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V'ger - Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:31 am

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ONE-SYNTH-CHALLENGE WEBSITE

Minimoog-V by Arturia

RULES:
Submissions MUST comply with ALL the rules HERE!

Song(s) must be submitted before 1st August (KVR time)

Both Minimoog-V free and full version can be used, together or separately.

PRIZES:
Arturia : 1 V-Collection 3.0 and 1 Mini V license


Sonic Academy : 1 ANA license


Wusik : Wusik Station Full + Wusik EVE Full


MaxSynths : Free choice of either Cryologic, Teutonic Tension or aPiano


Rob Lee Music : A soundset for either: Sylenth1, Predator, Largo, Blofeld, PPGV3 or Dune


Electric Himalaya : Free choice of one soundset (as sold directly via the website)


Luftrum : Free choice of one soundset for either Glass Viper, Roland Gaia SH-01, Animoog or Reason

Kreativ Sound: RAW Bundle
(RAW Bass, RAW Drums, RAW TranSID, RAW Textures)

Aiyn Zahev Sounds: 2 Soundsets of choice
(Uplifting Trance Presets)


Studio 13.37: Pro audio studio on a USB stick


Pooya Payvar (Stonail) : 1 custom made Max for [Ableton] Live: controller, midi or audio effect


Synth Magic : Any 3 instruments


3ee Sound Design : 1 sound set of choice


Any other offers of prizes will be greatly appreciated.

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SuperNoise - Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:05 am

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Some explanation how the minimoog works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0cbMkOvY0&feature=endscreen&NR=1 by Dr.Moog

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schnibbelkram - Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:35 am

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Where can i get the free verion ?

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IrionDaRonin - Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:49 am

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It was available on Arturia website just for one day only.
We spammed people thru private messages, in the Minimogue VA OSC, and also in the main thread.
But still there are people who didn't get it at time.
So very sorry for this.

Have a good day

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SuperNoise - Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:55 am

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On 21st of June Arturia gave to everyone free copy of Minimoog V, only one day promo. Right now you may ask if anybody got two copies of minimoog V instead one or check Arturia www side. Good luck!

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evo2slo - Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:09 am

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The full version can be demoed for fifteen days, no restrictions:
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/downloads/demos.html

The extra options in the full version are great. Nice automation control section and vowel filters. Even those who have the free may want to consider using the full version demo instead.

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V'ger - Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:22 am

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Good call Evo, that will fix it for those who missed the giveaway.

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V'ger - Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:55 pm

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And in case anyone missed it the synth is cross-platform so finally something for Mac users again.

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___loser - Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:41 pm

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As far as the 15 day demo goes. I did just that. Now 4 hours later I just got a warning of 15 more starts left. so be aware

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glokraw - Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:35 am

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might be session time limits, as well, less time each session...not yet proven
scientifically. MinimogueLUXUS is good without restrictions.
Cheers

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V'ger - Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:22 am

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Should have been stated on the site, but still not so bad as it's just to leave it open the day it's being used, and it's not so likely to crash and cost another start either.

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evo2slo - Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:53 am

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Achtung!

Just found something very cool on the Arturia forum. Thank you Manuel!

An offer from Beat magazine for a 60 day activation code for Laboratory, Jupiter-8V, Prophet V, ARP 2600 V, Minimoog V, CS-80V und Moog Modular V (and possibly the Oberheim SEM - I can't test it as I already have it).
According to the date on the website the offer has expired, but I just signed up and it works! The activation code was emailed to me right away.

According to my Soft-elicenser:


Here's the link:
http://www.beat.de/arturia/

Remember, don't thank me, thank Manuel! (and Beat Magazine of course)

If the sign-up continues to work for everyone, I guess there could also be the option of using an Arturia synth next month as well. I would vote for the Oberheim SEM.

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satYatunes - Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:47 am

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So, which synth is allowed this month? Free one of course, 15 days demo. What else? Any of these 60 days one? Sorry, just making clear.

V'ger I see that you have changed it to WusikStation Full without any version so I assume it's v7. Thanks.

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IrionDaRonin - Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:28 pm

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The free version, the complete version and the demo trial versions (15 days, 60 days, etc) as i can read.

