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V'ger - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:11 pm

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Which apps or plugins you bought last year seemed a good idea at the time, but later turned out to be big regrets?

Instead of having multiple similar threads in every section of the forum here, all audio software can be listed here, synth, effect, DAW or whatever.

The products don't have be released in 2012, just bought by you that year.

For me it was FL Studio (too cumbersome to use)
ElectraX (wrongly forced to uninstall/sell by developer)
LinComp (doesn't even start)

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TristezaOrange - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:19 pm

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I REGRET NOTHING!!!!!

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jacqueslacouth - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:25 pm

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DIVA and Omnisphere, never again will I listen to the hype.

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murnau - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:27 pm

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ever heard that IL provide a great functional demo of FL? so why you bought it? pretty unfair imo.

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fedexnman - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:28 pm

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I regret DAW hopping . Buying selling trading Hosts sucks , Im gonna stick with one from now on , but on another note if something new comes out again . lol

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RunBeerRun - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:30 pm

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I use Oxiyum in Cubeass.

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leggie - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:37 pm

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I got an app on the iPad this year called sleep talker and it's destroyed my arguement with the missus how much i snore and wheese when im asleep !

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revo11 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:43 pm

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absynth, should've just bought zebra...

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V'ger - Sun Jan 20, 2013 2:51 pm

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Nothing great about it. Just a regular demo. Great would be 60 days fully functional like Reaper. Bought it as it was half price with only a few days left of the sale and was thinking to use it for collaboration. Gave it a fair good shot because of it, but had to park it. Now I can't even sell it because Image-Line (as I believe the only DAW maker?) doesn't allow me to do so.. (another reason to regret it)

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ksandvik - Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:10 pm

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Absynth is special, but if you were looking for a typical subtractive synth, it ain't that.

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Ben H - Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:16 pm

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Translator Pro.

I was hoping that since it had now reached "version 6" that it wouldn't be such a buggy piece of crap, like the old version was.

Bad news. It's still a buggy piece of crap, but it looks prettier.

I submitted a few bug reports of reproducable errors and heard back the first couple of times, then nothing. No response, no acknowledgements, no requests for more info, nothing.

I have a pile more bugs I've uncovered, but I'm not feeling motivated to bother sending them if they aren't even going to be read or worked on.

Oh well, I got it at half price. I guess I should be grateful.

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dalor - Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:32 pm

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Lexicon Total Bundle. Not for its quality but its extreme price drop.

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JJBiener - Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:35 pm

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I don't have any regrets. Quite the contrary. Some of the things I picked up cheap at the auction turned out to be far cooler than I thought when I was bidding on them. It is always good to get more than what was expected.

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revo11 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:42 pm

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who said anything about "looking for a typical subtractive synth"? It's not like zebra is all about vanilla subtractive synthesis.

Absynth is not terrible, my issue is the quality of the oscillators and effects isn't particularly inspiring. I'm not sure if it's an aliasing issue or what, but my reaction to most absynth patches is, "that's kindof a cool processing/modulation concept, but the sound itself isn't that great". With zebra, even the pure oscillators sound damn good.

It does seem to capture a certain 90s-era processing-centric idm sound, but imo everything it does, other synths can do better at this point. One could argue that zebra can't do the sample-based processing, but then alchemy is a few notches above absynth in that regard.

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liquidsound - Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:03 pm

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Sendy - Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:11 pm

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Yeah, I know, right!?

The only purchase I really regret was getting Poizone in the Image Line sale. Really didn't need it, I have so many basic subtractives and it brought nothing new to my workflow. It does have an interesting filter, though, so there is that.

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dalor - Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:13 pm

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danbroad - Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:22 pm

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Zebra. It's nice, but it didn't blow me away. Sorry, Urs. i can see how some folks would love it, but it just isn't for me

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grymmjack - Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:27 pm

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More info sir. My wife says I snore, but I don't believe her

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Shangsean - Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:10 pm

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8Dio Bazantar: Not that it sounds bad, I just don't use it very often.

Albion III - Iceni: I already own Albion I, which is very good, but Iceni just doesn't add enough to the original in my opinion. A lot of similar sounding synth patches, some okay loops and limited percussion. The orchestra part sounds good, but it I don't think it sounds that much darker than Albion I, especially the strings. Not a bad product, but I still wish I spent my $400 on something else.

