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bugs - Thu May 27, 2004 4:00 am
Can I get some opinions/comparisons of Pro Tools (the version that comes with the MBox) and Cubase SX2 or Logic Pro. Is there an advantage to having Cubase SX2 or Logic Pro for the purposes of composition?
Thanks!
spaceman - Thu May 27, 2004 4:48 am
I think Pro tools comes in a bigger box so it lends itself better to the building of bird houses
Cubase on the other hand has a flatter manual which is more useful if your table is a bit slanty
tomlad21 - Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:27 am
I think what Spaceman is trying to say is that there isn't really much to choose between them. The professional sequencer market has become very competitive and if one package incorporates a new feature then it won't be long before the others are doing the same.
The difference between the sequencers lies more in their user interface rahter than their feature set. In other words, which do you find easiest to use? Personally, I use Cubase SX 2 as I find it to be fairly user-friendly. I did try Sonar 3 out and didn't know where to start - not easy to navigate at all! The best thing to do is try to demo the differenct sequencers and find the one you are most comfortable with and go with that. Any of the professional packages will do the job you require.
T
spaceman - Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:47 am
tomlad21 wrote:
I think what Spaceman is trying to say is that there isn't really much to choose between them. The professional sequencer market has become very competitive and if one package incorporates a new feature then it won't be long before the others are doing the same.
The difference between the sequencers lies more in their user interface rahter than their feature set. In other words, which do you find easiest to use? Personally, I use Cubase SX 2 as I find it to be fairly user-friendly. I did try Sonar 3 out and didn't know where to start - not easy to navigate at all! The best thing to do is try to demo the differenct sequencers and find the one you are most comfortable with and go with that. Any of the professional packages will do the job you require.
T
The difference between the sequencers lies more in their user interface rahter than their feature set. In other words, which do you find easiest to use? Personally, I use Cubase SX 2 as I find it to be fairly user-friendly. I did try Sonar 3 out and didn't know where to start - not easy to navigate at all! The best thing to do is try to demo the differenct sequencers and find the one you are most comfortable with and go with that. Any of the professional packages will do the job you require.
T
cheers tomlad.. English isn't my native tongue you see, I don't always find the right words
see.. I find Sonar 3 very easy to work with (same goes for Cubase) which is just to show how subjective these things are
Miro - Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:25 am
Bugs - depends what you work with. MIDI your main tool? Logic is your friend. Although the others may have caught up with Logic's excellent MIDI mangling abilities by now. Still on ver.5 on the PC meself....
Logic also has some wonderful native effects.
As far as audio goes...er...anyone wanna give views on that one, more of a MIDI man meself...
Spaceman - yeh, I see what you mean about software boxes - the Reaktor Sessions box is the whole reason I bought the software. Make a great box, those guys at NI. Found some useless round plastic thing in there too...I think it's a coaster...
spaceman - Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:30 am
Miro wrote:
Spaceman - yeh, I see what you mean about software boxes - the Reaktor Sessions box is the whole reason I bought the software. Make a great box, those guys at NI. Found some useless round plastic thing in there too...I think it's a coaster...
and the yellow and orange colours are great for the scaring away of predators.. I think those plastic things are those air humidity regulating thingies
Miro - Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:41 am
spaceman wrote:
...and the yellow and orange colours are great for the scaring away of predators.. I think those plastic things are those air humidity regulating thingies
gotcha. I've been using mine to reflect signals into space. I thought I had been signalling "Take me..I want to visit your world" for the past 8 years...
Upon checking my morse code again, seems like I've been sending "crazy arse wank wheelbarrow vurt-tastic". No wonder I've got no fricken reply...
spaceman - Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:50 am
Miro wrote:
spaceman wrote:
...and the yellow and orange colours are great for the scaring away of predators.. I think those plastic things are those air humidity regulating thingies
gotcha. I've been using mine to reflect signals into space. I thought I had been signalling "Take me..I want to visit your world" for the past 8 years...
