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bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:23 pm

simonden wrote:
bronxsound wrote:maybe an idiotic idea but if Albino will not be supported and it won't be continued in any other way (ie Albino 4) maybe it would be possible to set it as a free thing.
i have my license so it's not a wishful thinking from my end but considering that it is a "classic"...
anyway just a thought...
That is a fantastic way of p1&*ing off your customers that have just paid €150 for it!

i know better ways of doing that by eg ending updating cycle at version x.2 and making version y.0 as a payable update

anyway i wouldn't mind if it would happen even i've spent money on A3

Rob Papen · Post by **Rob Papen** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:42 pm

Albino3 will continue to work, also if sales stopped and the end of this year.
Linplug will provide two years service, to keep it running. That is what they told me.

There are gross-grades to Predator and also to Linplug his new flagship once released.

At the end of 2014 we see how things are going.
If there is still demand for Albino3 we can see how it all goes

Rob

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:43 pm

Albino 4 ?

Mushy Mushy · Post by **Mushy Mushy** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:44 pm

LeVzi wrote:Albino 4 ?

4lbino

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 pm

So there's still hope that it's not the end...

LeVzi · Post by **LeVzi** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 pm

Mushy Mushy wrote:
LeVzi wrote:Albino 4 ?
4lbino

Yeah ! lol that's even better

osiris · Post by **osiris** » Wed May 09, 2012 12:50 pm

Let's not make this another one of those 'tear down the developer' threads..............
pleeze!

Ingonator · Post by **Ingonator** » Wed May 09, 2012 1:06 pm

LeVzi wrote:Albino 4 ?

Oh yes, i would really like to see that.

Let's see what the upcoming LinPlug synth will offer.

Ingo

loachm · Post by **loachm** » Wed May 09, 2012 1:51 pm

...of course Rob's contributions to Albino have been more than just presets. However, to me it is questionable how it's possible to claim ownership of ideas that are also available in a number of synths (e.g. chord memory and layering options). The filter design, of course is something different. But, when it comes to code, unless one hasn't made real technical contributions that ended up as actual parts of the respective construct, rather than formulating ideas and making constructive criticism, I think it's pretty hard to claim a share of ownership of the actual code. And that's what is the subject here. Regarding the intellectual property (i.e. the ideas) it probably all comes down to the question how to compensate one party financially for things that the other party wants to continue. However, since we don't know exactly how the collaboration between Peter and Rob has been, we can't judge what would be the rightful decision on this matter. We can only speculate (and that's what I just did, so I don't want this be taken as a statement as if would know how both of them had worked together). And, since this is KVR, speculating about things has never been helpful and it would be a shame if two of the most respected people here had to deal with a probable dispute in public.

One last remark, though. Since both RPCX and Linplug announced crossgrade offers for Albino owners makes them direct competitors. And, of course, by announcing the new synth would read Albino patches Linplug might have an advantage in this competition, since Albino users might more be attracted to the new Linplug synth, as they could use their old presets. This automatically would be a disadvantage for the new RP synth. So I don't think it's about the old stuff here, but rather about the prospects for these upcoming synths.

A solution that would be fair could be offering an import function for both synths and let the best one win then, but we all know how realistic this would be...

Integratron · Post by **Integratron** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:30 pm

So Rob - does that mean that you're going to have a yard sale on A3?... either through AudioMidi or your site?

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:31 pm

I wish I could sell my Albino, I never use it. But I bought it from someone else so pretty sure it's NFR.

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed May 09, 2012 4:37 pm

^why is that? A3 was resellable as far as i remember

Rob Papen · Post by **Rob Papen** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:03 pm

Integratron wrote:So Rob - does that mean that you're going to have a yard sale on A3?... either through AudioMidi or your site?

No, why should we do this?

It remains working until Linplug stops supporting it, to keep it working on new OS.
He told me that he will support it for 2 years after we stop selling it.

I advice people to purchase Predator instead. It has the sound I seek (phat and punchy) and it has 27 filter types...loads of high quality fx and loads of contemporary presets (over 3000)... the quick browser, preset manager.

Albino has a sound of its own of course. But that can be found in the new Linplug synth or his current products.

So for both, enough switching options.

Rob

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Wed May 09, 2012 5:59 pm

bronxsound wrote:^why is that? A3 was resellable as far as i remember

I'm pretty sure once you sell Albino once secondhand it becomes NFR. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

rope · Post by **rope** » Wed May 09, 2012 7:44 pm

If a synth is capable of opening albino 3 presets but also does new tricks, doesnt that mean that it IS albino 4 regardless of what you call it?

The end of Albino