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Ciberithm - Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:18 pm

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Sonar X2

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Aiynzahev - Sun Jan 20, 2013 5:46 pm

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Not Brainworx XL?

Personally I can't think of anything I bought that I regret. I regret selling LX480 but I bought the full version for a good price so no problem.

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dblock - Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:23 pm

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Has to be the Lush 101. Not that it's a bad synth but the cpu is so heavy I can't even use it with my current setup.

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AtaRaxis - Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:41 pm

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Well, I had the Mrs. just about convinced I did, in fact, need an ultranova but at the last second I opted to piss all my spare cash on an ipad , as I was feeling a bit like a cave dweller without one. Then I proceeded to buy any and every app related to music. Then I had to have an I/O Dock. I will admit to having a good thirty minutes of musical bliss with animoog. Everything else was a yawn waiting to happen. I found myself mostly using it to watch youtube video demos of real synths while I was sitting on the can.
Finally got rid of it last night. Traded a buddy for a tactical shotgun.
...Anybody need an Alesis I/O dock?

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Xenobt - Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:43 pm

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All the cool stuff I bought at no brainer or 50% off deals that I can't even run on my Mac G5! I've got a hundred gb of stuff I'll never even get to load til I get on an Intel mac!

But it's a new gear year at work, with a new Mac Pro, and before the summer sales at NI and IK, I'll have it all up and running! Now I just need a Mini for home for compatibility. Another $700 to run my $15 purchases! Sigh...

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt

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lotus2035 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:55 pm

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Cubase 7 Upgrade - Last summer I upgraded from Cubase Studio 5 to Cubase 6.5 and then up to 7 when it was released. I'm not too impressed by the new mixer so that upgrade was money I should have spent on something else.

Maximus from Imageline - Very cheap in the recent sale but I can't use any imageline stuff on my 64bit system, they just arent reliable (in Cubase at least). Impulse buy I should have skipped. If it ever comes out as a 64bit plug I'll be happy. (Same goes for Styrus and Toxic Biohazard).

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lotus2035 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:58 pm

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Well at least Omnisphere is usable for mutiple tracks in a project. I can understand someone being unhappy with DIVA because of the CPU hit but not Omnisphere. It's a workhorse and sounds better than most.

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filter303 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:02 pm

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Something that I really regret buying is Studio One v2 because I am extremely disappointed of it's high cpu usage. I expected the issue to be solved with the last big update, but I ended up being wrong. Many plugins I own need about 4-5x less cpu if I use Reaper.
I like the DAW itself but the CPU problems make it useless for me. Using studio one makes my computer look like I never updated it after my Q6600.
There is no way I am ever going to upgrade to V3 if they don't fix this. It simply does not matter to me how many new features they add if it uses CPU the way it does now.

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V0RT3X - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:04 pm

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I bought some waves universe stuff while they had some great specials happening.

As much as I liked NLS & the Kramer bundle with the tape plugin, I felt no need for them when I already had similar plugins.

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JoeCat - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:21 pm

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Bitwig

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shponglefan - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:28 pm

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I regret not taking advantage of NI's 50% off black Friday sale. Now I'll have to wait until next year

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shponglefan - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:29 pm

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I have to think that if you're not happy with those, you won't be happy with any VST synth.

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schnapsglas - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:39 pm

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This. I like the DAW, but it is missing quite a bit. Should have gone to Sonar, X2 seems quite nice.

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donato - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:45 pm

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Have you checked the S1 forums about this? I switched from Cubase 6 to S1 and am able to run about 15-20% more plugs now. Weird your CPU is actually higher???

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KevWestBeats - Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:50 pm

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Sonar X1. Well idk if regret is the right word more like disappointed. I love Sonar but hate that it doesn't work right with Reason or my audio interface.

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filter303 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:11 pm

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Maybe I should read S1 forums more often, but I have tried to find the answer for my problems from various places and I can't seem to the solution. I remember reading some other people complaining about the same thing.
If I remember it right there was none of these issues in V1.

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Echoes in the Attic - Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:15 pm

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Aalto. Great sounding synth, but I'm not cool with adding an extra 6ms latency to my entire Ableton set. Now I cant sell it. But of course both of these things I could have found out before buying so my bad.

