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dczx · Post by **dczx** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:29 am

Are there are VST's similar to the Nord Wave in features/functionality?

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:36 am

dczx wrote:Are there are VST's similar to the Nord Wave in features/functionality?

Something like this?

http://www.discodsp.com/

asbfly · Post by **asbfly** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:39 am

I'm no expert on the Nord Lead, but I do own DiscoDSP Discovery which is modeled on the Nord. Here's a comparison:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efoY3IHAOFQ

Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:58 am

That video is a pretty good example of how different they are. Also, what does this have to do with the Nord Wave? The OP didn't mention "Nord Lead" anywhere.

musikmachine · Post by **musikmachine** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:02 am

Tronam wrote:That video is a pretty good example of how different they are. Also, what does this have to do with the Nord Wave? The OP didn't mention "Nord Lead" anywhere.

I've never heard of the nord wave,thought he meant nord lead!I see i'm not the only one

Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:24 am

The Nord Wave is Clavia's hybrid sample based synthesizer. I haven't heard it yet, but they always win high marks with me on sound and ergonomics.

fac · Post by **fac** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:51 am

By looking at the specs of the Nord Wave, it looks like a Nord Lead with the ability to play sampled waveforms.

I think most of its functionality can be obtained with softsynths like Wusikstation or Rapture. Particularly, Wusikstation has pretty good modulation options. Another option is to use a good sampler like ShortCircuit (which is now free).

Megakazbek · Post by **Megakazbek** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:00 pm

fac wrote:By looking at the specs of the Nord Wave, it looks like a Nord Lead with the ability to play sampled waveforms.

I think most of its functionality can be obtained with softsynths like Wusikstation or Rapture. Particularly, Wusikstation has pretty good modulation options. Another option is to use a good sampler like ShortCircuit (which is now free).

I can't think of any softsynth that can do FM and PM with sampled wave as a carrier

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:10 pm

Megakazbek wrote: I can't think of any softsynth that can do FM and PM with sampled wave as a carrier

there are more than a couple that can do FM with samples; Rhino's been doing it for years.

As for 'PM' what do you mean? Physical modelling? What would 'the carrier' be in that context, thats unfamiliar usage to me; the excitation source perhaps?

triple p · Post by **triple p** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:13 pm

Megakazbek wrote:
fac wrote:By looking at the specs of the Nord Wave, it looks like a Nord Lead with the ability to play sampled waveforms.

I think most of its functionality can be obtained with softsynths like Wusikstation or Rapture. Particularly, Wusikstation has pretty good modulation options. Another option is to use a good sampler like ShortCircuit (which is now free).
I can't think of any softsynth that can do FM and PM with sampled wave as a carrier

Wusikstation does FM with sampled waves.

ugo · Post by **ugo** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:15 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:As for 'PM' what do you mean? Physical modelling? What would 'the carrier' be in that context, thats unfamiliar usage to me; the excitation source perhaps?

I believe Megakazbek is referring to Phase Modulation, as opposed to Frequency Modulation.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:22 pm

ugo wrote: I believe Megakazbek is referring to Phase Modulation, as opposed to Frequency Modulation.

ah, i see. ta. not seen wave-based PM in a fixed-architecture synth, I have to admit, but then yamaha-style FM was PM anyways wasnt it? pretty sure most modular softsynths with wave support can handle it tho.

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:28 pm

I think Absynth has a lot of features in common with the Nord Wave. The thing is, Nords have such a characteristic sound it would be tough to reproduce with something other than a Nord. I think they share the same filter as the Lead which is (to me) part of what makes it so identifiable.

fac · Post by **fac** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:57 pm

Megakazbek wrote:
fac wrote:By looking at the specs of the Nord Wave, it looks like a Nord Lead with the ability to play sampled waveforms.

I think most of its functionality can be obtained with softsynths like Wusikstation or Rapture. Particularly, Wusikstation has pretty good modulation options. Another option is to use a good sampler like ShortCircuit (which is now free).
I can't think of any softsynth that can do FM and PM with sampled wave as a carrier

Wusikstation does FM, as I'm sure some others do.

PM (phase modulation) I'm not sure, but there may be some.

In any case, I said "most of the nord wave functionality can be obtained with softsynths"... key word being "most"

hersoot · Post by **hersoot** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:03 pm

I have Discovery, but doesn't Discovery Pro have wave oscillators added as well?

Nord Wave-ish VST?