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Rick@MuseResearch - Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:36 pm

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Welcome all to the Receptor Forum. We encourage everyone to submit their questions, user feedback and features you would like to see in Receptor. Also if you are a Receptor user and found some really cool way of using it, please let us know.

Rick

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Sicklecell666 - Mon Aug 23, 2004 3:44 pm

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Hey! You're open for discussion..great!

Ok, let's get to the nitty gritty.

How will license issues be handled? As in, what options do we have with a license we already hold?

Will we have to buy secondary licenses..? Or will they be transferable to the Muse?

This is a big issue for users here & we've been wondering how this is going to be dealt with.

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BONES - Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:07 pm

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Ok, here's a question - WTF is Receptor?

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TheoM - Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:16 pm

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hardware vsti rack in a nutshell.
http://www.museresearch.com/receptor_overview.php

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Kriminal - Mon Aug 23, 2004 10:17 pm

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On the left.....

http://www.museresearch.com/

Its a Linux PC in a rack

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BONES - Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:28 am

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Hmmm, looks like it may have been useful a few years back but surely PC's can handle most things on their own now. And I can't imagine how much it will cost down here.

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Kim Lajoie - Tue Aug 24, 2004 12:32 am

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Forever,




Kim.

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PhilAiken - Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:09 am

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I think it depends on your use.
I'm interested in it primarily to use soft synths and samplers during live performance - the fact that I can press it into service in the home studio is icing
on the cake. If I purchase,I can just buy this box and the software, and not need a breakout box, interface, etc. It should hopefully be more roadworthy as well.

I see your point though if you were considering purchasing it for studio use primarily ( and for non-VSTi plugins.)
Because then you need a multichannel break out box and there are likely additional latency issues etc. In this case it seems like a UAD-1 card would indeed serve you better.
Just my opinion as a potential customer.
-Phil

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Kriminal - Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:17 am

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Hi Rick,

how many colours does it come in?

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Sicklecell666 - Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:22 am

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So far almost every question hasn't been replied to a day later..

I'm hoping that support for actual customers is faster than this..

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Kriminal - Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:25 am

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what customers?

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mmetlay - Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:26 am

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Here's a question: where's ours?

The microscope's set up, the nits are ready to be picked, and I have a large pile of rose petals ready for the tossing--and a pair of hobnailed boots ready for the stomping--all set, depending on the test results...

Seriously, we've been waiting quite a while to get our hands on this beastie. We're very excited and eager to see what it can do.

And as a person who writes what he does, for the audience he has, I can answer the "why bother when PCs are so powerful these days?" question without a moment's hesitation.... I have seen what happens when a PC crashes, and I have seen what happens when a Receptor crashes. QED.

mike

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Kriminal - Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:32 am

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So, the common denominator is, they both crash. good start. Thats convinved me to change

My PC hasnt crashed since i bought it in Feb BTW

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Red_Force - Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:19 am

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I can reply the question on "why is it worth it" or at least give my two cents, as it is exactly what came to my mind when I first heard about it.

Well actually, it can be pretty useful. I'd say that the hobbyist allready familiar with computer music may estimate that he doesn't need it, but even for him it's worth considering.

All in all, for a decent price, you have got horsepower. Easy to handle horsepower - when you're short of it, you can just add another receptor unit. No new PC/mac, no new install of your OS, file migration, whatever. The kind of things you wouldn't think about, but that are generally long, boring and stressfull.

Second it's dedicated. That means that it's plug and play, that support is informed on what you want to do with it, that you don't have to inform yourself on how each peripherals of your computer will interact with your personal goal - make music.

Once more a lot of people here are allready geeks with a reasonabe know how on how to deal with computers, and therefore may think they don't really need this. But it still remains a good point. At home, it's something easy to set up in your studio. If your computer crash, it's still there. No worry on audio or latency, it's working straight out of the box. It's an audio interface, a midi interface. Basically your can see it as an UAD but that runs everything in VST world whith its own cpu.

Now, it's an audio designed element. It's rackable. You can move it from place to place, from live gig to studios. Once you have done your tracks and want it produced elsewhere, you don't have to take all your soft, go through painful reinstallation (and associated devil protection scheme) - you just take your receptor(s) to the new place - and everything's here.