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jacqueslacouth - Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:21 pm

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Actually, no, I absolutely love Alchemy and Sugarbytes Cyclops.....just shows, different sounds for different artists. I guess I was expecting a lot more of the other two. DIVA simply doesn't do it for me, I can see the character of the sound that others appreciate so much, however, it is simply not applicable to what I do. Omnisphere may be more puzzling considering I have heard Alchemy described as a poor mans Omnisphere. I just find it hard to make it fit into what I am doing without it feeling overwhelming, it sounds, to my ears, to big, it swamps everything and tends to be discordant with the ambient sounds I am building around.

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UltimateOutsider - Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:35 pm

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Ableton Suite - Should have just gotten Live. I've never used the Suite instruments in a single project. And now I've pretty much switched back to Cubase anyway. I like having Live around for experimentation, but Suite was a waste.

Waves Tune - Probabaly a fine product, but I got it so I'd have vocal tuning support in Ableton Live... but then I discovered that it's completely unsupported in Live (my fault for not checking the compatibility list- although that list doesn't cover everything, and leaves out some details)- and Cubase already has VariAudio.

Maschine - As much as I think it's a well-made product with a great sound library, I just never freaking use it. Just packed it up and put it in the basement last week. If I don't use it in the next year, I'll get rid of it.

Waldorf Edition - There was a big sale a few months ago, but I'm never gonna use these things.

ON THE FENCE: MIDI Quest 10 - I bought this in December after working with the demo almost daily for 2 weeks. I researched alternatives, and MIDI Quest was the only currently-produced package that supported all of my hardware synths (D-110, MKS-50/70/80/7, SY85). Unfortunately, the feature I wanted most (VST mode) was not available in the demo, so I bought the program in faith. It didn't work out. And even just as a straight editor/librarian, I run into quirks and bugs every time I use it. I really need SOMETHING to edit patches on my rack synths because going through the front panel is just torture. Haven't completely given up yet, but getting close.

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Crackbaby - Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:54 pm

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Why is it adding 6ms of latency? Seems odd for a synth

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I regret Image-Line's Groove Machine .. should've demoed it. Bought it mainly as a "revenge" at Maschine's crappy software sequencer .. but no, it didn't make me feel better
However, on the other side, I also bought Drumaxx which has turned out to be my best* purchase this year! Well worth the price of both
Other things i regret is having to sell Ace, Diva and Oxium..
Hmm.. not really a regret as i got it for free but NI's Massive Maschine edition. Used it once


*shared with Mulab (try beta of version 5 guys!!!) and mux if it was 2012 i bought it

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Saukar30 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:01 pm

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Kontakt.

I really love my sf2s, and free kontakt presets that I have accumulated for it and I wanted to use it to possibly use just 1 sampler to use for everything. For me personally... I just don't like the workflow. I just don't like the modular approach and for me its too hard to set up modulations & customize. It's a great sampler & I can see why it's number one.... but just not for me. I'm better off just using the player for 30 minutes or converting my files to sfz.

Unfortunately, I still havent found a sampler that fits for me. I would've rather received Independence but there are no 3rd party libraries & registration is a pain. Mach5 & Halion4 use dongles & are too expensive.

I think I'm better off in the free market for my samplers using my host (Orion & Reaper for simple stuff), Zampler & Shortcircuit for drums, sf2s & simple playback/manipulation, Wusikstation & Sampletank for libraries.

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Nightpolymath - Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:11 pm

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Massive was an impulse buy. No big regrets, though, but I just don't use it that much for anything.

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digitalboytn - Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:17 pm

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Well - it's a "sampler" that doesn't actually sample

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michael2 - Sun Jan 20, 2013 9:59 pm

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Chromaphone. maybe this is sacrilege, but it sounds kind of dated to me (like an old This Mortal Coil record) and uses a lot of CPU (which would be fine if i liked the sound of it more). I think it's probably a great synth for someone, but not for me. I never like the sound of physical modeling though.

Just dawned on me: we should move this thread to the marketplace and start wheeling and dealing with each other.

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SadPuppyBlues - Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:23 pm

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DIVA

I regret not getting it.

