KVR :: Hardware (Instruments and Effects) » KORG to re-release the MS-20! [View Original Topic]
There are 335 posts in this topic. Page: 1 2 3 4
eXode - Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:34 am
The news has just came in from winter NAMM 2013. Korg are officially reissuing in the MS-20 in a smaller, more compact size. It will be using mini-jacks (1/8″ instead of 1/4″) and have USB-MIDI and is of course fully analogue.
Price is a very reasonable €600 and will be shipping in late february 2013.
Let's hope it sounds as good as the original!
Source: Waveformz.com
SLiC - Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:40 am
And we have the new moog little phatty for 999USD (750 Euro?)
Analog and controler keyboards, is the only route left for hardware manufacturers in IMHO, samplers and digital synths are pretty much just computers....
Still looking for that first cheap analog poly and more analog 'groove boxes' (like analog4) to follow....
Exciting times
thecontrolcentre - Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:53 am
Woohoo
Urs - Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:55 am
Where can I order?
Kriminal - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:05 am
Hope it hasnt got mini keys
ZenPunkHippy - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:09 am
... and the bottom just fell out of the used MS-20 market on eBay
Of course, this won't sound anything like the original.
*cough*
thecontrolcentre - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:12 am
SLiC wrote:
And we have the new moog little phatty for 999USD (750 Euro?)
Even more Woohoo ...
and just when I thought I had all the hardware I need.
electro - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:25 am
Looks like softsynths are generating fresh interest in hardware.
penguinfromdeep - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:29 am
Whoa, cool! I own ms-10 myself, I hope I can connect this to my ms-10 via cv etc .. Like is possible with the old ms-20
Kriminal - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:32 am
SLiC wrote:
And we have the new moog little phatty for 999USD (750 Euro?)
Bit pricey considering it doesnt save/load preset (thats what i heard anyway)
Howard - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:36 am
Kriminal wrote:
SLiC wrote:
And we have the new moog little phatty for 999USD (750 Euro?)
Bit pricey considering it doesnt save/load preset (thats what i heard anyway)Kriminal - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:39 am
Howard wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
SLiC wrote:
And we have the new moog little phatty for 999USD (750 Euro?)
Bit pricey considering it doesnt save/load preset (thats what i heard anyway)Wow, thats poor.
plastic - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:45 am
Shame it has mini keys. I don't know how anyone can seriously use them.
EvilDragon - Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:48 am
Kriminal wrote:
Howard wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
SLiC wrote:
And we have the new moog little phatty for 999USD (750 Euro?)
Bit pricey considering it doesnt save/load preset (thats what i heard anyway)Wow, thats poor.
That's Moog.
plastic wrote:
Shame it has mini keys. I don't know how anyone can seriously use them.
There's always external MIDI in.
ENV1 - Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:09 am
Nice.
Considering they had already sold the reissued filter with success, tacking on the rest and reissuing the entire unit might very well prove a smart move.
Pretty sure a lot of folks will go for it, although the new units will probably sound quite different (cleaner, probably) considering the originals were built on late 70s tech.
Should still be good though.
(Despite the fact that we had just established that hardware blows.)
WOK - Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:20 am
eXode wrote:
That's just a rumor someone from Spain or Argentina spread in the web. Picture is showing this.
Ingonator - Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:23 am
WOK wrote:
eXode wrote:
That's just a rumor someone from Spain or Argentina spread in the web. Picture is showing this.
I thought the same...
This one looks even more interesting:
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2012/12/25/the-king-korg-analog-synthesizer-namm-leak-or-photoshop/
eXode - Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:52 am
WOK wrote:
eXode wrote:
That's just a rumor someone from Spain or Argentina spread in the web. Picture is showing this.
This picture is different from that one if you look closely. This new version have the power/volume led to the bottom left of the volume knob and the phones output is black. Also there are four screws on each panel corner
On the USB controller that you point to the power LED is above the volume knob and the phones output is the same color as the other jacks. Finally those four screws on the panel corners are not there.
Compare with the original Legacy controller below:
codec_spurt - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:03 am
Remember when I had an MS-10 to play with for a while.
Plugging in my guitar and the microphone, wondering why I wasn't getting
Dr.Who Dalek sounds back out.
I seem to remember it was rather good at bass sounds, and of course the whistling whooshes...
But what I really miss is my Jen SX-1000 - a serious Dub machine. Had to put it through a few fx to make it come alive, but seriously thick, grainy luscious pads and quite cutting, fat, warm bass/leads - a very under-rated synth.
