KVR :: Instruments » Where are all the Multitimbral Synths at?? [View Original Topic]
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bobbybland - Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:48 pm
I don't know about you, but isn't it strange that Omnisphere's probably the only good synth that can do Multitimbral stuff? ElectraX can do 4 patches, but you can't really pick them out and demo them with ease, due to their loading system, which by now should have been fixed..

So if it's a rompler, it's cool for multitimbral, but not synths??? Wow and I really thought we we're going somewhere by now ..lol

Seriously, dev's lets do this already.. For Sylenth version 2 I hope n pray it's a multi timbral option..

AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!

Let's get it!!!!!!
Lotuzia - Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:30 am
Synthix is Multitimbral 8 with the guitar mode. Though you can use this mode with any controller, like a keyboard.

Allows you to make huge stacks for example, or very complex pads, textures, or sequences etc etc.

And well, its a synth, not a rompler nor sampler.
Shy - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:01 am
Chipsounds and AnaMark are two very powerful synths that are multitimbral.
lfm - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:09 am
NI Kontakt and some other samplers like Vsampler does it.

As for synths there are plenty synths patches you can mix in the collections of NI CORE, NI KOMPLETE or what their names are in the way you ask for.

Arturia Analog Experience Factory lets you mix patches between a series of synths under one gui interface even creating what they call "scenes".

But I wonder if the need is really that great for synths?

In all daws of today it's so simple to load multiple instances of anything you want. And with the nice abilities of track groups you handle them as a single entity.

Setup 2,3 or 4 instances of a synth and a midi track under a track group and save as a track template - and you easily add this to your project and select any patch in any of these instances to mix and figure out new nice sounds.
Smile
whyterabbyt - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:26 am
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?
jupiter8 - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:45 am
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?

Me ? I just sit down and meditate until all my worldly desires are gone.

If that don't work (and it rarely does to be honest) i just use Reapers track templates. Piece of cake. I can layer and save as many synths as i want.

Grasshopper, explore not the impossible,explore the possible.
Numanoid - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:46 am
bobbybland wrote:
I don't know about you, but isn't it strange that Omnisphere's probably the only good synth that can do Multitimbral stuff?


A VST synth that can play more than one preset at once, yeah it's true there are not many of those around.

Dimension Pro can play four patches at once, but I guess that is more like a rompler.

Crystal can breed patches by combining more than one, does that count?
whyterabbyt - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:55 am
jupiter8 wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?

Me ? I just sit down and meditate until all my worldly desires are gone.

If that don't work (and it rarely does to be honest) i just use Reapers track templates. Piece of cake. I can layer and save as many synths as i want.

Grasshopper, explore not the impossible,explore the possible.


Smile

Exactly my point, though. One still has to use layering (in-DAW or with a subhost) if you want to layer different synths. So why worry about multitimbrality as an alternative to layering the same synth? Surely one consistent method is better than two?
himalaya - Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:02 am
bobbybland wrote:
but not synths???


Try Halion Sonic.
vurt - Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:14 am
dont our hosts and the fact we can open as many instances of synths as we need make them multitimbral in a sense?
in hardware its different as we only have the one unit which cant be replicated aside itself, so they needed to be multitimbral within themselves...
Lotuzia - Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:17 am
Actually this can make sense in some situations because in the Synthix for example, you have many possible interaction between the layers = multitimbral parts, and global parameters, like the Global joystick LFO, effects, (wich can be controled by layers parameters ) etc etc.

NOt counting the interactios between the two keyboards, wich can receive any number of layers, all the play modes, the sequencer or the arpegiattors etc.

Some of these interactions could be recreated by layering several synthix in your daw, and it would be very cumbersome. Some just could not.

Btw the two workflows are not antinomic, and layering of several different synths is also very rewarding, but if its all in a synth, with additional features, it cant harm. Just use the one technique that serves you best in this or that situation.

To the OP : Using a subhost like Chainer ( if you're on a PC) or Kore 2 can also give you the opportunity to save stacks of different/identical synths as presets

LtZ
Teksonik - Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:01 am
bobbybland wrote:
I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


I think the OP just wants to save everything in a single patch without having to load a template with say four separate instances and then load four patches etc.......