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dalor - Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:54 pm

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Not in my books. Machfive3 is superior and much more user friendly. Kontakt is rated high because it's one of the first VST samplers and has alot of library developers. My 2C.

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sin night - Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:23 am

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Lexicon MPX200: I bought it second hand, but I should have though better. It hums a lot and I hear that noise on the speakers, I really can't stand it... it doesn't end into the recordings, but I can't work with that noise in the background.
So one day I decided to modify it by putting the power transformer into an external box, but something went wrong so now the device needs to be repaired and I'll probably need help from a qualified technician (I'm a programmer...).


I could have bought a few plugins with that money instead of that device and I would have avoided a lot of problems and frustration. And I eventually ended up buying an MPX Native license; obviously there are differences, the plugin is easier to use, it integrates better in my workflow, it supports higher samplerates; the drawbacks are that it uses my daw cpu and that it doesn't have and ambience algorithm (and maybe I miss one of the pitch/detune presets, which I used sometimes).

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breakmixer - Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:30 am

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Using Audiomidi on the 21st December 2012 to buy PolyKB II Player.

They have still not delivered, and now the shop is almost empty, yet took the money.

So my worst purchase of 2012.

EDIT: THANKS XILS LAB FOR SORTING THIS ONE OUT!

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solidtrax - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:01 am

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Hype? DIVA is the best sounding synth plugin on this planet, I would kill the person who would try to steal it away from me..

Ok.. I would knot kill, but I would become very angry!!



Try making your own sounds. Why?

1) It's a lot of fun making your own sounds!
2) You can keep the cpu load from becoming to high

I have a project that contains 12 instances of LuSH and I can happily play it in realtime on my Core i5 3470.

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EnGee - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:21 am

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Nice thread

I don't regret any purchase although I feel sometimes I shouldn't purchased Morphine as I didn't need it because I have Harmor and NI Razor.

I don't think I'll use it a lot as it's a time consuming to get a good sound from it but for $45 it is pretty good for learning and sound design

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Burillo - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:28 am

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i don't regret any purchases, i regret not having enough patience to wait for sales

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Harry_HH - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:30 am

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5 different category of regrets:

1. Plugin ain't good
2. Plugin is OK but you can't use it
3. Plugin is OK but now you can get it much cheaper
4. Plugin was OK but now you notice there are better alternatives in the market
5. Plugin is OK, basicly you can use it but it doesn't seem to fit anywhere

All kind of mix of these 5 categories. One specical case (but not very seldom)
is where you first have great expectations, you buy this expensive plugin, then you get dissapointed and regret, but during a longer time you learn how to use the plugin and you enjoy it. H.

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gamecat666 - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:46 am

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i got maschine and Komplete 8 this year

i dont regret the purchases, but i do regret the fact that i havent found enough time to use them to their full potential

does anyone sell extra hours in the day?

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breakmixer - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:48 am

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ford442 - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:50 am

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Synth Squad was like more than $200 when i bought it - haven't used it hardly at all... its sound is good - i guess that i don't like its interface or high CPU usage.. Diva just comes to my mind faster or ACE for lightweight analog..

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Nielzie - Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:51 am

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MAGMA, because I bought it with the promise/knowledge it was getting some cool updates (like loading external VST's) very soon, and they will indeed come very soon, but all of a sudden they will require i-Lok in order to use

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philterino - Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:56 am

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Omnisphere and Stylus RMX... I bought Trillian too all in one bundle and its the only one i really use.

I like all the sounds in stylus but it would be better off if it was just a big sample pack. The interface just gets in the way of my workflow.

Omnisphere sounds amazing when you browse through all the patches but i find it difficult to use them in anything. Again the interface could have a better flow.

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solidtrax - Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:18 am

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If I look at our latest projects, Strobe (from Synth Squad) is the most used synth plugin together with DIVA and LuSH-101. All these synth plugins sound amazing and really compliment each other perfectly! No regrets at all buying these!!

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jdoo - Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:35 am

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Arturia V-Collection 3. In 2012, I went from the MiniMoog V, to adding the 61 Key + Laboratory ( still have, and use the keyboard which is great IMO), to picking up the entire V-Collection 3 during a sale. The software in this collection that intrigued me the most, would crash Logic Pro fairly regular. Unable to get Arturia support for the issue - I sold all the software synths and moved on. Ultimately, I switched software plugin-ins (beyond Logic's synths) to u-he products. Lesson learned. . . support can be critical.

