Vengeance Producer Suite: Metrum. DrumSynth
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 19 Mar, 2010
i wouldn't pay 150$ for this, for 200$ i got zebra2, which can make pretty good kicks with some help from edison.
7 random kicks from my original kicks folder:
http://www.box.net/shared/zoe1bssect
plus, knowing i made my sounds from scratch gives me a hardon, now if only i knew how to make good snares/claps within my synths
7 random kicks from my original kicks folder:
http://www.box.net/shared/zoe1bssect
plus, knowing i made my sounds from scratch gives me a hardon, now if only i knew how to make good snares/claps within my synths
- KVRAF
- 5813 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
I have the demo running this time...
It needs a lot more work to do the same stuff with synth+sampler.
The closest thing I remember is Bazzism for sine based kick+low frequency and a layered sample for the middle/high range of the kick.
Microtonic can sound similar but not the same. I have never get a similar kick created in Microtonic.
The kicks don't need additional FX to hype the bottom (low pass+resonance, distortion).
The only bad thing: the demo is a bit limited. Works only 10minutes (must then be reloaded) and the complete trial is 5 days. So the demo is only to have a very short look how things are working.
I think it's a good plug-in but a bit expensive. It would get more attention for a reasonable price (I think more about <100€)
It needs a lot more work to do the same stuff with synth+sampler.
The closest thing I remember is Bazzism for sine based kick+low frequency and a layered sample for the middle/high range of the kick.
Microtonic can sound similar but not the same. I have never get a similar kick created in Microtonic.
The kicks don't need additional FX to hype the bottom (low pass+resonance, distortion).
The only bad thing: the demo is a bit limited. Works only 10minutes (must then be reloaded) and the complete trial is 5 days. So the demo is only to have a very short look how things are working.
I think it's a good plug-in but a bit expensive. It would get more attention for a reasonable price (I think more about <100€)
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 20 Feb, 2012
I bought Metrum and MBS from Vengeance, and both plugins have a constant CPU spike of %70 when the GUI is open. So I never use them. These plugins would be amazing if they would fix this issue but for me is unusable. Biggest waste of almost $400 !!
- KVRAF
- 8620 posts since 2 Oct, 2006 from Leeds, UK
Were they not present in the demo?!
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- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
If you have a kickdrum-fetish, you need Metrum I think House, Trance, Electro music producer will love it.
I bought Metrum a while ago. What *I* love about Metrum: The user interface, how versatile it sounds, the pitch env editing (its fiddly first). Basicly, you have *full* control over every aspect of what makes it 'kick' It's rock solid, never crashed my system. Downsides: Price (ouch) and CPU (takes 12% per instance which is alot for my system).
I wish Metrum had a 'freeze'-function (and export/save kickdrums as wav/aif) instead of calculating all layers in realtime, especially with some FX switched on it can use some CPU. It should have a basic simple sampler inbuilt for 'frozen' kicks, with all FX disabled in this mode for minimum CPU usage.
Metrum comes also with samples, that can be combined for its low/mid/top end, so it's not fair to compare it to lets say Zebra, Drummax, Microtonic, etc.. IMO, It can sound much more alive or 'organic' because of it.
I bought Metrum a while ago. What *I* love about Metrum: The user interface, how versatile it sounds, the pitch env editing (its fiddly first). Basicly, you have *full* control over every aspect of what makes it 'kick' It's rock solid, never crashed my system. Downsides: Price (ouch) and CPU (takes 12% per instance which is alot for my system).
I wish Metrum had a 'freeze'-function (and export/save kickdrums as wav/aif) instead of calculating all layers in realtime, especially with some FX switched on it can use some CPU. It should have a basic simple sampler inbuilt for 'frozen' kicks, with all FX disabled in this mode for minimum CPU usage.
Metrum comes also with samples, that can be combined for its low/mid/top end, so it's not fair to compare it to lets say Zebra, Drummax, Microtonic, etc.. IMO, It can sound much more alive or 'organic' because of it.
Cowbells!
- KVRAF
- 2177 posts since 12 Nov, 2009
they won't do that in my setup. win7, 64 bit, Sonar X1lowski wrote:I bought Metrum and MBS from Vengeance, and both plugins have a constant CPU spike of %70 when the GUI is open. So I never use them. These plugins would be amazing if they would fix this issue but for me is unusable. Biggest waste of almost $400 !!
Finally!
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
I thought 12% is quite a lot. I run Win7 Pro x64, 2xXeon processors (8 cores 2.6ghz), Studio One v2 x32. ASIO pcie sound card in 96 kHz , 24 bit.lowski wrote:Hey dalor, what DAW and OS are you using Metrum with?. How is it only using %12 CPU?
Cowbells!
- KVRAF
- 10528 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
LOL how did you get this number? It can randomize stuff from samples to amp/pitch envelopes/filters, plus the sub bass is a synth and not sample based! You can get unlimited number of combinationsosiris wrote:That's like $2.20 per kick
Cowbells!
- KVRAF
- 10528 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Lol. From a review that said it had 330 presets. But, my math is wrong. 135 pounds works out to $213.00. So it's 66 cents per kick. My bad.
- KVRAF
- 2488 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
Hehe well I wouldn't have spent this amount of money for any plugin that's limited to presets only. Metrum can be as complex and versatile as you drive it, far beyond a preset machine.osiris wrote:Lol. From a review that said it had 330 presets. But, my math is wrong. 135 pounds works out to $213.00. So it's 66 cents per kick. My bad.
The sub oscillator alone let's you design all possible 808/909 kicks and more.
Plus 3 sample layers to add some spice to the sub.
Option to import your own samples.
Cowbells!
- KVRAF
- 2249 posts since 2 Feb, 2009 from Germany
BazzIsm + 3 audio tracks in your daw... 30€dalor wrote:osiris wrote:The sub oscillator alone let's you design all possible 808/909 kicks and more.
Plus 3 sample layers to add some spice to the sub.
Option to import your own samples.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/3359
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- KVRAF
- 6168 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
ok, nowCyforce wrote:BazzIsm + 3 audio tracks in your daw... 30€dalor wrote:The sub oscillator alone let's you design all possible 808/909 kicks and more.
Plus 3 sample layers to add some spice to the sub.
Option to import your own samples.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/3359
- save presets including the audiofiles
- add filter and pitch env's to the samples
- play all that via keyboard, polyphonic, with pitch tracking
- while still being able to edit all components individually
just sayin'...
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- KVRAF
- 2249 posts since 2 Feb, 2009 from Germany
Hmmmmm ok you are rightbrok landers wrote:ok, nowCyforce wrote:BazzIsm + 3 audio tracks in your daw... 30€dalor wrote:The sub oscillator alone let's you design all possible 808/909 kicks and more.
Plus 3 sample layers to add some spice to the sub.
Option to import your own samples.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/3359
- save presets including the audiofiles
- add filter and pitch env's to the samples
- play all that via keyboard, polyphonic, with pitch tracking
- while still being able to edit all components individually
just sayin'...
But for these, who didn't need a filter, pitch-env, so for just layering drum samples with a sine osc and several audio tracks it would be the more economic way