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Architeuthis · Post by **Architeuthis** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:49 am

old topic wrote:http://www.argitoth.com/files/song.mp3 <-- really crappy (demoed version)

a chiptune I created with z3ta+. The only thing I can't seem to get it to do is control the noise's pitch. Anyway, so I was demoing this thing (still in search of an Absynth replacement) and this program surprised me on every level. If I tried to recreate the waves I used in Absynth which I created in z3ta+ you would hear a huge difference in quality.

So... yeah. I just have one question. Is it possible to control the pitch of the noise wave? The only thing that seems to control it is the octave setting. The pitch LFO nor an LFO destined to the osc pitch can control it. Importing the noise wave from "Load User Wavetable" doesn't work either since the noise sounds like a saw wave in the program.

EDIT: OMG... SURGE... HOLY CRAP IT'S FREAKEN AWESOME.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:13 am

THIS IS THE BEST SYNTH I'VE EVER USED

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:14 am

[/trolling]jay kay though. Zeta is great. I think I like the envelope section more than any subtractive VA, and the waveform parameters are wicked.

Architeuthis · Post by **Architeuthis** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:33 am

The Chase wrote:and the waveform parameters are wicked.

MIDI Learn is AWESOME too. The SAME midi CC can control MULTIPLE things.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:57 am

Am I like the only one in the world who does NOT like the sound of Z3ta at all?

Cheers!
bManic

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:59 am

bmanic wrote:Am I like the only one in the world who does NOT like the sound of Z3ta at all?

Cheers!
bManic

What dont you like about it?

ATS · Post by **ATS** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:01 am

bmanic wrote:Am I like the only one in the world who does NOT like the sound of Z3ta at all?

Cheers!
bManic

it can do more than one sound

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:03 am

The Chase wrote:
bmanic wrote:Am I like the only one in the world who does NOT like the sound of Z3ta at all?

Cheers!
bManic
What dont you like about it?

The sound. It's probably a combination of the, IMHO!!, very weak filter and the sub-par oscillators. I don't know. I simply think it sounds extremely sterile and un-musical.

Cheers!
bManic

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:04 am

ATS wrote:
bmanic wrote:Am I like the only one in the world who does NOT like the sound of Z3ta at all?

Cheers!
bManic
it can do more than one sound

Yes, and on a guitar you can play more than one chord.. stil has the basic sound.

- bManic

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:07 am

bmanic wrote:Yes, and on a guitar you can play more than one chord.. stil has the basic sound.

Hmmm, strange. I wonder why all of my guitar player friends are obsessed with their "tone" by constantly tweaking pickups, using numerous amps, mikes, effects EQ, etc....

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:10 am

John Vulich wrote:
bmanic wrote:Yes, and on a guitar you can play more than one chord.. stil has the basic sound.
Hmmm, strange. I wonder why all of my guitar player friends are obsessed with their "tone" by constantly tweaking pickups, using numerous amps, mikes, effects EQ, etc....

And all of those setups have their different basic sound. That was kinda his point. Why the roll?

Your analogy doesnt fit. He said he didnt like the filters, and unlike the pickups on a guitar, you cant change out the filters in zeta.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:13 am

John Vulich wrote:
bmanic wrote:Yes, and on a guitar you can play more than one chord.. stil has the basic sound.
Hmmm, strange. I wonder why all of my guitar player friends are obsessed with their "tone" by constantly tweaking pickups, using numerous amps, mikes, effects EQ, etc....

And I meant one single specific guitar. Trust me, my old guitar that I found in a dumpster has a specific tone of it's own, no mater what you run it trough or whatever chords you play. That basic "tone" of the cracked body is ALWAYS there.

Cheers!
bManic

Killvehicle · Post by **Killvehicle** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:37 am

Z3ta is the only synth I have bought, and yeah at first I was a little disappointed with its sound,, I can certainly relate to someone saying its sterile and unmusical, but I now use a lot more often and am finding some really great sounds that fit...

One of my best ways to use it is to have my 6 year old daughter sit next to me and she controls the mouse and we just mangle things until it sounds good. And thats what is almost amazing about this synth, I literally have my daughter f**k with controls and I ALWAYS end up with some great sound... At this point I have become a huge fan of this synth..

bullshark · Post by **bullshark** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:39 am

bmanic wrote:Am I like the only one in the world who does NOT like the sound of Z3ta at all?

No, you're not.

ew · Post by ew » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:55 am

Architeusis wrote:So... yeah. I just have one question. Is it possible to control the pitch of the noise wave? The only thing that seems to control it is the octave setting.

?

The last time I looked, the definition of noise was an equal mixture of all possible frequencies- by that definition, unpitched...

ew

[EDIT] SURGE is possibly the best synth I've ever used.