Have a good day Satya

I started my track already. I think this month is going to be epic...

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V'ger - Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:29 pm

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Good news! Arturia has donated a 'surprise' special prize and also a Mini V license..

Thank you Arturia.

Arturia : 1 Surprise 1st prize and 1 Mini V license

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adagiocm - Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:47 pm

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Hi Guys,

I discovered that with the free version we can get full access to all the parameters!!

Here is how: Export your patch. Open the file with a decent text editor. GNU Emacs works well for example. The file has some non-ASCII characters used as separators, but the parameter names and values are in plainly readable ASCII ! All the parameter values are in floating point. With the help of the manual, one can decipher all the parameters and values. Edit it to the values you want to set, and import it back. No need to bother with downloading/installing the demo version.

Enjoy!

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SuperNoise - Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:10 am

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It is more comfortable to edit presets in 15 days trial instrument (with managing extra parameters) then load edited presets to free version of the instrument.

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V'ger - Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:59 am

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This doesn't work here (on PC (XP)) unfortunately. Even tried a hex editor but the file seems almost empty which makes sense as importing doesn't change the sound at all. Don't know what's going on there..

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adagiocm - Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:14 am

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I was using XP also. Importing in this synth is pretty non-intuitive. It doesn't change the current sound. It creates a new preset (even if one with the same name exists). If you look at the banks pull down menu after import, you see that a new bank is created which includes the imported patch.

On seeing an almost empty file, I'm not sure why. Maybe it is the particular editor you are using? If you email me the file, I can see if I can help diagnose it when I get home in about 7-8 hours.

One thing to check real quick: you are not saving the file as .fxp right? The .fxp file has a different format which is not human readable. Use the Minimoog-V's export/import functionality.

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V'ger - Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:26 pm

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I've been trying with .minibank. I take an existing preset, tweak it to a new sound, rename the patch within the synth, then export. The exported file is 0 bytes and shows up nothing in Notepad2 or Universal Viewer. In Free Hex Editor there are just a few squares showing.

I tried to install the GNU Emacs, but just downloading it is beyond me so pass on that.

But which parameters are we talking about here? Using the DAWs native GUI I already get the all the chorus, delay and vocal filter parameters + LFO rate and mod 1-8 amount.

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adagiocm - Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:02 pm

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Very odd. That's what I do too, and I think the file I get is around 4kb.


Yeah, this doesn't seem to be editor related based on what you are describing anyway. Baffling...


I thought the most useful ones are the mod source and destination. Also I'm not sure if we get LFO tempo sync through the DAW native GUI, so maybe that too. (I'm not near my music computer right now so I couldn't check.)

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adagiocm - Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:48 pm

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OK, I'm home, and checking this through Reaper (on XP). I tried exporting a preset in Minimoog-V hosted in Reaper, and it worked. Parameters not available through Reaper UI (but can be accessed through the imported file):
- Chorus Type (TYPE_CHORUSPARV)
- LFO Waveform (LFO_WAVEPARV)
- LFO MIDI sync (LFO_SYNCPARV)
- Mod Matrix ( 1-8 ) source and destination (MODULATION01_INPUTPARV ... etc)
- Vocal Filter: X and Y parameters for all 5 formants (FORMANT_A_XPARV FORMANT_A_YPARV FORMANT_E_XPARV FORMANT_E_YPARV ... etc)
- Vocal Filter: Formant LFO Rate (FORMANT_LFO_RATEPARV)
- Motion Recorder (which I don't care about, redundant with DAW/Effects)
- Arp (don't care for the same reason)

All delay parameters are indeed available through the DAW UI, but that's not too interesting anyway since it is redundant with respect to a decent external delay.

That's all for now. V'ger, I'm still not sure why you were unable to export successfully.

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bumtu - Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:23 am

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Hi,
I noticed strange behaviour of free minimoog V when it comes to automation in Ableton. I drew automation curve in one midi track and it affects also all other instances of minimoog V in the project. So for example increasing filter cutoff of one sound does the same for all sounds in project. I checked different midi channels but it didn't help. Only freezing automated track helps. Freezed automated midi tracks don't affect others. Funny thing... This makes work more complex but maybe I'll finish my track somehow...
Automated minimoog V2.5 demo behaves normally so I can rely on it for 15 days (and max 15 or 20 project openings as I remember).