The MS-10 was just a bugger to program, but then again I didn't know what an oscillator was (for).
Really happy with my complete Legacy collection. No room for more hardware anyway. The MS-10 is one of the few synths that I can comment on as whether the software emulation is as good as the hardware, but I would say so. Even if it was an MS-10 I would be comparing.
Do I remember correctly that some bod was saying that the MS-10 actually had a slightly different filter compared to the MS-20, and that it would lend itself to even 'raspier' sounds than its big brother/sister?
Anyway, what I really really want is any synth in the Legacy collection to be loadable into the Legacy Cell, preferably all synths at once, with maybe even a few instances of each stackable on top.
Is that too much to ask?
Oh and how about changing the f******* GUI size so the synths that made me half-blind in the first place would be semi-legible?
Now that would be something to get excited about.
Echoes in the Attic - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:11 am
I thought this was about re-issuing the MS-20 VST with a reasonable GUI finally.
codec_spurt - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:54 am
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
I thought this was about re-issuing the MS-20 VST with a reasonable GUI finally.
Um..
I think you have a couple of options with that:
A/ Wait until Image-Line release Sytrus with a GUI that does not need a pair of binoculars to read.
B/ Wait until Hell freezes over.
Either of those are more likely to happen before you get your not unreasonable wish.
And to think they can code those hardware beasts into software. No one would have believed it possible only a few years ago.
And now they can't add a few more pixels to the soup.
Shocking.
Mushy Mushy - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:56 am
Still keeping my original one. Prices will plummet in the short term, but there's nothing like owning the original
V0RT3X - Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:59 am
Oh my dreams have been answered!
I hope it honestly sounds as good as the original!
This is going to be a f**king no brainer for me.
Kriminal - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:21 am
eXode wrote:
NAMM doesnt start till the 24th....so this isnt official news is it....
Echoes in the Attic - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:32 am
codec_spurt wrote:
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
I thought this was about re-issuing the MS-20 VST with a reasonable GUI finally.
Um..
I think you have a couple of options with that:
A/ Wait until Image-Line release Sytrus with a GUI that does not need a pair of binoculars to read.
B/ Wait until Hell freezes over.
Either of those are more likely to happen before you get your not unreasonable wish.
And to think they can code those hardware beasts into software. No one would have believed it possible only a few years ago.
And now they can't add a few more pixels to the soup.
Shocking.
Well put!
However since they are updating their legacy plug-ins to 64bit (which they previously said they weren't doing), we can at least hope that they will dig deep and find the means to expand the edit window so that you don't have to scroll around in a window 1/8th the size of the average screen real estate.
codec_spurt - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:45 am
Yeah, even at the time it came out it was a bit of a 'wtf?'.
Just goes to show they iz real programmerz innitz?
=====
KORG LABZ
======
Japanese Genius fellows:
Ah. So. Zey Want Ze UBER Gui?
(They had German parentz)
Ah ah. Eh eh.
==========
KORG LABZ
===========
Really, all bad jokes aside.
I think we should just be thankful the software exists.
I mean. It is a monument to mans achievement. First he invented the wheel.
Then he abstracted the meaning of the wheel. And then encapsulated that into further technology. (Ahem)
We've done the difficult bit. Let's just stop here. Why let a few half-blind bastards inconvenience us?
You might not be half-blind now, but believe me, you will be if you stare at these guis as much as I or Echoes in the Attic have.
It's ok. I know they won't do it. I don't use the plugins any more. I can't see them. I got a big monitor with the lowest resolution I could. Still don't help. Developers are inconsiderate bastards. I guess a lot of people use very low resolution monitors and think that moving to a high-resolution one will make guis bigger. I await their rude awakening. eh eh...
Sequent - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:49 am
V0RT3X wrote:
Oh my dreams have been answered!
I hope it honestly sounds as good as the original!
This is going to be a f**king no brainer for me.
I hope it honestly sounds as good as the original!
This is going to be a f**king no brainer for me.
This could go either way... either it's true or just a rumor. If it's true, I also will be very tempted to get it. If it's true it might wind up being the "hot" item of the season... so good luck getting one initially!
I'm thinking it 'might' be true.