So think about it. When you create new sounds in the studio for your synths and FX, you don't have to convert them because they are by default in the box when you go live. Receptor separate music tech question from generic computer tech questions. I think it's an healthy way to proceed.

About the license question now I can speak for ohmforce : Receptor version are handled as any other versions. So it you have the multiversions of our plugs (pack) then you have it by default, else you have to pay a reasonable crossgrade price.

EDIT : damn me, I forgot to say that Receptor comes with a free, full version of Predatohm (and Frohmage, but that's less spectaculor). There are other bonus from other company but personnaly, I think it's of lesser importance

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Kriminal - Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:24 am

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So what about presets, what formay does it use?

I have a preset folder with subfolders for every synth i use, can i transfer that catalogue to the rack, or does it work diff to that?

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Kriminal - Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:26 am

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What about plugs that are single OS, such as Zebra or z3ta, are the compliant with the Receptor OS? Are there limits to what it will install?

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Red_Force - Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:30 am

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A Receptor's plug is basically a PC VST dll with a different installer. This imply it workd exactly like the VST pc version including preset management. Unfortunately it also means that it won't work with anything that is AU only.

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Rick@MuseResearch - Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:19 pm

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Receptor can import fxp files for presets.

Rick
Muse Research Moderator

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Alex@PA - Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:25 pm

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...and fxb's?

I assume it can also import wav's and drumkits?

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DanTimis - Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:46 pm

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Receptor can import fxb's. If you want to know the details, Receptor will read the fxb file and save the individual fxp's in a folder. After that Receptor will use the fxp's.

You can copy wav files to Receptor, and plug-ins that can open those wav files will be able to use them.

Receptor comes with RM III and RM IV pre-installed and it supports their drumkits.

I cannot answer about other drumkits because I do not know their format. But, you can copy files to Receptor and if a plug-in can use those file, then it should work.

Dan

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BONES - Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:06 pm

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I would imagine a laptop to be considerably more robust than these guys would have you believe. I dropped mine a few times without any damage and I bet I can get a good laptop cheaper than Receptor. Then there is the need for a sequencer as nothing I saw on their site suggests it has one in it so you'd need your PC anyway. Or am I missing something here?

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PhilAiken - Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:16 am

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Not missing anything....but what I didn't specify is there wouldn't be any sequencing involved. I'd be using it as a midi-module to be able to play giga-type piano samples using Kompakt, and also some other softsynths like B4, Lounge Lizard, the Auturia stuff et. al.
The fact that I could run VST effects and also use the unit in my home studio is
just icing on the cake.

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Kim Lajoie - Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:02 pm

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Hang on, isn't this about the price of one of those super-workstations (Motif, Triton, Fantom)? This could be an interesting alternative to someone looking at a keyboard workstation for more sounds.

Seriously though - eight or ten seconds to boot up is still too long. If we're talking about bassists tripping over the power lead, or brownouts, then boot-up time should be closer to three seconds I think.

Forever,




Kim.

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BONES - Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:42 pm

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That being the case I am certain I would rather use a Triton or even a TritonLE - for all the same reasons I wouldn't consider a Triton rack, I suppose.

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Kim Lajoie - Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:54 pm

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Maybe look at it as a Triton Rack, but dedicated to synthesis - many different kinds, not just sample-playback.

Forever,




Kim.

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BONES - Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:46 pm

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Yeah, but I would only use a rack to be played by a sequencer. If I wanted to play it, I'd buy the keyboard version and with Triton you get plenty more like a really good sequencer, arpeggiators and a much better GUI.

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PhilAiken - Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:12 am

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I don't believe that a Triton could do what I'm after. I specifically want to be able
to play piano sample libraries that are over a gigabyte in size and require
streaming from disc. I already have a digital piano, Kurzweil K2000, and various
other things that cover sampling,synthesis, etc...... I am looking for a specific function and the 2 options would be this or a laptop w/ and interface and a breakout box. The rackmountability of Receptor would be a plus.

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SpIdErWeB - Thu Aug 26, 2004 8:27 am

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I have Triton Extreme, Yamaha Motif and I assure you that they are completly different of Muse Receptor ... This is not comparable.

By the way, you can have some arpegiator with plugins too... and more complex than Triton...

For memory, expander like Motif don't have sequencer too...