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V'ger - Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:36 am

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Weird, but do you mean MIDI automation only? How about normal automation? Will check this later and see if it's the same here.

@Adagiocm: I now managed to save a patch that contained data, don't know why it refuses to do so other times. (worked on the 6th export) And the patch also opens in Notepad2 using the recode function after (F8 ), so it's all working like you say.

Only have to find out what parameters corresponds to what values etc, so I'll need to install the demo.

This could be quite useful.

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evo2slo - Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:07 am

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bumtu, did you try this?:
http://www.beat.de/arturia/
Full version demo for 60 days, 800 starts.

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SuperNoise - Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:22 am

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Full Minimoog works in Ableton fine, so far.

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SuperNoise - Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:40 am

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Well, I have checked two instances of free Minimoog in Ableton. I didn't noticed any automation transparency.
Bumtu, didn't you changed by chance midi map?

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adagiocm - Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:42 am

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@evo2slo, good deal, I requested the demo 10-15 minutes ago, and waiting for the code to arrive in the email.

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adagiocm - Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:44 am

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@V'ger, I'm glad that it is working for you. I like this as a long term solution so that we can continue using this synth at its full potential

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V'ger - Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:30 am

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Absolutely. Can even make a template with the most used things set and use that as an init patch.

@Bumtu: Confirmed in Reaper here. Very bizarre that automating MIDI in one instance affects all other instances, never seen that before. But of course native (DAW) automation works fine.

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bumtu - Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:16 am

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Thank you Evo2slo for reminding me this one. Oh, you had mentioned it earlier but I missed it. Yeah, I'm using now 60 days demo!

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adagiocm - Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:26 am

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Oddly, I still didn't get an email from them with the registration code. Did you sign up recently Bumtu?

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bumtu - Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:35 am

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V'ger, appreciate your confirmation. I meant that my native (DAW) automation makes the problem. So rather some of my DAW settings must be wrong. I installed now minimoog 60 days demo and run fresh and new project but still having the same problem (automating for example CC#74 filter cuttof).
But automating several instances of other synths in the same project goes well.

I'd better skip automation this month. Or I'll later try another DAW option like 'configure mode' meaning that by clicking a vst flt cutoff knob for example, the same dial appears in this vst instance midi track and you can record automation, too.

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bumtu - Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:44 am

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Yes, Adagiocm, I signed up today in the morning and had to wait for their email no longer than one hour. Shall you try again, sending different email maybe?

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bumtu - Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:52 am

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Thanks SuperNoise. I'm sure I didn't change midi map. Well, that's fine, I will not touch this option.

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adagiocm - Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:57 am

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Thanks Bumtu. I think the problem was that I let Chrome translate the registration page to English, which must have messed up their scripts. A few minutes ago I resubmitted without translating the page, and just got the code!

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bumtu - Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:11 am

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Expecting your submission!

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IrionDaRonin - Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:46 pm

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I got the same issue. And indeed, using the german version it works perfect.

Anyway i will use the free version, due i finished the track yesterday, i just need to master it a bit more, a couple of basic automationsm the title and the portrait.
What a good sounding synth, isn't it?

Have a good day

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bumtu - Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:59 pm

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True! I lost my enthusiasm when trying to fight automated desease but now I don't think about that and focused on sounds. And tweaking the knobs caused that the smile is back on my face!

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adagiocm - Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:04 pm

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I agree, I really like this synth!

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V'ger - Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:36 pm

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The last part you describe is probably the DAW native automation which should work fine, it's the other one that sends MIDI CC messages that affects all instances somehow, probably due to some controller map (a file in the minimoog folder).

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bumtu - Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:10 am

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This gave me clear picture now. Thanks for lesson. And yes, DAW native automation works fine with minimoog V.

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APZX - Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:55 am

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From a philosophical perspective I believe that going to the native GUI supplied by your DAW of choice rather than the one supplied with the VST itself is wrong. But I do see the point of it because it is not like the options themselves do not work. They most certainly do.