Albino is one that comes to mind right off...it allows you to load four separate patches then save that as a single patch......
Mushy Mushy - Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:03 am
Just use Instrument Racks in Live Cool
filter303 - Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:08 am
I've been thinking this same question as I love layering patches from inside the synth.
It's much clumsier to do it from the host because then you can't save presets
in the same way.

I just made about 15 of my own combis for sampletank and it's a whole lot fun... or would be if sampletank had a proper patch browser.
Confused
osiris - Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:13 am
Sylenth version 2.... Shrug Shrug Question Question
olepro - Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:24 am
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


I use Vaz 2010 or Vaz Modular
kbaccki - Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:29 am
LuSH-101 is multimbral… but here's the catch: it doesn't exist yet… any… day… nooowwwwww….
Teksonik - Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:31 am
olepro wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


I use Vaz 2010 or Vaz Modular


No, he said different synths...... Razz
bobbybland - Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:44 am
jupiter8, I really wish Studio One had a similar option.

Himalaya, I already own Halion Sonic + Halion 4 + Mach Five 3 + etc.. etc..

I'm more interested in actual synth's such as sylenth being multi timbral, or synths like that, more VA's with the option perhaps Alchemy for instance Wink

Either way I'd like to see more DEV's start creating these.

osiris, lol I'm hoping for a miracle Cool
highkoo - Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:16 am
I guess my gut reaction is to do this in the host. Its 'easier'. In the host, they all work the same way. HiHi
Although I see how there could be some unique interaction between the layers if the synth was built that way.
But I also dont think I ever got my head to this level of synth programming really. I dont know what Id do with it except create face melter pads for ravers. HiHi

Do any of these few have presets that show off the layers? Electrax?
Lotuzia - Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:07 am
highkoo wrote:
I guess my gut reaction is to do this in the host. Its 'easier'. In the host, they all work the same way. HiHi
Although I see how there could be some unique interaction between the layers if the synth was built that way.
But I also dont think I ever got my head to this level of synth programming really. I dont know what Id do with it except create face melter pads for ravers. HiHi

Do any of these few have presets that show off the layers? Electrax?


All these miniclips are played with ONE instance of Synthix ... Live

See the interaction at 1.41 in the Tdreamesque clip. Some sequencer events can trig some layers parameters, wich can themselves trigg some global Fx automation, in many clips, the Glide and some of the filter automation are global, but can also be altered in the layers themselves, also the playing modes can interacting with all the above in many sophisticated ways, and with the arpeggiators. Thats how deep you can go.

Synthix Splits and Complex
highkoo - Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:36 am
Zang. That is pretty deep. Amazing.
I cant even wrap my head around how its being played. HiHi
Are those presets in the demo?
_leras - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:12 pm
Lotuzia wrote:
Synthix is Multitimbral 8 with the guitar mode. Though you can use this mode with any controller, like a keyboard.

Allows you to make huge stacks for example, or very complex pads, textures, or sequences etc etc.

And well, its a synth, not a rompler nor sampler.

Pita to program though....

ElectraX has a seemingly more elegant solution and makes it easy to create some pretty rich and powerful sounds - the layers of the synth are just *much* easier to access edit change etc, or just more intuitive...
liquidsound - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:17 pm
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?
Use a MUX.
Inside it you can layer anything and modulate anything. It's a Combinator on steroids. It even has a drum module, sampler etc.
Lotuzia - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:32 pm
highkoo wrote:
Zang. That is pretty deep. Amazing.
I cant even wrap my head around how its being played. HiHi
Are those presets in the demo?


Unfortunately no its in an add on bank Le Lotus Bleu is just releasing for the Synthix, you can find more details and more audio demos in this KVR thread : Big Sounds for the XXIsrt Century

LtZ
whyterabbyt - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:37 pm
liquidsound wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?
Use a MUX.
Inside it you can layer anything and modulate anything. It's a Combinator on steroids. It even has a drum module, sampler etc.


No, I know what I do. I use Bidule.
Lotuzia - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:38 pm
_leras wrote:
Lotuzia wrote:
Synthix is Multitimbral 8 with the guitar mode. Though you can use this mode with any controller, like a keyboard.

