KVR Audio

gcsmoney · Post by **gcsmoney** » Fri May 26, 2006 6:50 am

Hey K-V-Rists,

I recently emailed Glen Stegner of Voltkitchen fame-the masterminds behind MiniMogueVA & Arppe2600VA (both awesome knock-offs of the Mini-Moog & Arp, respectively) & requested a knock- off of the PPG Wave 2.V as well if possible. I said that I thought a price of $50-$70 USD would sound fair to pay if it where comparable to the original in looks, operation & sound.
(Meaning similar & ample presets) If this sounds like something that would be of interest please respond here, or better yet,email Glen at glen@glenstegner.com . Am I the LONE voice of PPG fans in the wilderness?? I hope not...

Alan · Post by **Alan** » Fri May 26, 2006 7:01 am

Since there already is a PPG plugin, would this even be legal?

Collusion · Post by **Collusion** » Fri May 26, 2006 7:15 am

As a fan of the PPG/Waldorf sound, I'd point you in the direction of ConcreteFX's very flexible Kubik

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1223.html

and Steinberg's accurate PPG Wave 2.x emulation

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/81.html

STL's VAZ 2010 and VAZ Modular can also do the scanning wavetable thing, but are somewhat more expensive than the others. Worthwhile considering they're more flexible still.

Baas · Post by **Baas** » Fri May 26, 2006 7:40 am

I own the Kubik and PPG Wave 2.v and they are both wonderful machines. The PPG, obviuosly, is the one sounding most like the original (I have owned a PPG Wave 2.3 myself and a Waldorf Microwave XT building on the same principles) and the Kubik is taking wavetables even further.

If you love the sound of the PPG get the PPG Wave 2.v. It is the most accurate emulation. If you want something that takes the PPG concept further get Kubik.

Or .. well .. get both

KennethA

blaster78 · Post by **blaster78** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:55 am

he's going to love you for posting his email address openly on the forum, that won't generate spam at all, he's definately gonna be your best freind.

gcsmoney · Post by **gcsmoney** » Fri May 26, 2006 12:03 pm

Just trying to get him a response directly/This could be a $$ maker for these guys at Voltkitchen. The PPG links are now toast....

jkotz · Post by **jkotz** » Fri May 26, 2006 1:24 pm

gcsmoney wrote:This could be a $$ maker for these guys at Voltkitchen.

Don't they give their synths away for free?

Micha · Post by **Micha** » Fri May 26, 2006 2:51 pm

BTW: Waldorf seems to be offline!

gcsmoney · Post by **gcsmoney** » Fri May 26, 2006 2:53 pm

jkotz wrote:
gcsmoney wrote:This could be a $$ maker for these guys at Voltkitchen.
Don't they give their synths away for free?

Yes, you are correct sir.... But I think they deserve a money making venture after the nice work they had done previously. They could finally get some $$ recognition, & I think fans of the PPG would be happy getting a good replica (which I feel confident they could reproduce) for half the price.

On the other hand, you do have five more fingers.....

gcsmoney · Post by **gcsmoney** » Fri May 26, 2006 3:06 pm

Alan wrote:Since there already is a PPG plugin, would this even be legal?

I don't think so...A couple of companies out there covered the same software (NI vs Arturia, a couple versions of ARPS, etc) So I can't see why not.

24 hours to a day, 24 beers to a case-This is no coincidence....

arakula · Post by **arakula** » Fri May 26, 2006 3:27 pm

If you want a nearly absolute replica, look here for something I did some time ago. I got a VST version in my drawer (on my computers, actually), but it isn't really ready for prime time yet (besides, it's a weird thing that presumably only appeals to hard-core PPG fans, so I don't see too big a market for it - it has exactly the same deficiencies as the original

).

Scot Solida · Post by **Scot Solida** » Fri May 26, 2006 3:36 pm

arakula wrote:If you want a nearly absolute replica, look here for something I did some time ago. I got a VST version in my drawer (on my computers, actually), but it isn't really ready for prime time yet (besides, it's a weird thing that presumably only appeals to hard-core PPG fans, so I don't see too big a market for it - it has exactly the same deficiencies as the original ).

arakula, you did that? I hate to ask, but I have lusted after a finished Waveterm C...whatever happened to it? I would love a Waveterm A to use with my 2.2, but I never see 'em for sale...

Oooh, if your VST version would be able to shuttle information back and forth with the real deal, i would be in My Blue Heaven...

arakula · Post by **arakula** » Fri May 26, 2006 4:49 pm

Currently, I'm far too deeply involved in other things (VSTHost/SAVIHost, and a commercial derivate thereof that should make its debut in a new DAW sometime later this year), so Waveterm C is in sort of a dormant state. The hardware part... well, I don't know if it will really survive. With my V8.3 OS for the PPGs, you can do the same via MIDI (just a bit slower). And yes, this way you can exchange programs between the VST version and the real one, iff the host you're using allows SysEx transfer.

[Edit:] I've also created a little application that allows program transfer between the Waldorf PPG Wave 2.V and the "real" one, as good as this is possible (different parameter sets and parameter ranges); was even featured at the old Waldorf site... hey, it's still there... only works with V8.3 and a program like MidiOX that can send .syx files to an attached synthesizer.

Scot Solida · Post by **Scot Solida** » Fri May 26, 2006 4:55 pm

arakula wrote:With my V8.3 OS for the PPGs, you can do the same via MIDI (just a bit slower). And yes, this way you can exchange programs between the VST version and the real one, iff the host you're using allows SysEx transfer.

That's good to know! I won't hold my breath for Waveterm C, then. I do have 8.3 installed (that's the first thing I did after buying my 2.2...the fellow I got it from had purchased the 8.3 OS but never put it in there).

Thanks for the info!