff species going at once
Yeah actually I should look for ornithological websites instead, kvr maybe is not the right place
my dad had records of bird songs when I was a kid, I know if it was possible in 1970 it must be possible now cytospur - Tue May 29, 2012 11:38 am
A few here:
http://www.xeno-canto.org/europe/all_species.php
And here:
http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/
thecontrolcentre - Tue May 29, 2012 11:50 am
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/birdsong.shtml
http://new.thelounge.com/uk/feature/rspb-birdsong
jdt - Tue May 29, 2012 11:55 am
You might find this interesting to try:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/sounds_of_nature_by_xoxos
VoltAirOhm - Tue May 29, 2012 11:57 am
Cool,thanks for the links!
Meffy - Tue May 29, 2012 12:06 pm
braj wrote:
I know if it was possible in 1970 it must be possible now :-)
I have several sets of thin vinyl "soundsheet"-style phonograph records of bird songs, each record about one inch in diameter. It's not the whole collection but there are quite a few there. They are the smallest working phono records I've ever seen and possibly the smallest there are.
I would not recommend you find and use those, as the sound is probably pretty bad. I've not played them because they're so small the arm pickup mechanism kicks in soon as I move the stylus over to cue one up. Takes a completely manual turntable to play them. Figured I'd mention them because the 1970s is probably when they were made.
tuz - Tue May 29, 2012 12:09 pm
try freesound.org
ford442 - Tue May 29, 2012 12:16 pm
my most recent track has a lot of birdsong - not used musically though..
http://soundcloud.com/noahcohn/arboreality
bob bobwood - Tue May 29, 2012 12:31 pm
where's Percy Thrower when you need him (sadly passed away)
further to tuzs' suggestion; http://www.freesound.org/search/?q=bird
Tricky-Loops - Tue May 29, 2012 12:32 pm
braj wrote:
my dad had records of bird songs when I was a kid, I know if it was possible in 1970 it must be possible now
Before you can use samples of the birds legally, you have to ask the birds themselves if they permit it and let them twitter the license agreement...
(according to the "Law for the protection of bird singings")
Meffy - Tue May 29, 2012 12:50 pm
tuz wrote:
try freesound.org
There's that. I've got just one item on that site, a recording of frogs and toads and birds as darkness fell about a week ago. If there are specific birds whose sounds you'd like, or kinds of terrain, say so and maybe I can record some for you. (I know it's not a library but might be useful anyway.) I'm in the mid-Atlantic (central Virginia) and can get to forest, swamp, river, suburban, and urban settings for recording purposes. My recorder is a Zoom H4n, bulky and slow to boot but the quality's rather nice.
cytospur - Tue May 29, 2012 12:57 pm
I should be in receipt of a Tascam DR-05 tomorrow (cheap, but good enough for what I 'need' it for). I could take it for a test run and record some birds at the local if you want?
Kriminal - Tue May 29, 2012 1:00 pm
Meffy wrote:
I have several sets of thin vinyl "soundsheet"-style phonograph records
flexi-discs, very popular with music magzines over here in the early 80's
had quite a few myself, no idea where they are now.
Meffy - Tue May 29, 2012 1:22 pm
*nod* I remember seeing kiddie records laminated right onto the backs of cardboard breakfast cereal boxes. You'd cut along the dotted line, punch out the hole, put the resulting square on a record player, and the needle would jump around 'cos the things were usually pretty badly warped. If you succeeded at playing one, you got a commercial for cereal -- entirely free! (with qualifying purchase)
Thin, unbacked black vinyl sheets sometimes came bound into magazines, with music or comedy or children's stories. Those tended to work a lot better.
cytospur - Tue May 29, 2012 1:24 pm
I think Dave's talking about his Smash Hits collection
james0tucson - Tue May 29, 2012 1:49 pm
Meffy wrote:
*nod* I remember seeing kiddie records laminated right onto the backs of cardboard breakfast cereal boxes. You'd cut along the dotted line, punch out the hole, put the resulting square on a record player, and the needle would jump around 'cos the things were usually pretty badly warped. If you succeeded at playing one, you got a commercial for cereal -- entirely free! (with qualifying purchase)
Thin, unbacked black vinyl sheets sometimes came bound into magazines, with music or comedy or children's stories. Those tended to work a lot better.