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Numanoid - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:37 am

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Regrets, I've had a few
But then again, too few to mention
I did what I had to do and saw it through without exemption
I planned each charted course, each careful step along the byway
And more, much more than this, I did it my way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD0eb0tDjIk

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Aural Chaos - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:51 am

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This Plugin .
Everyone here always says how great it is, so I finally broke down and bought after all these years.
To be honest I can't even hear if it is doing anything.
Plus, it went on sale right after I paid my hard earned!

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SirkusPi - Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:26 am

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MVocoder if anything, because I can't seem to get it to sound good. But it was quite cheap when I got it, and I strongly suspect my inability to get good results is substantially my own fault, so I'm really not too upset. Still, I've played around with the demo for Waldorf's Lector vocoder, and I get great results with that; unfortunately, it's substantially more expensive, but I wish I'd saved up my MVocoder money to put towards buying Lector one day instead.

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menthol - Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:38 am

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Speaking of AudioMIDI, I just realized I have't received an email newsletter from them in ages. I thought maybe they lost my info, but I'm still registered on their site. Has anyone else been getting these?

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audientronic - Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:47 am

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Seems they are bankrupt.

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audientronic - Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:17 am

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I don't so much regret what I bought (maybe a couple of unnecessary no-brainers, but hey, they were cheap!)...

I regret how much I spent.

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Crackbaby - Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:39 am

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im kind of puzzled what "no-brainer" actually implies ...
i picture zombies in a music store buying whatever the clerk is handing to them

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DHR53 - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:00 am

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Hmmm... I'm sure this is not going to go over too good but, I have downloaded the Diva demo twice and I can't see why I should have this AND Zebra? Zebra does it all and uses very little cpu as well. I just don't hear the "analogness" in Diva. I do have mild Tinnitis though... Ha!

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glokraw - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:10 am

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I've got Tineertus, still not sure if I'd want to trade

The little I have used the Diva demo, convinces me that in capable hands,
the magic will appear. Just don't bury jewels in the mix, or it's a waste of money.

I regret not pouncing on some hardware synth bargains last year,
but I got my wife a QS8 for Valentines...only 22 more shopping days, guys!
But shes looking suspiciously
at my side of the bed being a bit higher than hers.
Hope she doesn't look under the mattress, and ruin the surprise
Pretty heavy to be hiding it in the attic

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Echoes in the Attic - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:18 am

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Yes it's quite odd indeed. It has 256 sample delay. so at 44.1, that means 6 ms additional latency in addition to your regular audio and plug-in buffer. Most plug-in instruments have no extra latency besides the plug-in buffer. The only other two I've come across (over many many instruments!) that do add latency are Camel Alchemy and Addictive Keys (both 64 samples = 1.5ms). 1.5 ms is ok. But 6? That's a lot to add to a set for one plug-in.

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bmrzycki - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:19 am

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This is true. Many of the presets are washed in Reverb and delay to showcase the synth. However, the pure synthesis engine of Omni is quite good and a lot of the presets can be tamed by removing or lowering the amount of FX in the chain.

The good news is both Diva and Omnisphere seem to have good resale value in the market place. Omni is a bit more work to get transferred but if you're serious about the regret you should be able to unload them both for most of the money you paid for them.

(And I would never call Alchemy a poor-man's anything. It's an amazing synth.)

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robotmonkey - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:41 am

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Are you using x32 bit host? This is supposed to be a x64 plugin.

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lionscub68 - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:43 am

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Korg microSampler.
It has since been sold.
Sure it's not a plugin, but still.
Starting to feel that way about the Wavedrum Mini, too.

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4lb Kitty - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:53 am

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Not a thing.

I had some regrets from 2011 purchases, but I made sure this year that everything I bought was something that I thoroughly investigated.

I also struck some pretty good deals in sales this year. All the better!

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Panphobia - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:53 am

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Nothing!!!!!!

This was the year of " I can't afford crap right now," but I still got some really good sale prices. For example the penultimate version of wusik station for almost free (idgac if the sample library is MEH, I NEED it!) and some stunning kontakt instruments by Hollow Sun and Synth Magic for less than cup of coffee. I don't know why they do that, but I will gladly partake.