Anyway, I'm going to post up my WIP Veiled Journey for this OSC.

http://soundcloud.com/apzx/veiled-journey

So far it is pretty minimal in the way things are going. Got plenty of room left for mixing and tweaking of sounds to make it sound better. But right now just trying to get some ideas down.

Edit - Uploading the completed version to SoundCloud. Will probably take a little bit due to size. The full version will also be available for download.

To the notes about the track:
25 instances of Arturia Minimoog V Original

Other plugs used
VoS BaxterEQ, DensityMKIII, BootEQ MKII, EpicVerb, and TesslaSE
Kjaerhus Audio Classic Delay and Classic EQ
Vldag Molot and Limiter No6
Sonimus SonEQ
Vacuum Sound Poor Plate
Antress Modern Monoizer
GSi WatKat

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V'ger - Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:53 am

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New prize added, check it out!

Synth Magic: Any 3 instruments

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IrionDaRonin - Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:30 am

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Thanks to prize donators, they make this contest a bit more competitive game.

Have a good day

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nikp2000 - Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:13 am

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_

A bit of minimal/ambient soundscaping.

5 tries at trying to get something together. 5 instances of minimoog V. compression and limter from ableton live.

http://soundcloud.com/nikp2000/nikp2000-v5

nick

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Oktipus - Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:48 pm

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A quirky eurostyle techno track inspired by Kraftwerk.

http://soundcloud.com/oktipus/risk-elektroherz


Created in FL Studio 10
9 instances of Minimoog-V
Effects used : All DAW effects (Fruity Limiter, Fruity Reeverb, Fruity Parametric EQ) except for Izotope Vinyl for the intro.

The pecussion patches were banging the cpu, so I had to bounce them down. It seems only the percussion patches were causing the cpu overloading. Everything else behaves fine.

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IrionDaRonin - Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:23 am

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Do you all know that I hate aggressive spammers, don't you guys?

Here i got one.

Aggressive Spammer profile

I saw "her" in the Risk track (see above) and in the BjornChapman track submission in Music Cafe this month.

That "girl" only have one favourited track in "her" profile, which obviously was made by her boyfriend (if exist), or "herself".
"She" is copypasting the same message in each track that "she" stumble upon, without even to listen the track. I see this disrespectful to other musicians.

"awesome remix
I like your style, this really sounds great
You might try sending it here: http://www.facebook.org/people/@/210200512409862
They promote stuff like this. I sent mine in and they featured it. Maybe you should try it too.
<3 christine"

Obviously, with a girl pic and a girl account "she" can attract sexually more guys to check "her" profile and watch the unique track that there is.
So now you know how you can be a (in)famous in Soundcloud with this stupid trick, in case you are interested.

And if you want to see a proof about she is always copypasting the same message over and over. Go here

What a shame...

Have a good day

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SKYZONE - Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:45 am

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Thanks for that message irion there will always people with good intentions and others with bad ones .

Meanwhile i made a other track .........

The silent majority

Host fruityloops 10

33 samples from minimoog-v

1 instance of minimoog-v vst

Some reverb and delay and limiter and some compression all effects came from mother host


enjoy



Fabrizio

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Oktipus - Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:15 am

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If you follow the Facebook link, it leads you to a website called (SUBLVL) sublvl.com (typical spammer, using a female avatar)

If you Google SUBLVL, you'll see they've been spamming SoundCloud for months with hundreds of accounts.

They've got a YouTube account where they're posting videos of songs and putting a link to go to download the songs on their site, which they don't have rights to offer.

Garbage like this is usually based out of India or China. Best thing to do is just report the spammers. Usually SoundCloud gets rid of them quickly.


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@Fabrizio - nice track / The silent majority

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IrionDaRonin - Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:19 am

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Don't worry, already done, i never waste my time

And wow, from 710 followers to 850 in 3 hours, how people can be fooled that way...?

Have a good day man and good luck

EDITED:

The spammer profile has been suspended.

I got an e-mail from Soundcloud staff. There is an option where you can set a profile as spammer.
I received also a pic as example so you can do it by yourself in case you find spammer profiles. (See the pink square)

https://img.skitch.com/20120522-xuypnsd32ag95w9aeu71n48hn9.jpg

Yup, definitelly they are getting famous...