Allows you to make huge stacks for example, or very complex pads, textures, or sequences etc etc.

And well, its a synth, not a rompler nor sampler.

Pita to program though....

ElectraX has a seemingly more elegant solution and makes it easy to create some pretty rich and powerful sounds - the layers of the synth are just *much* easier to access edit change etc, or just more intuitive...


Seems that some other people have less problems to program it :

Synthix Splits and Complex

One instance of Synthix playing ..... live. No daw automation, no nothing. Music ......

Not saying that Synthix cannot become a bit complex to program : Power has a price. But everybody can program it at his own level, and it is always rewarding. The good news it that there are many presets you can deconstruct to learn how things can be done, or, if you're not interested into that, just PLAY.
zerocrossing - Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:43 pm
Here you go:

http://www.discodsp.com/discoverypro/
olepro - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:01 pm
Teksonik wrote:
olepro wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


I use Vaz 2010 or Vaz Modular


No, he said different synths...... Razz


You may be joking, but Vaz 2010 and Vaz Modular can both host 16 synths.
And it can be a combination of it's own synth and vst synths with insert effects.
So you could have in channel 1 a Vaz synth with effects and in channel 2 a vst synth with effects which can be vaz own insert fx and/or vst fx.
If you set them to the same midi channel you can play them stacked.

For a nice phat sound, why not stack 16 Smile
Lotuzia - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:23 pm
Yes Vaz is powerfull too.

I forgot to mention it but the Legacy Cell from Korg is also nice. It can handle any combination of MS-20 + Polysix ( up to two only but with full polyphony) in a nice Shell with macro buttons + you can add up to 4 Mdex effect per patch.
glokraw - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:26 pm
zynaddsubfx is true 16 part multi-timbral, and saves its combos as patches.
Sounds excellent, and the price is reasonable.
Cheers
Uncle E - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:31 pm
whyterabbyt wrote:
What do you do when you want to layer different synths?

In Cubase, you can record activate different tracks at the same time.
C-note - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:33 pm
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


Phrazor 1.3 demo (load and save working) - http://www.sonicbytes.com/phrazor/phrazor.htm min
Uncle E - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:33 pm
bobbybland wrote:
I'm more interested in actual synth's such as sylenth being multi timbral, or synths like that, more VA's with the option perhaps Alchemy for instance Wink

Omnisphere has a full-blown synth section. You don't necessarily have to use it as a rompler.
zerocrossing - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:34 pm
Also, in Ableton Live you can make an instrument rack and save it as a preset and have any number of synths and effects in there.
glokraw - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:39 pm
zerocrossing wrote:
Also, in Ableton Live you can make an instrument rack and save it as a preset and have any number of synths and effects in there.

Do the presets go to a menu for re-selection? If so, that's a fine feature Cool
himalaya - Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:44 pm
bobbybland wrote:

Himalaya, I already own Halion Sonic + Halion 4 + Mach Five 3 + etc.. etc..

I'm more interested in actual synth's such as sylenth being multi timbral, or synths like that, more VA's with the option perhaps Alchemy for instance Wink



But Halion Sonic has a very powerful VA built in, which is what I meant when I suggested it. How did you miss that? It's certainly more powerful than Sylenth which you keep referring to.
zerocrossing - Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:03 pm
glokraw wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
Also, in Ableton Live you can make an instrument rack and save it as a preset and have any number of synths and effects in there.

Do the presets go to a menu for re-selection? If so, that's a fine feature Cool


I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe this helps:

http://vimeo.com/9472946

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/articles/livetech_0107.htm
Uncle E - Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:09 pm
himalaya wrote:
But Halion Sonic has a very powerful VA built in, which is what I meant when I suggested it. How did you miss that? It's certainly more powerful than Sylenth which you keep referring to.

I adore Halion Sonic. Tons of useable, easily accessible sounds. For me, it's the best software workstation available.
VariKusBrainZ - Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:38 am
FXpansion Fusor
Uncle E - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:08 am
VariKusBrainZ wrote:
FXpansion Fusor

Very nice, I forgot that! Smile
whyterabbyt - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:28 am
Uncle E wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
What do you do when you want to layer different synths?

In Cubase, you can record activate different tracks at the same time.