Bye
Spid

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aaastronomer - Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:17 am

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greetings to all...

i'm somewhat reluctant to buy anything when we're on the verge of a major pc architecture change...multi-core 64 bit processor chips and 64 bit operating systems...so, questions:

can receptor's cpu be upgraded to a 64 bit multi-core cpu? at home or at the factory?

is receptor's os a 64 bit os? if not, can it (will it) be upgraded (so that it still runs 32 bit apps)?

if no, to the above questions: is a multi-core 64 bit receptor being designed?

i'd definitely fork over workstation prices for something like that...

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DanTimis - Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:11 am

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The current version of Receptor cannot be upgraded to a 64-bit architecture. We do not comment on product development so I cannot tell you if we are working on a 64-bit version. Sorry.

A 64 bit processor and a 64 bit OS is not going to make a huge difference, until VST plug-ins take advantage of the 64 bit architecture. It will get there eventually.

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kgdrum - Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:38 am

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i use dp /would i have to use a wrapper to use this in dp? i will not use wrappers ,all my plugs and vi's i install as au

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DanTimis - Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:06 pm

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No, you don't need a wrapper. You can use Receptor like any other MIDI sound module: you send MIDI to your MIDI interface and you connect a MIDI cable to Receptor. When UniWire becomes available you will also be able to use just the Ethernet cable with the UniWire AU plug-in.

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kgdrum - Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:21 pm

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thanks for the info

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strawinsky - Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:39 am

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Have you actually turned it on yet? Sorry: I know it's George Costanza-late,but I couldn't resist.

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Bryan@MuseResearch - Thu Apr 20, 2006 4:39 pm

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By the way, please welcome back MAX REVERB to Muse. We're really happy to have Rick Escobar (Max Reveber) back with us, and as it turns out, he missed everyone so much that he had to come back!

WELCOME BACK RICK!!!

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moseslawn - Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:33 am

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Good news! Rick/Max provided the best customer service experience I've ever had with any product, prompt and personal (& I'm in Canada), resolving an urgent hardware issue I had with my Receptor. Glad you got him back.

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Muna - Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:17 am

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What has receptor to do with KVR? Why a dedicated part of the forum to it?

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Ben [KVR] - Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:15 am

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Muse Research owns KVR.

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Muna - Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:26 am

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ok cool thanks for the info

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laboltt - Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:54 pm

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I need to load an entire mutli (which I created in a new Receptor) of more than 100 patches entirely into RAM for a live performance. I know others are doing this, but currently there is the lag while each patch loads as it is selected. How do I preload all patches in a multi so they are instantly available for quick switches? Am I missing out on some mysterious 'mapper' program?

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stingray - Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:27 am

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Hi,
I'm new here in the forum and not sure whether I'm right here. If not, move please!


I would wish me a combination of the Roland VG / VB 99 and the Receptor technology with GK Input for the receptor, and would like to play software instruments like Scarbee, Chris Hein, Vir2 and so on, with the Receptor by guitar and bass.

So one of the Receptor can directly operate with bass and guitar (for example, with GK 3 Hexpickup) without having to use him on the detour as an external MIDI sound module!
Therefore, the idea with the GK input for the Receptor.

I fear that the receptor behaves when used as an external MIDI sound module, much like the VB 99 or Axon AX100 mkII, if one runs them with external sound modules, otherwise I would have bought Receptor already ..
Both devices (VB 99 and axon) I so have already tried with bass (GK 3B) via MIDI ...
Today Slap Bass over MIDI is there really not a good idea, even if the sounds of the connected sound modules themselves so well and nteressant.

The MIDI change has unfortunately there is still so large tracking problems and audible high latency, so something live is not applicable.

Could have someone test as a "GK-ready Bass" works on receptor (for example, Vir2 Basis) with Receptors MidiInput ? That would interest me burning!

Is it technically not yet an option, the advantages of both systems (Receptor / VB 99, VG 99) combine without their respective disadvantages with each other? So I can play Audiomodeling / Physdicalmodeling and Vst software tools in only one device? The technology is already available!

Was thinking about gambling?
Muse but also cooperates with several other hardware manufacturers such as Peavey. Why not with Roland?

Combining the best of both worlds in one device would look like the competition can be quite old.
Thus the receptor would then also for guitarists and bass players who would otherwise tend to access a AXE FX Ultra or VG / VB 99, the ultimate tool with absolute high-end sounds!
As it were the Holy Grail for all stringed instruments ...

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