Have a good day guys

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SuperNoise - Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:02 am

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I know, my problem may sound quite funny because of my nick name, but durring my sound design with minimoog I have impression, the minimoog has lack of high frequency juicy noise... That's why I had some problems to create nice sounding snares and right now some spacy pads.

Is it your immpression too or rather is my lack of sound design expercience? Or both. That do you think?

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IrionDaRonin - Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:09 am

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Did you open the filter cutoff?
Did you raise a bit the resonance knob?
Are you using the white noise selector instead of pink?
Did you add a triangle oscillator with the noise for more punch?
Or feel free to use a EQ and raise the mid-high frecuencies.

Maybe it could be another problem. But i didn't too much problem with the snares. Although my track doesn't have snares
If you need something more, i will try to help you a bit more.

Have a good day SuperNoise.

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dwringer - Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:06 pm

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Great suggestions; IMHO it has been very difficult to create anything like a "real" sounding snare, and even trying to make a gentle slightly resonant electronic sound has been giving me difficulties. On the other hand, when I try to create a supercharged 80's progressive rock snare sound with lots of gated reverb and compression, I get much better results. It has a pretty dynamic response too from what I've been able to come up with. The presets for percussion are garbage, am I the only one who thinks so?

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adagiocm - Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:20 pm

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I agree. Then again, so are the ones that I came up with so far.

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IrionDaRonin - Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:45 pm

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Well, what i noticed about drum sounds is that they sounds a bit tiny and low.
We will need a big compressor to increase the volume.

There is also another trick to make a nice snare, or any other sound. Filters and layering sounds.

What i'm impressed is with the CPU usage. It reached 70% in my Quad Core. Maybe is because i used more of 30 instances at same time.

Good luck with it Supernoise

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SuperNoise - Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:08 am

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I see that your experience is VERY similar to mine. So this is the Minimoog character.

To achieve any well sounding snare I had to use EQ with crazy settings in high frequences. Additionaly I had to use fast compressor to amplify the sound. I think, these are main reasons why original percussion presets are not so nice - you have to use additional DSP chain to modify the sounds.
Layering was not necessary...

This is great experiecne in fact. Wow! I have got big lesson here! Thank you!

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dwringer - Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:22 am

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I feel the same way every month so far that I have participated in this, haha. Before I never really did much more than put together some random sounds from whatever haphazardly arranged sources I could, then one day I found all the free VSTi's out there, and then one day happened upon this site. What an invaluable experience; I'm sure a lot of people could actually even find it applicable elsewhere in life



If I may make a suggestion on the snare...

Crazy EQ settings anywhere can cause certain parts of the frequency spectrum to get phase shifted (well any EQ really) to where it may sound better, but it gains a subtle unsettling 'hollow' quality that is very hard to nail down. No amount of subsequent processing can really make it punchy again. This is why I might suggest layering, although I haven't tried to do so yet myself. That way you can put a high frequency drum on top of a low frequency one or something... you'll have to try it yourself, I'm a little Mooged out this month ;p

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adagiocm - Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:40 am

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Thanks Irion and dwringer for the tips!

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SuperNoise - Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:23 am

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Good point Drwinger. So far I didn't noticed (or maybe I don't recognise) frequency shifts. Snare sounds enough good for me. But for future it is good to know. Thanks!

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sqigls - Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:42 am

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is it just me or does this synth take forever to load?
in both Cubase and Live it takes about 20-30 seconds for EACH INSTANCE to load

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V'ger - Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:56 am

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Loads fast (instantly) here.

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adagiocm - Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:06 am

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Same here with Sonar X1.

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IrionDaRonin - Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:25 am

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It loads quick here in FL Studio.

But i know what you mean.
There are some synths which takes huge amount of time to load.

Another examples, at least here in FL Studio are.
Razor, Alchemy, Diva (just a bit), and some others.

Dunno why, but we should be patient, i guess.

Have a good day

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bzur - Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:34 am

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What's your DAW configuration? (RAM, Cpu, OS...)

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satYatunes - Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:25 pm

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What made you write such generic statement like this? Please enlighten me with some fact.