What did I regret NOT buying? The sale on Rhino's presets, $25 for everything. I was in the middle of moving long distance, and was unable to jump on the sale before it ended.

Here's to another year of hoarding every free, expensive, and everything in between vst that I can get my hand on!

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classic - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:57 am

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Regrets.

Well, Rapture and Karma FX Modular.
They sound.................horrible, both.
Just try to use the Karma FX big EQ for some material.
I should have kept all that money and by Dune.................shit:)

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dblock - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:57 am

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Try making your own sounds. Why?

1) It's a lot of fun making your own sounds!
2) You can keep the cpu load from becoming to high

I have a project that contains 12 instances of LuSH and I can happily play it in realtime on my Core i5 3470.[/quote]
I don't have an i5. I have a quad core so what works for you is great. Just not for me.
As far as making my own sounds for fun, I write cues for placement and I need to write alot of them so having fun making sounds is not really my interest. I just compose with the thousands of sounds I already have. Nothing against anybody who designs their own sounds, just one size doesn't fit all. Depends on what you're goals and interest are.
I'll use Lush eventually when I upgrade my computer. Just didn't realize it would be such a drain on the setup I have now. I'm not sorry I bought Lush so much as I'm sorry I bought it when I did.

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budweiser - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:05 am

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RC tube.
Well to be honest i'm still laughing about this plug in so it's worth the money...

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Crackbaby - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:09 am

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What didn't you like about RC tube? I remember reading about it but then it went silent

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budweiser - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:21 am

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Well... you can achieve the same effect by simply having an empty slot, and it's waaaaaay cheaper, so nothing, except the price !

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andow - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:26 am

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NI Soul Treasures

I haven't used it in a single track....

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Astralp - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:44 am

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Ditto, complete waste of money and especially time... ESC is far superior,it doesn't support as many formats unfortunately but at least it does what it claims and doesn't crash every 2 minutes. Yep, I still have anger issues over this one, I've even uninstalled it to stop myself from giving it one more try...

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lotus2035 - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:48 am

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I forgot to mention Synth Squad. Very hyped synths which I thought sounded just average and the included presets are uninspiring. They're also very buggy on my system and have caused annoying blasts of loud noise in Cubase which instantly put them on my blacklist. No doubt I'll be selling them on.

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Numanoid - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:03 am

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I also felt that I had made a mistake buying SS, but got a very good price on that during the sale. So can't complain about that.

Have lag/glitch problems in FL Studio, but the plugins behave much better in Sonar, so I use that DAW for them.

I feel SS is a "grower", especially Fusor I see myself coming back to, so in the words of Midge Ure, I got no regrets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZME5Q11wig

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Daimonicon - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:08 am

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TC Major1. I never use it. Oh well I will sell it next time I buy another guitar or something else.

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JoeCat - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:16 am

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I bought SynthSquad during the sale and don't regret it, but I can see where someone more reliant on presets would be somewhat disappointed. FXpansion took some flack also for their Tremor presets. I think there's a tendency towards the "big and dirty". But under the hood I think it's all quality stuff.

I wish they'd update SS with their new, "clean" UI look - especially for Cypher; it would go a long way towards making it easier to see what's going on.

I regret selling my Korg Electribe ER-1 Mkii.

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toitoi - Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:18 pm

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Like Midge Ure a lot but can't listen to his version of this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeUH33qF1x0

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spikey - Mon Jan 21, 2013 2:01 pm

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Arturia Software...


Not because of their dongle per-say, but because of them blaming the dongle software people for them not being able to reset Arturia user authorizations even AFTER you proved to them you were a registered user....

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MFXxx - Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:00 pm

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Only a few in the list :

Ableton Live - so used to Cubase cant get my head around it and spend the time to use it. C7 is so fluid for me.
Eventide Omnipressor
Lexicon LXP
QuNeo
Novation ZeRO SLMkII

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BDeep - Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:07 pm

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I can honestly say none, except for NF PulseTec, which I bought on a nobrainer deal, so I'm not that concerned about that. But I did take it out of my plugin folder. Why? Well, I can get the desired results quicker with other EQ's - it just doesn't do that much for me.