Why does everyone except the OP keep answering this?

I'm not trying to find out how it can be done, I already know that quite well, thanks. Im trying to find out how the OP expects to do it, since its going to have to be different from the constraints he's set up for himself for using the same synth, which he expects multitimbral synths to 'solve'.
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:36 am
Uncle E wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
I'm more interested in actual synth's such as sylenth being multi timbral, or synths like that, more VA's with the option perhaps Alchemy for instance Wink

Omnisphere has a full-blown synth section. You don't necessarily have to use it as a rompler.


Right on ,thats what I'm saying at least Omni offers this.
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:38 am
himalaya wrote:
bobbybland wrote:

Himalaya, I already own Halion Sonic + Halion 4 + Mach Five 3 + etc.. etc..

I'm more interested in actual synth's such as sylenth being multi timbral, or synths like that, more VA's with the option perhaps Alchemy for instance Wink



But Halion Sonic has a very powerful VA built in, which is what I meant when I suggested it. How did you miss that? It's certainly more powerful than Sylenth which you keep referring to.


It's definitely very powerful, I don't think the VA in it sounds as good to my ears as sylenth..not even close. 2 my ears
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:39 am
zerocrossing wrote:
Also, in Ableton Live you can make an instrument rack and save it as a preset and have any number of synths and effects in there.


Another reason for Studio One dev's to create an option like this!!! damn't Crying or Very sad
whyterabbyt - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:41 am
C-note wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
bobbybland wrote:
AND Yes I know we can layer them inside a daw, that's besides the point, I wanna make bigger sounds and save them as layered instruments/synths for easy recall.. And I really don't wanna have to rely on a Kore solution to do this!!!


What do you do when you want to layer different synths?


Phrazor 1.3 demo (load and save working) - http://www.sonicbytes.com/phrazor/phrazor.htm min


And Ive owned it (bought it when it originally came out) and used it. And Chainer, and Bidule, and energyXT, and Kore, and Usine.(*) But all those things are pretty much what I suspect the OP meant by 'a Kore solution', ie a sub-host, which he says he doesnt want to use for layering multiple instances of the same synth.

Which is why I was trying to find out what he does for layering multiple instances of different synth. Because layering synths is layering synths, whether they're the same or not.

(*)And VazModular.
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:43 am
whyterabbyt wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
whyterabbyt wrote:
What do you do when you want to layer different synths?

In Cubase, you can record activate different tracks at the same time.


Why does everyone except the OP keep answering this?

I'm not trying to find out how it can be done, I already know that quite well, thanks. Im trying to find out how the OP expects to do it, since its going to have to be different from the constraints he's set up for himself for using the same synth, which he expects multitimbral synths to 'solve'.


What do you mean, what do I wanna do? I thought I made myself very clear, I'm looking for multi timbral synths -to layer and stack upon each other, the same synth is fine, layer patches together sort of like halion sonic/electrax/omnisphere can do, I also own fusor n it can do this, but I'm just saying there should be many more options for VA's

I own cubase as well as studio one, with cubase I can layer n save a multi track preset,thats nice, but I'm speaking more about why aren't there more VA synths,that offer users options sto stack within the plugin itself. that's all Cool
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:45 am
What do I wanna do? LAYER and make Bigger Fatter sounding synth presets/sounds/multis, that can be triggered at the same time? lol Very Happy

In other words.. Midi Channel 1 for the trigger right, and be able to LAYER multiple synths for a bigger more interesting sound!!!
whyterabbyt - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:47 am
bobbybland wrote:
What do you mean, what do I wanna do?


I dont actually think I asked you that. I asked how you currently layer different synths. I keep using the word 'how', not the word 'what'.

Quote:
I own cubase as well as studio one, with cubase I can layer n save a multi track preset,thats nice, but I'm speaking more about why aren't there more VA synths,that offer users options sto stack within the plugin itself. that's all Cool


Well the answer to that has already been given; because you can use multiple instances, and layer them. And since you'd have to use multiple instances and layer them if they were different synths, then using multiple instances and layering them for the same synth is probably the most consistent way to work, best supported by the host, or 'a Kore solution' as you called it.
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:50 am
That's exactly what I'm saying, why aren't dev's creating these for the actual synth ??I'm not interested in KORE ever again lol, seriously, I think some of the rompler synths such as halion sonic/hypersonic2/omnisphere are my fav's because at least theres the option.