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sqigls - Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:24 am

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Win 7 64 pro
Live 8.3.1 is 32 bit.
Cubase 6.0.6 is 64 bit.

I have 8GB RAM. i7 Quad Q 720 1.6GHz

I've seriously never seen a softsynth take this long to load.

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papatomany - Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:10 am

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What's your antivirus, and is it on?

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SuperNoise - Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:11 am

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So, you must to buy SSD hard drive

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bzur - Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:29 am

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Same configuration as mine, apart the SSD hard drive... no, it can't be that slow, even with a traditional hd! Is it the only soft synth with this issue?

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Oktipus - Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:46 pm

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Google "india spammers" and/or "india seo spam" or just read this BBC article :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17813300


I've operated and hosted forums and blogs for years, on all my servers I used to block India, Pakistan and China IP's in the firewall but now my provider blocks them at the router level because of the overwhelming amount of blog comment and forum signature spamming. Actually, anywhere a visitor can input data will usually get hammered by spammers and when you trace the IP, it's almost always India if it's SEO related, China if it's counterfeit merchandise spam (they spam incessantly for Nike shoes, etc).


This comes from experience fighting spam on my internet properties, if you don't like my reasoning, just read the article mentioned above and please, let's keep this thread on topic.

Cheers

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satYatunes - Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:51 pm

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^^^Internet literacy is pretty low hence I was kinda questioning your statement then I did some reading and shocked to find out it is on top now. It's mentioned though that hijacked computers from these countries being used for spamming. Anyway, it is what it is. Having said that it's still not polite to write such comments in a forum like this.
And, no I am not trying to hijack the topic. I love OSC and the group here. So this is my last post on this topic.



I have also noticed that the project does take an unusual amount of time to load on Sonar X1. I have only around eight tracks with Minimoog V now. But once it loads it's pretty smooth. My conf is Win XP 32bit, 3 GB RAM, i5 processor.

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sqigls - Sat Jul 14, 2012 2:09 am

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Antivirus disabled, I have a hybrid drive, Momentus, it FLIES!!!!
This is the only VSTi which takes this long to load.

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SKYZONE - Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:29 am

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This is a longer track

Black hole of infinity

Host fruityloops 10

27 samples from minimoog-v

2 instances of minimoog-v VST

Some reverb - delay and limiter came al from mother host



Enjoy


Fabrizio

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z.prime - Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:55 am

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What exactly do you mean by this? Did you freeze the tracks? Something else?

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jasinski - Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:27 am

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sweet! a mac friendly contest.. starting on my track today.

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z.prime - Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:52 am

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Great to hear! Can't wait to hear what you come up with this time!

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z.prime - Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:59 am

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Quick question: are vocal filters allowed? I assume they are effectively the same as very specific EQ, and since other filters are allowed technically they would be; I'd just like to hear from our fearless leader a definitive yea or nay.

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IrionDaRonin - Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:21 pm

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Don't call him boss, or he will hit you with a stick in the head. My own experience

Have a good day

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z.prime - Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:33 pm

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There, fixed that!

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IrionDaRonin - Sat Jul 14, 2012 4:53 pm

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I was kidding man, don't worry hehe.

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z.prime - Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:27 pm

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I try to avoid stick beatings to the head at all costs, even if it means updating a post here and there. Too scared of Spock coming to my door - he can teleport, you know!

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adagiocm - Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:49 pm

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But that would be illogical, when he could just hit you on the head right here in the forum

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SKYZONE - Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:08 am

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Because of cpu overload i play for example a riff and then resampled it with fruityloops so yes at that point it is vast no more changing .
Anyway it always lead to somewere , i dont change pitch just use the sample as it is you can reversed it and that gives a other change for using that sample

Fabrizio

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z.prime - Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:47 am

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Just curious - does Fruity Loops not have a freeze function? (You must be a good player to get such results! I have to tweak to no end to be even remotely satisfied with what I've done.)

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IrionDaRonin - Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:57 am

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Well, FL Studio has a multitracking render mode, separate files one by one in a batch exportation, or also, you can render only one channel at time pressing a little floppy disc in each channel, i never use any of both. What i don't know even is if you need to reload all samples after into samplers.

