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Alfalfa · Post by **Alfalfa** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:29 pm

Uncle E wrote:Personally, I think the the Padshop demos sound better than Absynth.

I doubt I would have purchased Komplete (because the stuff I already had was good enough) if I had started with Cubase 6.5. Both of the new synths provide a lot of playable patches. Halion Sonic SE does too. I wonder what I will install next time I switch computers.

The synths stand up to the included stuff in Logic, which was, I think, the goal.

awol9000 · Post by **awol9000** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:12 am

shit, for fifty bones you can't go wrong.

Roger-S. · Post by **Roger-S.** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:21 am

Aerio wrote:
When your dongle gets lost or broken, you will lose all your product licenses.

Wrong. When you registered your Steinberg software on the Steinberg page, you'll only have to buy an enpty dongle (20 USD) and contact your local Steinberg distributor. They'll wil recover your Steinberg licences.
I am talking off personal experience.

Roger

Roger-S. · Post by **Roger-S.** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:31 am

dreadnought wrote: You use something called Ableton Live? Sorry, never heard of it.

Although I'd like to see Pad Shop as VST 2 as well, but...Why should Steinberg care about supporting Ableton Live, if Ableton themself programs Ableton instruments, which are incompatible with any other host than Ableton?

Roger

(Because Ableton wants to establish thir own plugin format.)

Roger-S. · Post by **Roger-S.** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:40 am

Uncle E wrote: Why are people criticizing Steinberg for making this VST3-only rather than criticizing their hosts for not supporting VST3?

Exactly!

Roger

Roger-S. · Post by **Roger-S.** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:42 am

Uncle E wrote:FWIW, the e-licencer is a great system, I can't understand why anyone would be unhappy with it.

Because they onlñy have two or three USB ports on their crappy Macs...!!!

Roger

inboxzero · Post by **inboxzero** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:40 am

I was looking forward to padshop from when it was first announced. I missed atmosphere when I went 64bit, and couldn't afford Omnisphere, so this slots in nicely at an affordable price.

Happy with it so far!

Old Crab · Post by **Old Crab** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:42 pm

inboxzero wrote:I was looking forward to padshop from when it was first announced. I missed atmosphere when I went 64bit, and couldn't afford Omnisphere, so this slots in nicely at an affordable price.

Happy with it so far!

You can still run Atmosphere as 32-bit if your host will allow it. I did until I got Omni.

Uncle E wrote:Why are people criticizing Steinberg for making this VST3-only rather than criticizing their hosts for not supporting VST3?

True enough.

Cheers,
OC

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:49 pm

Roger-S. wrote:
Uncle E wrote:FWIW, the e-licencer is a great system, I can't understand why anyone would be unhappy with it.
Because they onlñy have two or three USB ports on their crappy Macs...!!!

Roger

Can you still stick it on your dongle if you have one?

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:52 pm

Padshop as VST2 make no sense at all. Padshop supports Note Expression and this is a VST3 thing. VST3 is the preferred format from Steinberg with some improvements over VST2. Yes, if Steinberg makes some good VST3 plug-ins where also non-Cubase users have interest, it could help to force other hosts to support VST3

Maybe it's part of the idea.

Igro · Post by **Igro** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:52 pm

Will be a demo version anytime soon?

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:12 pm

4damind wrote:Padshop as VST2 make no sense at all. Padshop supports Note Expression and this is a VST3 thing. VST3 is the preferred format from Steinberg with some improvements over VST2. Yes, if Steinberg makes some good VST3 plug-ins where also non-Cubase users have interest, it could help to force other hosts to support VST3 Maybe it's part of the idea.

It's just a pity that even the couple of other hosts that do load VST3 plugins do not so far support the whole spec, including note expression.

Xenos · Post by **Xenos** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:20 pm

At only $50 I'm seriously thinking of picking this one up...shameful that custom WAV import isn't included, though

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PAK · Post by **PAK** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 4:21 pm

Uncle E wrote:It sounds to me like you've hit the nail on the head. It'd be cool if the development of Padshop provides some enhanced functionality to Halion in a future update, as well.

Well, it's more like HALion providing enhanced functionality to Padshop

As with Retrologue, which should be regarded as a (pretty hugely) feature cut version of the HALion 4 VA, Padshop also appears to draw heavily from the HALion engine, which is why it's inherited some nice things like the ability to continue sustaining an old sound even after the new one has loaded.

If they add the Granular stuff to HALion it'll mean it's capable of doing more than Padshop even before you get to the bit about importing your own samples and layering all the other synthesis possibilities on top. It seems, just as with MOTU, Steinberg will maybe figure that if you can't beat NI's sampler then at least try to out-synth it

Be nice to get Yamaha to draw on some of its FM heritage for that purpose too.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:18 pm

Uncle E wrote: Why are people criticizing Steinberg for making this VST3-only rather than criticizing their hosts for not supporting VST3?

Cause the majority of the plugin developers don't care about releasing VST3 versions of their plugins, maybe?

Steinberg Padshop