Thin, unbacked black vinyl sheets sometimes came bound into magazines, with music or comedy or children's stories. Those tended to work a lot better.
At one time I had a fairly significant collection of these. Notable (the main ones I remember) were a couple of Archies releases (that were _only_ released in this format!), a recording of the gunshots of the Kennedy assassination, a version of Hendrix's Red House that may or may not have ever been released anywhere else, and Mad Magazine originals "Makin' Out" and another Mad Magazie one that was interesting because it played different tracks at random (pretty cool). I also had one that was recorded from Alan Sheppard's first orbit.
Anyone else here ever have a copy of "Nixon's The One?" I think it might have been in Look magazine in '68.
Tex Ariox - Tue May 29, 2012 2:00 pm
Wikimedia Commons also has some recordings of birds: Audio files of Aves. The "Sounds of Passeriformes" subcategory is probably the most useful one for your purposes.
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 2:07 pm
Thanks for the links everyone, I really appreciate it and will check them all out soon.
Btw I remember an Archie's cereal box record of some Halloween stuff, oh those were fun but worked like a three legged chair.
LeVzi - Tue May 29, 2012 3:07 pm
Tricky-Loops wrote:
braj wrote:
my dad had records of bird songs when I was a kid, I know if it was possible in 1970 it must be possible now
Before you can use samples of the birds legally, you have to ask the birds themselves if they permit it and let them twitter the license agreement...
(according to the "Law for the protection of bird singings")
Birds twitter ?
Surprised no one's mentioned Roger Whittaker yet !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnN3nD6pCus
Tricky-Loops - Tue May 29, 2012 3:27 pm
LeVzi wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:
braj wrote:
my dad had records of bird songs when I was a kid, I know if it was possible in 1970 it must be possible now
Before you can use samples of the birds legally, you have to ask the birds themselves if they permit it and let them twitter the license agreement...
(according to the "Law for the protection of bird singings")
Birds twitter ?
Surprised no one's mentioned Roger Whittaker yet !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnN3nD6pCus
Who is Roger Tweetmaker?
ford442 - Tue May 29, 2012 3:47 pm
want to see a pair of great tits??
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Tit
LeVzi - Tue May 29, 2012 4:11 pm
Tricky-Loops wrote:
Who is Roger Tweetmaker?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnEAWgMGlNE
Tricky-Loops - Tue May 29, 2012 4:31 pm
LeVzi wrote:
Oh, I remember, the guy from "Albany" who have made every German house wife happy...
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 4:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLnXLmPuzDY
About Janis Joplin
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 4:37 pm
ford442 wrote:
Here are some Boobies just for you!
cytospur - Tue May 29, 2012 5:25 pm
Great tits? Boobies? What you need is a:
Tricky-Loops - Tue May 29, 2012 5:29 pm
braj wrote:
ford442 wrote:
Here are some Boobies just for you!
Dancing Boobies look so sexy...
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 5:36 pm
cytospur wrote:
Great tits? Boobies? What you need is a:
That's a cormorant, I think you meant loons:
cytospur - Tue May 29, 2012 5:48 pm
That explains a lot
I did, of course, mean:
Damned alcohol
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 5:50 pm
cytospur wrote:
That explains a lot
I did, of course, mean:
Damned alcohol
I did, of course, mean:
Damned alcohol
AHA!
morelia - Tue May 29, 2012 5:56 pm
Quite a few bird calls here. Only Aussie birds though.
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/michael-morcombe-eguide-to/id397979505?mt=8
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 6:00 pm
This looks to be what I was after:
http://www.xeno-canto.org/
From all around the world, with maps, looks comprehensive.
EDIT: Ugh! It might be something about my net connection, DNS maybe, but that site is not usable. OK, gonna look over all the links in this thread again.