The way I see it... they're probably repurposing the tech from two existing products... the Monotron meets the Legacy controller. If you read the blurb about the Monotron it's described as having the filter from the MS-10 and MS-20, etc. So considering that some of the development work would have already been more or less done (e.g. designing the circuits tooling the original ideas for today's manufacturing processes), and then adding in the ongoing popularity of the originals, I can see someone having the idea to put those two building blocks together and creating a reissue.
So, the question then becomes how DOES a Monotron sound? How does the sound compare to a vintage MS-10/MS-20?
I figure it might be something akin to a Matrix 1000 vs. an Expander, etc. I, for one wouldn't mind a Matrix 1000... even though it can't hold a candle to an Expander. But that's an entirely different discussion.
Suffice it to say if the rumor is true... I guess we'll find out soon! If the rumor is true, it's most likely going to be a no brainer for me as well.
codec_spurt - Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:55 am
I love Korg stuff btw. I just bought a Kaoss Pad Quad.
And I'm just working out which version of the Monotron I need to compliment it.
vurt - Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:02 pm
codec_spurt wrote:
I love Korg stuff btw. I just bought a Kaoss Pad Quad.
And I'm just working out which version of the Monotron I need to compliment it.
And I'm just working out which version of the Monotron I need to compliment it.
all3 are worthwhile
bit fiddly to play the kb on them yes, but at the price definite no brainers!
id say the duo or delay are the best two, the delay is beautiful!!
codec_spurt - Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:18 pm
Goodo!
All I need is some leads to connect them.
I got my mint Akai MG614 to set up too...
Aiynzahev - Mon Jan 21, 2013 8:06 pm
So many people wanted this. What great news though, we have analog synths coming out of our ears now and fantastic software synths and fantastic software processing. We are luckiest electronic music producers I think, nobodies ever had so much!
toitoi - Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:37 am
YEEEISSSSSS!
Cyforce - Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:52 am
Great news, hopefully "USB" means, that also a editor software will be available for it
stillshaded - Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:58 am
toitoi wrote:
YEEEISSSSSS!
errr
what's it say??
ZenPunkHippy - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:01 am
According to a user on Gearslutz something like this:
Quote:
Specs:
- fully analogue
- 15 % smaller than the original (but larger than the Legacy-Edition-controller)
- MIDI in + USB MIDI
- specially designed keyboard (woohoo!)
- mainboard almost identical to original MS-20 mainboard (Real patchbay then?)
- no information about filter-variant yet (presumably modified Korg35-Chip)
- project lead by the developers of the original MS-20
- comes with original user manual and patch sheets
- fully analogue
- 15 % smaller than the original (but larger than the Legacy-Edition-controller)
- MIDI in + USB MIDI
- specially designed keyboard (woohoo!)
- mainboard almost identical to original MS-20 mainboard (Real patchbay then?)
- no information about filter-variant yet (presumably modified Korg35-Chip)
- project lead by the developers of the original MS-20
- comes with original user manual and patch sheets
Kriminal - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:10 am
Cant wait to see how many 'Diva vs Real MS20' threads pop up when this is released
Kriminal - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:11 am
Double post
vurt - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:13 am
wonder if it will have cv out?
could do with a kb with cv out, but dont want a minibrute before anyone suggests it.
ZenPunkHippy - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:18 am
vurt wrote:
wonder if it will have cv out?
could do with a kb with cv out, but dont want a minibrute before anyone suggests it.
could do with a kb with cv out, but dont want a minibrute before anyone suggests it.
Have you considered the Minibrute?
ENV1 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:50 am
Heres a rough translation.
(Quickly done, could be better, but it should be good enough.)
Quote:
KORG are celebrating their 50th anniversary this year, the MS-20 is turning 35. What better time to pay tribute to this culty synth? In deed KORG will present us a 'real' fully analog MS-20 as we know it and love it at the NAMM 2013. The so-called 'Mini-MS-20' is about 15% smaller than the original and equipped with both MIDI-In and USB-MIDI-Port. Contrary to some assumptions, the new units will not be based on surplus Legacy-Controller chassis, (which were about 20% smaller), but chassis specially built for this purpose including specially developed keyboards. The main circuit board as well as the components used for the actual circuitry are largely identical to the original. Which filter-variant they will ultimately use is still unknown, however, one can assume that it will be a slightly altered version of the KORG35 chip as used in the Monotron.
By the way, the project was lead by the same developers that created the original MS-20. Consequently the new models will come with the original manuals including the patch sheets. One does not have to be clairvoyant to prophesy the Mini-MS-20 a golden future. With a street price of roughly 600 Euro it will find a lot of friends and it should make everyone happy who could not realize their dream of a 'real' MS-20 because of the exorbitant used market prices.
