LittleOne, Little Phatty emulation
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 660 posts since 12 Sep, 2007 from Sweden
Just saw this on the front page:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/4303.html
Never heard of "Xhun Audio" before. Anyone know more? Anyone tried the synth and compared it to the "real" one? To be honest I already have more than enough virtual analogs but if it's really, really good I might consider it. It's only €45, but the LP it emulates is of course rather basic...
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/4303.html
Never heard of "Xhun Audio" before. Anyone know more? Anyone tried the synth and compared it to the "real" one? To be honest I already have more than enough virtual analogs but if it's really, really good I might consider it. It's only €45, but the LP it emulates is of course rather basic...
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- KVRian
- 533 posts since 2 Jan, 2003 from Staffs, UK
I saw it too and couldn't believe that they actually made their GUI with the same cost saving limitations that the greedy Moog company has.
1 knob for either cutoff or resonance, on a software GUI?????
I'm guessing pixel prices went up in the recession too.
For that reason alone I am not going to test it
1 knob for either cutoff or resonance, on a software GUI?????
I'm guessing pixel prices went up in the recession too.
For that reason alone I am not going to test it
No, that Glitch is meant to be there.....
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- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
On the flipside, if you are going to emulate, shouldnt you do so accurately? But yeah, that is too much clicking for my taste...
- KVRAF
- 40243 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
The intro' price is good. I've downloaded the DEMO. Looking forward to giving it a spin later on. Not too bothered by the lack of buttons, since I love Presets anyway! A tweak here, a tweak there and Bob's yer uncle, Billy's yer Aunt!!!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 660 posts since 12 Sep, 2007 from Sweden
I can understand both views.. On the one hand you want it to look as close to the real thing as possible on-screen, because this will make it feel (and even sound) more authentic.Stupid American Pig wrote:On the flipside, if you are going to emulate, shouldnt you do so accurately? But yeah, that is too much clicking for my taste...
For example, if you create two identical synths in SynthEdit, and give one a retro-look with fake wood, Minimoog-style knobs etc, and the other with bright colors, fancy LCD's etc., and ask people to compare the sound, many people will "hear" a difference anyway. The wooden one will sound "warm", "analog" etc. while the fancy GUI with bright colors will sound "artificial", "plastic" or perhaps "bright".
On the other hand, physical synths are restricted for practical and cost reasons, while you can have a GUI with 15 bright "LCD's" and it won't cost more than the time it takes to draw them in your graphics editor.
Going to try the demo tonight but that will only tell me whether it sounds good on its own. I would love to hear what people who own or have played a real Moog synth like the LP have to say.
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- KVRAF
- 5627 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
A simple solution is this: present the emulation with an exact hardware GUI, but add a button which when clicked opens up the GUI to reveal an extended view with knobs per parameter. Everyone will be happy, the masochist who likes to click buttons galore, and the muso who wants to get on with sound design and not be hampered by click-it-titis.
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- KVRian
- 550 posts since 2 Aug, 2006 from UK
Considering how well received the MiniMonsta has been, it's a brave man who offers up a pure emulation of the reduced version of the classic Moog.
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- KVRAF
- 4278 posts since 14 Nov, 2008 from UK
I had a little play on my laptop out of curiousity and I think it sounds well, it's an ideal starter synth for someone new and has the same kind of appeal as say Bass Station & V-Station, but it sounds 10 x better than Bass Station, I feel they want too much money for it, I reckon £30 full price as an ideal starter synth, it does sound good IMO!Madrayken wrote:Considering how well received the MiniMonsta has been, it's a brave man who offers up a pure emulation of the reduced version of the classic Moog.
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- KVRAF
- 2945 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
It is crashing cubase 5 here. Too bad. I was quite interested in this and thought the demo audio tunes sounded quite good. - Scotty
breakmixer wrote:I had a little play on my laptop out of curiousity and I think it sounds well, it's an ideal starter synth for someone new and has the same kind of appeal as say Bass Station & V-Station, but it sounds 10 x better than Bass Station, I feel they want too much money for it, I reckon £30 full price as an ideal starter synth, it does sound good IMO!Madrayken wrote:Considering how well received the MiniMonsta has been, it's a brave man who offers up a pure emulation of the reduced version of the classic Moog.
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- KVRAF
- 4278 posts since 14 Nov, 2008 from UK
I'm in Cubase SX3(still!) I'll try the demo on my studio PC and see if it does the same...Scotty wrote:It is crashing cubase 5 here. Too bad. I was quite interested in this and thought the demo audio tunes sounded quite good. - Scotty
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- KVRAF
- 5627 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
When you think about it... a new synth user needs an easy and clear GUI that can produce good results with the minimum of fuss. The need for multiple button clicking in this synth makes it difficult. I mean, to change the ADSR we need to click on four different buttons ! So, I would say that the GUI needs to be improved to make it truly ideal for newcomers.breakmixer wrote: it's an ideal starter synth for someone new
In a similar fashion, it would be weird for NI if they had emulated the very exact way a real DX7 operates, with one button plus one data slider per parameter and yet they did not (with their FM7).
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Currently i am tying the demo of tis nice little synth. The presets are nice and the sound quality is really good. What i really like is the analog style step sequencer. Even the patches where the sequencer is switched off have their own sequence, try it!
The introduction price is 45 euros which is not too much if you think about that it's not (at least it looks like...) a SE or SM plugin.
Anyway I could understand the discussion about the GUI.
BTW the real Little Phatty is now below 1000 euros which makes it possible that i get one sooner or later.
PS: The first time i saw an Little Phatty emulation was a synth created with VAZ Modular 3.
The introduction price is 45 euros which is not too much if you think about that it's not (at least it looks like...) a SE or SM plugin.
Anyway I could understand the discussion about the GUI.
BTW the real Little Phatty is now below 1000 euros which makes it possible that i get one sooner or later.
PS: The first time i saw an Little Phatty emulation was a synth created with VAZ Modular 3.
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- KVRAF
- 5627 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium
Ingo, it is SE, from the 'credits' page:Ingonator wrote:
The introduction price is 45 euros which is not too much if you think about that it's not (at least it looks like...) a SE or SM plugin.
Not that I care, as there are some trully excellent SE made synths. However they talk about Physical Modelling, so I wonder how and to what extent that was done in SE. Just out of interest.Our products make use of 3rd party modules listed below :
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