Upon checking my morse code again, seems like I've been sending "crazy arse wank wheelbarrow vurt-tastic". No wonder I've got no fricken reply...
nono.. don't worry, they will pick you up, they're just preparing some extra equipment for you
t-willy - Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:52 am
miro and space =
lates
t-willy
spaceman - Tue Jun 01, 2004 6:59 am
t-willy wrote:
miro and space =
I blame the high pressure in my helmet
Miro - Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:00 am
spaceman wrote:
t-willy wrote:
miro and space =
I blame the high pressure in my helmet
That's what I always tell my girlfriend
t-willy - Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:03 am
Miro wrote:
spaceman wrote:
t-willy wrote:
miro and space =
I blame the high pressure in my helmet
That's what I always tell my girlfriend
alright, now that was funny!
lates
t-willy
Miro - Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:15 am
g'night fellas
this poor guy's gonna get excited thinking there's a wealth of info on which host he should choose, only to find us talking crap
t-willy - Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:19 am
Miro wrote:
g'night fellas
this poor guy's gonna get excited thinking there's a wealth of info on which host he should choose, only to find us talking crap
this poor guy's gonna get excited thinking there's a wealth of info on which host he should choose, only to find us talking crap
pro-tools?
lates
t-willy
Sascha Franck - Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:22 am
From what I know, ProTools still only offers a rather rudimentary MIDI implementation - so in case you're after some compositional tool, Logic or Cubase may be things to look at. Further, PT doesn't support VST or AU plugins natively, so you'd need FXpansions adapter or something else.
Personally I prefer Logic for anything compositional because IMO part handling in the arrange window is just superior over anything else, but that might only be a matter of personal taste - there's more than enough people composing great music (better than my stuff anyways) with Cubase.
The good thing with Logic Pro is that you get an almost complete production suite. A LOT of good or even great effects and some software synths that defenitely are amongst the best on the market. There's nothing comparable coming with Cubase.
On the other hand, Cubase supports VST plugins natively, which might be an advance (in case you need them - most bigger companies have AU versions of their stuff as well).
As a "one-thing-does-it-all" package Logic Pro might be unbeatable in terms of price/performance (assuming you allready have a Mac, but it reads like that), but well, you should try to have a look at both Logic and Cubase, to see which one would fit your workflow any better.
spaceman - Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:23 am
there's always one to spoil the fun
tomlad21 - Tue Jun 01, 2004 7:35 am
Quote:
Bugs - depends what you work with. MIDI your main tool? Logic is your friend. Although the others may have caught up with Logic's excellent MIDI mangling abilities by now
True. Logic has been leading the way on the feature front. Take the FX Freeze capability as an example. However, this feature is now available in SX2 (which goes with my original post).
One big factor that will ultimately decide your fate is your computer. If you have a PC then Logic is out.
DevonB - Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:26 am
tomlad21 wrote:
Quote:
Bugs - depends what you work with. MIDI your main tool? Logic is your friend. Although the others may have caught up with Logic's excellent MIDI mangling abilities by now
True. Logic has been leading the way on the feature front. Take the FX Freeze capability as an example. However, this feature is now available in SX2 (which goes with my original post).
Freeze I believe was first done in Tracktion, not Logic. Besides, many of us were doing freeze for years before they put a name on it. It's basically a macro as far as I'm concerned.
Yes, Logic still rocks for MIDI. If Cubase didn't cut back on SX and Nuendo from their previous offerings, it probably be up there. But, I haven't ran across a MIDI feature I needed that Cubase didn't have for my own use. There's too many things with in all these hosts for one person on one forum to portend to which is the best host. It's only the 'best host for you'. The rest is just pure wanking.
Devon
t-willy - Tue Jun 01, 2004 12:04 pm
DevonB wrote:
It's only the 'best host for you'. The rest is just pure wanking.
Devon
Devon
no matter how much wanking i do, i still haven't figured out the best host for me......
lates
t-willy
spaceman - Tue Jun 01, 2004 1:51 pm
t-willy wrote:
DevonB wrote:
It's only the 'best host for you'. The rest is just pure wanking.
Devon
Devon
no matter how much wanking i do, i still haven't figured out the best host for me......
in the meanwhile.. keep wanking
Robr - Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:31 pm
Yeah wanking rules and the psp vintage meter is awesome.
DevonB - Tue Jun 01, 2004 2:31 pm
spaceman wrote:
t-willy wrote:
DevonB wrote:
It's only the 'best host for you'. The rest is just pure wanking.
Devon
Devon
no matter how much wanking i do, i still haven't figured out the best host for me......
in the meanwhile.. keep wanking
Ah yes, and all will be... revealed...
Devon
spaceman - Tue Jun 01, 2004 3:06 pm
DevonB wrote:
spaceman wrote:
t-willy wrote:
DevonB wrote:
It's only the 'best host for you'. The rest is just pure wanking.
Devon
Devon
no matter how much wanking i do, i still haven't figured out the best host for me......
in the meanwhile.. keep wanking
Ah yes, and all will be... revealed...
Devon
nono.. that's 'releaved'
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