Acrobat - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:52 am
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
toitoi - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:13 am
MS-50 would be good for their 50th anniversary.
Mushy Mushy - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:33 am
Acrobat wrote:
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
Whens the last time you checked?
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
Paid £1200 for my mint one 3yrs ago!
ChiTown24 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:35 am
EXCELLENT NEWS
Acrobat wrote:
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
where are you finding them for that price ? I'll take two.
they average 1,200 euros on ebay.
budweiser - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:43 am
Acrobat wrote:
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
1500 here in france, that's crazy !
Ingonator - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:48 am
Nice to see this seems to be real so those are great news.
Ingo
Acrobat - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:55 am
budweiser wrote:
Acrobat wrote:
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
1500 here in france, that's crazy !
sorry for misunderstandings, I meant the MS-10, not the 20.
Isn't the 10 they are reproducing now?
You pay an MS-20 in italy between 800-1500 euros.
I think it is interesting to compare the new one with the original, anyway.
himalaya - Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:02 pm
budweiser wrote:
Acrobat wrote:
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
1500 here in france, that's crazy !
There's one priced at £1345 on eBay UK.
zlatan - Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:23 pm
Acrobat wrote:
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
That's what people thought when the Moog Voyager came out.
The Model D is now worth even more than pre Voyager.
This is going to be some kind of a Rev 3 and the differences probably will be as big as MS20 Rev 1 vs Rev 2.
For many people those are different enough to pay a higher price for the Rev1.
I personally don't like the Rev 2 at all, but LOVE the Rev 1.
Very curious to see what they come up with though
Mushy Mushy - Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:30 pm
zlatan wrote:
Acrobat wrote:
that will probably help lowering the price of real ones
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
MS are still sold around 500-900 euros
That's what people thought when the Moog Voyager came out.
The Model D is now worth even more than pre Voyager.
This is going to be some kind of a Rev 3 and the differences probably will be as big as MS20 Rev 1 vs Rev 2.
For many people those are different enough to pay a higher price for the Rev1.
I personally don't like the Rev 2 at all, but LOVE the Rev 1.
Very curious to see what they come up with though
Wanna check mine.
himalaya - Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:35 pm
The Voyager was never intended as a replica of the Model D. This new MS20 isn't a true replica either but it's much closer to the original MS20 than the Voyager is to the Minimoog Model D.
This new MS20 may sound different to the original MS20, who knows, but I'm quietly hoping that it will nail that sound and put stop to the ridiculous prices on eBay at least for this golden oldie.
These are extremely good times for analog synth fans: the new MS20, Sub Phatty, Oberheim SEM, Dominion X, Lipzieg-S, Telemark, Minibrute, Vermona Perfourmer/Monolancet, Dark Energy, Boomstars (as yet to come), the DSI series. Pheew! There is no reason to spend ridiculous amounts of money on ebay ripoff sales with this lot around!
natqueencole - Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:39 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote:
How can one tell which is which just by looking at it?
Wanna check mine.
Wanna check mine.
Does yours have a screw above the drawing of the VCA? Supposedly if you have a screw you have a rev 2. If you don't, you have a rev 1.
However, my understanding is that if it ever had the filter replaced by a tech you may have either depending on what part they had at the time. That's where it gets tricky.
You can open it up and look to be sure.
Mushy Mushy - Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:51 pm
natqueencole wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote:
How can one tell which is which just by looking at it?
Wanna check mine.
Wanna check mine.
Does yours have a screw above the drawing of the VCA? Supposedly if you have a screw you have a rev 2. If you don't, you have a rev 1.
However, my understanding is that if it ever had the filter replaced by a tech you may have either depending on what part they had at the time. That's where it gets tricky.
You can open it up and look to be sure.
Unless, as you say, it's been replaced....
eXode - Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:55 pm
Don't know if this was posted already:
http://www.korg.de/produkte/synthesizer/ms20mini-produktinfo/ms20mini-produktinfo-1.html
SLiC - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:02 pm
If it is 86% scale, does that mean full size keys...
Bosqoue! - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:06 pm
Guess who bought a used MS20 off ebay just 2 days before the rumour first appeared on synthopia.com? whoops....
zlatan - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:11 pm
himalaya wrote:
The Voyager was never intended as a replica of the Model D. This new MS20 isn't a true replica either but it's much closer to the original MS20 than the Voyager is to the Minimoog Model D.