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lingyai - Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:12 pm

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MeldaProduction's MNotepad. I swear I can't hear any difference at all!

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EvilDragon - Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:15 pm

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You do know that each (non-sample) oscillator in Absynth has an oversampling toggle? It's a little staircase button in top left corner of each oscillator.




It is superior only in SOME aspects, but certainly not all of them. Kontakt is still the king with its DFD performance since it allows you to set MUCH smaller DFD buffers than MF3 (down to 6 KB, which is awesome if you have your libraries on an SSD), and it also supports multicore processing, whereas MF3 doesn't. Also, Kontakt simply works better and more optimized w.r.t CPU and RAM usage, especially for very big instruments (I think the maximum limit of groups you could have per MF3 instance is around 1800, this is nothing for some Kontakt libraries which use this in a SINGLE PATCH).

Then again, MF3 has better effects, slicker interface, synth engine, so it's really apples and oranges in the end. MF3 does not replace Kontakt, or vice versa. It's a good addition, but some things are still done much better by Kontakt, and this will very likely continue to be the trend.



My regret of 2012: Magix Independence. I still don't have it registered because their activation scheme purely blows!

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shponglefan - Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:32 pm

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Agreed. I bought those last year during their sale didn't use it for months because i couldn't get past how awful the presets were. But when I finally started tweaking it from scratch I realized what an awesome set of synths those are.

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VitaminD - Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:47 pm

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Not sure if I bought it last year or late 2011.. but Zeta+ v2 was a big disappointment for me. I wasn't a huge fan of the original's slushy filters.

But Cakewalk seemed to have taken it and sharpened the sound.. now it sounds brittle to me... harsh..

Makes wonderful bellish tones though.. I'm sure I'll find a use for it eventually.. so not really a regret. More of a mild disappointment it wasn't more than it was.. esp after all of the cakewalk hype leading to it's release.

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digitalboytn - Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:08 pm

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Mmmmm...Rapture sounds horrible ?

Are you ears OK ?



Another great sounding synth and really close to hardware in my books...

Harsh sounding filters ?

Well there are a few low pass filters there (12,24 and 36dB) and you can chain them together if you really want to slug the sound

I think that Z3TA+ 2 is a fantastic synth and the mechanics at Cakewalk really did a great job improving on the original...

Z3TA+ and Rapture are two of my favourite soft synths...

No regrets at all

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V'ger - Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:23 pm

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Not a regret per se as it sounds good and was at a decent price even though it uses ridiculous CPU, I was just pissed they came out with a paid update 3 days after the sale (which immediately devalued my product and was also such a blatant and cheap sales trick) and also that it took 3 days to install. It all seems to have put me off PA plugins altogether now, so it's PA who should regret this the most since I buy quite a lot of plugins.

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icantdub - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:01 pm

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NI Vintage organs, one of the models is just completely unusable, not that the rest of the models don't sound good but I could've gotten VB3 which sounds a lot better for 24€ less.

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Mister Natural - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:53 pm

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looking thru my VST folder to recall what I actually bought last year :

Ozone 5 - love it for how it simplifys the "mastering" step of my mixes
Rapture - this synth has ten thousand layers, ask me again in two years when I've actually scratched the surface of what this thing can really do
CamelPhat - don't think it's nearly the tool that CSpace is but very servicable efx for what it is

I guess the one I'm least crazy about is GEN16 DV Zildjian cymbals from fxpansion. It really does sounds fantastic but the interface / pattern machine is beyond stupid-clunky. If I really want to use it properly; I need to also buy BFD for another $200 & learn to sequence that with the cymbals plugged into it. I already have Geist and uTonic for drums . . .

peace

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awol9000 - Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:07 pm

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I regret buying Z3TA+ 2

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~Pd~ - Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:19 pm

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They released SS before anyone had completely figured out what Cypher could do and how to do it. (hm, then again will anyone ever completely figure it out? Dunno) The Himalaya expansions are terrific. Everyone with SS should get at least one. I think I'll also pick up Cypherdelics while the expansions are 50% off. But yeah, a lot of the factory library is not super exciting. FXpansion ought to bundle a limited sampler of the expansion sets with the factory library.

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VitaminD - Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:26 pm

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I'm glad you enjoy your purchase.

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