Surprised about the high amount of CPU from this Minimoog. As i said, in my track, i got a 70% with about 30-40 channels. Maybe it is normal due the high number of instances, but this is the first time i got this.

Have a good day

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bzur - Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:45 am

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Oohh... and that's nothing: in Cubase I'm experiencing some horrible cpu bursts - and consequent crackles - during a tempo change! Maybe an issue steinberg's guys never fixed, it arises especially with very demanding plugs. Luckily, it disappears after rendering.

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SKYZONE - Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:10 am

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This piece ends up more classical

Song name Classical flavour ?

Host fruityloops 10

27 samples from minimoog-v

2 instances of minimoog-v VST

Usual reverb and delay also limiter came from mother host


Enjoy


Fabrizio

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nikp2000 - Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:29 pm

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Further fiddling around yields V8.

14 instances of minimoogV (free)
ableton live compression and EQ

http://soundcloud.com/nikp2000/nikp2000-v8

Nick

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z.prime - Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:26 pm

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Is it safe to assume by the lack of dissension that these glorified eq are okay? (Will quite possibly drive the direction of my track)

Related, am I missing some presets/functionality of Minimoog-V altogether? I'm hearing a lot of 'vocal' type sounds and I can't figure out how to find 'em or make 'em... suggestions?

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nikp2000 - Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:26 pm

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z-prime, along the top right there are toggles for the formant filter, as well as delay, chorus and mod matrix, but in the free version you don't have access to the controls other than turning them on or off. it was discussed earlier that there were ways to manipulate them, either through automation or metadata (that would be beyond me to explain). i lucked(?) out that the formant filter made my snare sound like the the singer (ehhh, maybe vocalist) from cannibal corpse.

nick

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z.prime - Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:33 pm

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Thanks, I completely missed what that button does!

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adagiocm - Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:56 pm

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My answer is obviously far from authoritative, but as far as I'm concerned, if the effect is doing filtering but not any pitch shifting, and if the sound is not transformed beyond recognition, it is fine.

Anyway, looks like you may not need to use an external formant filter this month after all

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IrionDaRonin - Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:12 pm

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Thas is it. Nobody needs to worry about an extreme effect always that comes built-in the synth itself.
About external formant filters, no idea if they are allowed, i never saw anyone using them. Let's wait for V'ger.

Have a good day

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adagiocm - Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:07 pm

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A wild guess: this may have something to do with the license authentication (latency of calling home perhaps?). I'm now noticing some slowdown as I load more instances of the demo version, which never happened with the free version.

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V'ger - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:03 am

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Another prize added! Thanks 3ee

3ee Sound Design : 1 sound set of choice

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V'ger - Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:17 am

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About using the formant filter in Minimoog-V that is of course Ok as it's a feature of the synth, its paramaters are available via native UI or automation or even via the synth's script files so can be edited freely.

By the way, anyone else find the built-in chorus really amazing? Or is it just in combination with the moog sound that it stands out?

Reversing a sampled part is not allowed as that would create something the synth couldn't do by itself. (ah there, finally a chance to smack someone on the head, lol)

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SuperNoise - Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:54 am

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Well, payware version of minimoog is protected with activation code which you download from Arturia. Normally you store this code on usb dongle or on your hard drive. The activation codes are normally checked durring you load your project in the DAW with 'open project.../open set... whatever'.
I don't think that Arturia requires internet connection to open an minimoog vst overwise - does it make sense to use an usb dongle?

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bumtu - Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:58 am

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Sound & chorus for me. Sound its crystal clear and this low cpu usage...! Chorus is rich and makes the sound really wide unless I don't push too much rate and depth cause it rather quickly gets too much detuned. But I will always admire chorus from Synth1 freebie especially for its warmth...

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IrionDaRonin - Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:09 pm

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Firstly, i wanted to say thanks to the new prize donators. Very grateful.
Thanks to 3ee and Stonail, the newest ones.

Secondly, i can't wait to hear with what are you going to come this month.

Thirdly, i will post my track the day 20th finally (instead of 25th).
I want to share this one as soon as possible!

Have a good day guys

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