This new MS20 may sound different to the original MS20, who knows, but I'm quietly hoping that it will nail that sound and put stop to the ridiculous prices on eBay at least for this golden oldie.
This new MS20 may sound different to the original MS20, who knows, but I'm quietly hoping that it will nail that sound and put stop to the ridiculous prices on eBay at least for this golden oldie.
The Voyager is an updated version of the original Minimoog (model D) ...hence the name Minimoog Voyager.
And I think the vintage MS20 prices will continue to go up once people realize that they're going to sound/look very different.
This happened not only with Voyager , but also with Telefunken microphones , Neve Pre amps , Urei Compressors etc..
zlatan - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:27 pm
Mushy Mushy wrote:
Mushy Mushy wrote:
How can one tell which is which just by looking at it?
Wanna check mine.
Wanna check mine.
Unless, as you say, it's been replaced....
I rarely heard of filters being replaced , so 99% sure you have a Rev 1
It's easy to hear though
himalaya - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:30 pm
zlatan wrote:
himalaya wrote:
The Voyager was never intended as a replica of the Model D. This new MS20 isn't a true replica either but it's much closer to the original MS20 than the Voyager is to the Minimoog Model D.
This new MS20 may sound different to the original MS20, who knows, but I'm quietly hoping that it will nail that sound and put stop to the ridiculous prices on eBay at least for this golden oldie.
This new MS20 may sound different to the original MS20, who knows, but I'm quietly hoping that it will nail that sound and put stop to the ridiculous prices on eBay at least for this golden oldie.
The Voyager is an updated version of the original Minimoog (model D) ...hence the name Minimoog Voyager.
Yes, sure, it's updated, we all know that, but that update took Voyager into a new sonic territory. It's a new synth, new design, new features. No wonder there are differences in sound (of which you talk about and which people want to taste by getting the Model D). But this MS20 is much closer to the original MS20 spec (at least from the initial unofficial info). It's almost a replica.
Are you by any chance one of those selling those sub-£1300 MS20s on eBay?
ChiTown24 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:30 pm
at this moment i don't think the bottom is going to fall out of the used ms20 market. right now the average {for cheaper exchanges, often auctions} on ebay is about 1,200. i think that could go down to 1,000 relatively soon. assuming this new model is going to replicate either the rev 1 or rev 2 filter, i guess the corresponding original will take a bigger hit in used value. i've been eyeing used ms20's for ages, and @ 600 euro i'm definitely going to take the "rev3" route before ever committing to spending ~1,200 on an original - as of this announcement {i came close so many times}. especially considering how much focus has been put in to keeping things "original" in this revision, original design team etc, it's going to be a no-brainer @ 600.
the modern connectivity is just the icing on the cake
i can't wait!
himalaya - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:40 pm
ChiTown24 wrote:
and @ 600 euro i'm definitely going to take the "rev3" route before ever committing to spending ~1,200 on an original
This is exactly what I meant.
Besides, is any likely difference in sound be worth that extra £600-£700? For this amount one could get another brand new analog synth and have a much wider palette than when buying only the original MS20!
Well done Korg, I say (we all do, actually
) Kriminal - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:48 pm
himalaya wrote:
ChiTown24 wrote:
and @ 600 euro i'm definitely going to take the "rev3" route before ever committing to spending ~1,200 on an original
This is exactly what I meant.
Besides, is any likely difference in sound be worth that extra £600-£700?
Plus additional costs of maintaining a vintage synth
Sequent - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:50 pm
himalaya wrote:
ChiTown24 wrote:
and @ 600 euro i'm definitely going to take the "rev3" route before ever committing to spending ~1,200 on an original
This is exactly what I meant.
Besides, is any likely difference in sound be worth that extra £600-£700? For this amount one could get another brand new analog synth and have a much wider palette than when buying only the original MS20!
Well done Korg, I say (we all do, actually
)"So say we all."
Sequent - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:50 pm
Kriminal wrote:
himalaya wrote:
ChiTown24 wrote:
and @ 600 euro i'm definitely going to take the "rev3" route before ever committing to spending ~1,200 on an original
This is exactly what I meant.
Besides, is any likely difference in sound be worth that extra £600-£700?
Plus additional costs of maintaining a vintage synth
Definitely agreed.
