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rcat · Post by **rcat** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:49 pm

I'd like to be able to load any .wav drum loop, play it back and have the program automatically randomize the drum hits in the loop. Does any app like this exist? Thanks.

bugs · Post by **bugs** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:58 pm

Stylus RMX

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:00 pm

rcat wrote:I'd like to be able to load any .wav drum loop, play it back and have the program automatically randomize the drum hits in the loop. Does any app like this exist? Thanks.

try Tuareg from BramBos.com

It won't randomize it, but it will allow you to drag the individual beats from a visual representation of the loop into another visual representation of the loop directly below it. So it's quick and dirty and you can export it very quickly from there, and then just continue to juggle things around. You can make presets from your new ordering of the beats and then apply those to new loops. So, in a sense, with a new loop context, its just as good as randomization.

btw, I don't know if randomization is a great thing for drums. You might stumble across something interesting, but there's really no substitute for intentionality. However, if you want to spend some cash, Stylus RMX has an intelligent beat randomizer that you can play and set the range for what it's going to alter, etc.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:08 pm

Liveslice. It will automatically slice up your loops, and you can assign a probability of triggering to each slice, which is much more useful than pure randomness.

blue on blue · Post by **blue on blue** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:10 pm

freebie effects like SupaTrigga and LiveCut might be something worth checking out.

stash98 · Post by **stash98** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:18 pm

i second Stylus. it sounds exactly like what you want.

Shane Sanders · Post by **Shane Sanders** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:20 pm

I forgot: Tuareg2 does have a random button on the slicer.

R.A.W. · Post by **R.A.W.** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:31 pm

i second LiveSlice - http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1952.html

if you don't need a big library and just wanna use it on your own loops it'll be perfect, as it has a very reasonable price and has lots of features.

this is the tool i was looking for a long time. you really should check out the demo - here's a direct link to the dev's site http://livelab.dk/downloads.php

mahtazz · Post by **mahtazz** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 4:35 pm

My choice is: ERA2

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/938.html

ohm · Post by **ohm** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:46 pm

Allow me to add that LiveSlice has two different modes of randomization. One simply swaps the individual hits leaving the positions unchanged, the other rearranges them on after the other avoiding gaps.
Furhtermore, LiveSlice was designed to make it easy to visually identify and rearrange the hits manually to fine tune the arrangement.

Those of you that are curious, but don't want to install another demo, have a look at the flash demos here: http://livelab.dk/liveslice_gallery.php - then go and install the demo

The limitations are pretty generous by the way, so you can actually use the demo without registering.

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:43 pm

Live slice looks fine, i have been on the website, but i can not see if it allows stereo files (on the flash demo, very audio files is stereo) ?
and could you tell us what are the demo restrictions ?
thank you !

FaX · Post by **FaX** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:36 pm

sinkmusic wrote:Live slice looks fine, i have been on the website, but i can not see if it allows stereo files (on the flash demo, very audio files is stereo) ?
and could you tell us what are the demo restrictions ?
thank you !

It's a VST effect just like SUPPATRIGGA you can drop it into any audio track or after any synth etc so you don't load loops into it you pass audio through it much like a delay effect as an insert etc.
Which gives it alot more scope as you can dice vocals on the fly and all other sorts of goodies.
And yes it processes either mono or stereo signals .

EDIT - Ooops sorry I was refering to LIVE-CUT and SUPPATRIGGA here which you may want to check out also.

May I also suggest sharpenning your chops in the old skool technique of cut and paste editing.
Yes I know it's manual and it takes some work but the results are 100% worthwile and give you lots of personalised control also - your DAW is an Audio editor after all so learn to use those sorts of features to your advantage also.[/i][/b]

ohm · Post by **ohm** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:37 pm

LiveSlice can import wav files in mono or stereo, 8-32 bits. It can even import / export slices from / to ACIDized wave files (rx2 import is planned).
The demo has one restriction: when you re-load a song all the loops are replaced by a demo loop. No time limits, no noises or dropouts.

ohm · Post by **ohm** » Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:41 pm

It's a VST effect just like SUPPATRIGGA

edit: I see you corrected your post while I was writing this

You must have LiveSlice confused with Smartelectronix LiveCut.

LiveSlice is a VSTi, and although I'm currently working on recording audio input in real time, so it can be used as an effect, it's currently an instrument.

With the new input recording, however, it will have some similarities to supatrigga / livecut, but with the possibility to have total control of the output (midi sequence randomizations, reverse, pitch changes).

Freeform · Post by **Freeform** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:17 am

Smartelectronix comes out w/ some of the coolest stuff... Thank god for those guys.

I need a drum synth loop player with randomize feature.