Anyways if Sylenth dev is listening somewhere out there, please make Sylenth 2 with this option, I'll buy it in a f**king heartbeat!
Uncle E - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:53 am
bobbybland wrote:
It's definitely very powerful, I don't think the VA in it sounds as good to my ears as sylenth..not even close. 2 my ears

If you love Sylenth, you'll love a Virus even more. The Virus TI and Powercore Virus are both multitimbral.
whyterabbyt - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:57 am
bobbybland wrote:
That's exactly what I'm saying, why aren't dev's creating these for the actual synth


is it not obvious that im saying that its because its best done in a host? Shrug
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:57 am
NEXUS 3??? Cool

So your saying this because of cpu processing then right?
whyterabbyt - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:03 am
bobbybland wrote:
So your saying this because of cpu processing then right?


who are you asking?
bobbybland - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:21 am
Is this what YOU are referring to? That the reason why dev's don't seem to do it,is because of cpu processing,and it's better for the host to process multiple instances vs a synth itself?

I'm thinking a multitimbral dune or sylenth would be fine on my macpro, they aren't very cpu intensive. anyways if any dev's read there are users who would love this as an option!
whyterabbyt - Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:37 am
bobbybland wrote:
Is this what YOU are referring to? That the reason why dev's don't seem to do it,is because of cpu processing,and it's better for the host to process multiple instances vs a synth itself?


Me? No, I gave you a completely different reason, which didnt mention 'CPU processing' at all. Im not sure where you get that, I dont think its even been mentioned in the thread. Where do you get the idea that I meant or said anything like that?
glokraw - Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:10 pm
bobbybland wrote:
What do I wanna do? LAYER and make Bigger Fatter sounding synth presets/sounds/multis, that can be triggered at the same time? lol Very Happy

In other words.. Midi Channel 1 for the trigger right, and be able to LAYER multiple synths for a bigger more interesting sound!!!

Sampletank and SonicSynth from IK do that. The zynaddsubfx has some good banks in
the database, laba170, Cormi, and Folderol (Internet Collection).
The docs page at sourceforge zynaddsubfx has a folder of misc sounds, some are exceptional. 'Load all parameters' menu choice, loads saved multi-timbral patches. You add extra sounds one at a time, up to 16, then run another instance.
Pray for cpu. Wink
glokraw - Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:16 pm
zerocrossing wrote:
glokraw wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
Also, in Ableton Live you can make an instrument rack and save it as a preset and have any number of synths and effects in there.

Do the presets go to a menu for re-selection? If so, that's a fine feature Cool


I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe this helps:

http://vimeo.com/9472946

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/articles/livetech_0107.htm

Thanks for the links, I'll try to get Lite 8 installed, and follow along the video.

Having a menu option like 'Open Saved Racks', and being able to load a few of them
at will during a session, would be nice.
Cheers
VariKusBrainZ - Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:03 am
glokraw wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
glokraw wrote:
zerocrossing wrote:
Also, in Ableton Live you can make an instrument rack and save it as a preset and have any number of synths and effects in there.

Do the presets go to a menu for re-selection? If so, that's a fine feature Cool


I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe this helps:

http://vimeo.com/9472946

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jan07/articles/livetech_0107.htm

Thanks for the links, I'll try to get Lite 8 installed, and follow along the video.

Having a menu option like 'Open Saved Racks', and being able to load a few of them
at will during a session, would be nice.
Cheers


Yes, Abletons racks are great, if you own it!!
How are racks better than something like EnergyXT?
Have you tried changing rack presets?
Its not the best solution, you cant use program change messages, you have to 'hot swap'.
Feel free to correct me if Im wrong....id be chuffed to learn theres actually an easier/better way!!
ew - Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:39 am
More multitimbral synths:

CUBE
TERA
Korg M1
Largo
PPG 3V (the old version was as well)
Reaktor (if you wish)

Stuff that isn't supported anymore:

XPhraze
All the Bitheadz stuff
Komplexer

ew

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