Sequent - Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:51 pm
eXode wrote:
Don't know if this was posted already:
http://www.korg.de/produkte/synthesizer/ms20mini-produktinfo/ms20mini-produktinfo-1.html
http://www.korg.de/produkte/synthesizer/ms20mini-produktinfo/ms20mini-produktinfo-1.html
This to me says that it's real and no longer just a rumor. Hooray!
ENV1 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:01 pm
Good news: According to KORG the mini will have the older Rev1 filter.
That ought to make the fans happy.
EvilDragon - Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:13 pm
THIS is exactly why Korg is more awesome than Roland and Yamaha together.
ChiTown24 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:16 pm
RE: Rev 1 filter & KORG in general;; f**k YA!
ENV1 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:25 pm
They also state that the devs did everything they could to ensure that the mini sounds exactly like a brandnew original Rev1 did at the time of initial release 'before the components could age'.
Now thats very promising in deed.
Maybe it wont sound different after all...
Sequent - Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:58 pm
Awesome!
ENV1 wrote:
They also state that the devs did everything they could to ensure that the mini sounds exactly like a brandnew original Rev1 did at the time of initial release 'before the components could age'.
Now thats very promising in deed.
Maybe it wont sound different after all...
Now thats very promising in deed.
Maybe it wont sound different after all...
ENV1 - Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:48 pm
This is it.
The restart of the cycle.
Next will be the PS-3x00, then the PolySix, then the MonoPoly, all the other manufacturers will follow suit and bam the 20s will be the 80s all over again.
God how i envy us.
Better stock up on hairspray and eyeliner NOW folks...
cain - Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:23 pm
yep digging out the tight leather pants as i write
Kriminal - Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:53 pm
eXode wrote:
Don't know if this was posted already:
http://www.korg.de/produkte/synthesizer/ms20mini-produktinfo/ms20mini-produktinfo-1.html
http://www.korg.de/produkte/synthesizer/ms20mini-produktinfo/ms20mini-produktinfo-1.html
That link is dead now....hoax???
zlatan - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:40 pm
himalaya wrote:
Are you by any chance one of those selling those sub-£1300 MS20s on eBay?
Yes !
PM code FORUM for 10% off
eXode - Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:58 pm
Kriminal wrote:
eXode wrote:
Don't know if this was posted already:
http://www.korg.de/produkte/synthesizer/ms20mini-produktinfo/ms20mini-produktinfo-1.html
http://www.korg.de/produkte/synthesizer/ms20mini-produktinfo/ms20mini-produktinfo-1.html
That link is dead now....hoax???
Hoax... or KORG germany jumped the gun... :)
But.. The images are still there...
http://www.korg.de/fileadmin/_korg/_produkte/synthesizer/kr_ms20mini/ms20mini_Detail1.jpg
http://www.korg.de/fileadmin/_korg/_produkte/synthesizer/kr_ms20mini/01_MS-20-mini_front_with-Patch.jpg
http://www.korg.de/fileadmin/_korg/_produkte/synthesizer/kr_ms20mini/ms20mini_Detail3.jpg
http://www.korg.de/fileadmin/_korg/_produkte/synthesizer/kr_ms20mini/ms20mini_Detail2.jpg
zlatan - Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:01 am
himalaya wrote:
ChiTown24 wrote:
and @ 600 euro i'm definitely going to take the "rev3" route before ever committing to spending ~1,200 on an original
This is exactly what I meant.
Besides, is any likely difference in sound be worth that extra £600-£700? For this amount one could get another brand new analog synth and have a much wider palette than when buying only the original MS20!
Well done Korg, I say (we all do, actually
)This is exactly why the "vintage" market price is continuing to go up. It's going to make the original even more "elite"
than it ever was before .... especially for pro artists and collectors.
Another good example is the vintage guitar market .....
EvilDragon - Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:24 am
Except you'll get warranty and support with the new miniMS-20. Can't say that for any of the vintage gear.
MrDuke - Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:27 am
Can't say I'm going to buy this, or that I'm even intrigued in doing so (not my favorite synth), but I have to say: I'm surprised.
For years people have been moaning why the "big three" won't do something with their heritage lineup - and Korg seems to be the only one that listens.
I'm anxious about Yamaha's NAMM lineup...but can't say I'm holding my breath, been disappointed too many times. My guess is a new Motif with all the PLG cards from previous generations, lol.