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 6:33 pm
cytospur wrote:
A few here:
http://www.xeno-canto.org/europe/all_species.php
And here:
http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/
http://www.xeno-canto.org/europe/all_species.php
And here:
http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/
Sorry I missed the xeno-canto site in your post before. Does it work well for you? I'm having a hard time getting results to play.
braj - Tue May 29, 2012 6:58 pm
Well this is working for me, the files are MP3 and I can import easily to Studio One. It is pretty darn cool to make a groove template based on a bird call and get drums to play to that rhythm
I'm gonna add some delay and see what happens
http://www.naturesongs.com/pass.html
Cultureelect - Tue May 29, 2012 9:49 pm
Check my Sound.I did in 2003, using samples of birds of Brazil( my Country) made in Ibiza Ejay with samples of Ibiza Ejay too.
http://www.acidplanet.com/components/embedfile.asp?asset=237338&T=828
ford442 - Tue May 29, 2012 10:45 pm
[mod edit: This image gets a 403 error when hotlinked, which is why it wasn't showing up for me. If you paste http://www.weirdpicturearchive.com/img/doc-giantrooster.jpg into your browser's URL field (don't just click the link or you'll get the 403) you should see the picture, and it will then appear on this page as well.]
CrystalWizard - Tue May 29, 2012 10:55 pm
try here:
http://macaulaylibrary.org/browse/taxa/aves
i've found bird call CDs t the local thrift store a few times
here's something that happened in my lab about 8yrs ago:
http://gardenofsensualdelight.com/BirdBrainV1seq1.mp3
cytospur - Wed May 30, 2012 1:26 am
braj wrote:
cytospur wrote:
A few here:
http://www.xeno-canto.org/europe/all_species.php
And here:
http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/
http://www.xeno-canto.org/europe/all_species.php
And here:
http://www.garden-birds.co.uk/
Sorry I missed the xeno-canto site in your post before. Does it work well for you? I'm having a hard time getting results to play.
It works fine here, but then I've only tried downloading and playing in Audacity. I tend not to play mp3's in browsers any more - not since total recall of web browsers anyway. The number of shocks I've had launching Chrome only for the last mp3 or YouTube video to start blasting out on me unexpectedly!
glokraw - Wed May 30, 2012 2:46 am
braj wrote:
I'm hoping to find a vst or sample library/set of wavs of bird calls from around the world. They should be labors accurately so the original bird is identifiable. I have a little app for my phone like this but it would be really cool to make some compositions based on bird calls, create grooves, inherit their melodies etc. Anyone know where to look?
http://www.freesound.org/people/dobroide/sounds/137155/
this has nice Starling sounds, known to mimic the birds they compete with.
email to join and gain downloads, this person also has
some Cranes recorded.
Cheers
vurt - Wed May 30, 2012 3:14 am
the bird is the word, havent you heard...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y
Mike777 - Wed May 30, 2012 7:58 pm
Birds know chords! I heard a bird outside my window singing a perfect triad, like "C-E-G","C-E-G", I think 3 times in a row, pause, repeat many times.
cron - Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:14 pm
Check out the music of Olivier Messiaen. As well as being one of the 20th Century's greatest composers, he was very interested in birdsong and wrote many pieces inspired by it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdgUJss9BU
Doug1978 - Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:55 pm
Mike777 wrote:
Birds know chords! I heard a bird outside my window singing a perfect triad, like "C-E-G","C-E-G", I think 3 times in a row, pause, repeat many times.
They are also exceptionally good dancers too.
Check out this amazing 4-minute video from David Attenborough:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEh-zclVo44
izonin - Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:58 pm
Mike777 wrote:
Birds know chords! I heard a bird outside my window singing a perfect triad, like "C-E-G","C-E-G", I think 3 times in a row, pause, repeat many times.
Arpeggios are Bird's specialty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmroWIcCNUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LphuCadyQi0
braj - Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:05 pm
JPQ - Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:28 pm
At least here where i live there is soundfx cds which have different themes some for birds. and i asked them they can be used in also musical content. This kind solution is best what i know.
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