ChiTown24 - Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:55 pm
http://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/korg-ms-20-mini-monophonic-synthesizer.html
hoping that the price predictions were accurate.
NEOREV - Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:57 pm
awww man, if the price is decent... between $800-$1000... i'm so getting this mofo
Sequent - Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:53 am
NEOREV wrote:
awww man, if the price is decent... between $800-$1000... i'm so getting this mofo
Well, I have heard $800, so there you go. Don't know if that's msrp or street, but I'm going to guess street?
Anyway, I'm with you. I don't mind the slightly smaller size and it will be good not to have to deal with maintenance issues and possibly inheriting someone else's "problem" by getting a vintage model. I'm excited about this possibility. Let's hope it's true!
himalaya - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:07 am
A new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y43NZIrqMcU
aMUSEd - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:10 am
Looks good but unplayable unless it has midi in
Sequent - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:13 am
Awesome, thanks for posting! It was great seeing the mini version and the original version side by side like that.
Sequent - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:16 am
aMUSEd wrote:
Looks good but unplayable unless it has midi in
I'm guessing the midi in is via the usb. Would be cool if there's also a patch editor/librarian application that's bundled with it... which I'm guessing there would be.
Aural Chaos - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:22 am
$599 street. MIDI in with both 5 pin and USB, notes only.
There's a good write up over at CDM, he got his hands on one already.
http://createdigitalmusic.com/2013/01/korg-ms-20-mini-analog-classic-reissued-599-first-hands-on-impressions-sounds-1978-manual-pics/#more-27375
EvilDragon - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:43 am
Looks very playable to me, as these are not mini mini keys as on microkorg. They're medium size. Perfectly fine with that.
It sounds f**king awesome too.
himalaya - Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:57 am
aMUSEd wrote:
Looks good but unplayable unless it has midi in
Why unplayable?
V0RT3X - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:01 am
"The MS-20 mini painstakingly replicates the original MS-20. A development team led by the original engineers themselves worked to recreate the original circuitry, and when it was necessary to substitute a part, these engineers made the decisions based on careful listening, in order to reproduce the original sound faithfully. In fact, the sound of the MS-20 mini has a somewhat bright and extreme quality to it because its sound is that of an original MS-20 in mint condition at the time it went on sale, before any of the components aged." Taken from Korg site
Sequent - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:01 am
Just stepped out for a moment and came back to find the official announcement posted on the front page. Yay!!!! Also, awesome regarding the street price! Maybe I should get two!!!
Or maybe one MS-20 and one Minibrute (thanks Himalaya for posting that track the other day!). Also depends on what other good things are announced at NAMM.
But...
EvilDragon - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:05 am
$600 street!
I'd really like a Sub Phatty, too. It's a whole different sound. And everyone should have a Moog in their arsenal.
aMUSEd - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:15 am
himalaya wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Looks good but unplayable unless it has midi in
Why unplayable?
Mini keys plus tiny keyboard range. Might as well just make a desktop version
Kriminal - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:15 am
himalaya wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Looks good but unplayable unless it has midi in
Why unplayable?
He only uses a mouse in the PR
Kriminal - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:16 am
aMUSEd wrote:
himalaya wrote:
aMUSEd wrote:
Looks good but unplayable unless it has midi in
Why unplayable?
Mini keys plus tiny keyboard range. Might as well just make a desktop version
Not mini keys. 86% full size.
Aural Chaos - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:22 am
Yeah! They aren't mini, they are just 86% of the normal size!
EvilDragon - Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:23 am
Yep, they are NOT mini keys. Medium. As I said already. MEDIUM!
himalaya - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:18 pm
Yep. The size looks ok to me. I went to Digital Village recently and to my surprise a lot of the new keyboard workstations had those slightly smaller keys. It felt strange on a 5 octave keyboard which would be used for polyphonic playing, but on a mono synth, I guess, these slightly smaller keys shouldn't pose any problems.
The UK price seems to be set at £499. A bargain! Compare it to £1300 on eBay! Hopefully the sound is tuned to match the original.
edit - typo
Kriminal - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:21 pm
Still too much money for a new monosynth, IMO.
SJ_Digriz - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:22 pm
This is kind of weird, it seems like they said "we got it right the first time, so we fixed it". I'm not an 1/8th inch or MEDIUM key fan.
himalaya - Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:22 pm
Sequent wrote:
Or maybe one MS-20 and one Minibrute (thanks Himalaya for posting that track the other day!).)
Glad you found it useful.