KVR Audio

audio/fault · Post by **audio/fault** » Fri May 10, 2013 12:45 pm

i installed the lite/beat-version some weeks ago (don't know the exact date). it immediately crashed live. deleted it.
is there an update in the meantime?

filter303 · Post by **filter303** » Fri May 10, 2013 1:19 pm

I like the sound and GUI design of this thing but I still feel the same way as others do about the price and simplicity of the synth itself. If it had some modulators with a proper mod matrix and a lower price tag I could actually consider buying it. That is if it used a different copy protection scheme.

There is no way I will ever buy a product in this price range from an "unknown" developer who chooses to use online activation. Who can guarantee that their servers are up and running in a few years? Online activation is pretty much the same as money down the drain for me. It's very clear that this product is not for me. That said I feel very fortunate as a customer that there is so many options to choose from these days.
There is literally hundreds of instruments listed in the KVRdb, of which many don't use online activation, have more sound shaping options and cost less money.

idfpower · Post by **idfpower** » Fri May 10, 2013 3:33 pm

It sounds very thin and lifeless. And their business plan seems odd to say the least

Paying almost 500 Euros just to add your name to the screen or around 1k for a custom GUI? Lol

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:47 pm

This is definitely too expensive for what it is. For that amount of cash I'd definitely want some more parameters (poly/mono mode, effects, some more macro-type controls that would influence the sound in different ways) and definitely a way to do my own models.

Until that happens, it's a no go. This should be below 100€ as it is now.

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:05 pm

Sounds sort of like additive synthesis run through MP3 compression to me.

It's cool you can morph but is that their main selling point?

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:15 pm

if you get the giggles you probably installed einklang..

Sendy · Post by **Sendy** » Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:54 am

I really dislike black-box style sound creation systems. I *want* to do the work, the puzzles involved in thinking like an engineer are as addictive as Tetris.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:09 am

That's all good, Sendy. But not all people are tweakers like you and me and others.

EisenbergAudio · Post by **EisenbergAudio** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:34 am

Dear group,
Thank you so far for your feedback. We are glad that some people enjoy EINKLANG. Hopefully the others will enjoy one of our upcoming updates. We know, that there still lies much work ahead. But we take it step by step as we are constantly working on new features and improvements.
For example, we recently added support for RTAS and AAX, as you might have seen.
Best
Jenifer Eisenberg

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:10 am

V0RT3X wrote:Sounds sort of like additive synthesis run through MP3 compression to me.

The strong point in my opinion though, ...and that can't be properly reproduce by any additive synthesis AFAIK, is this ability to create these quite convincing percussion models

V0RT3X wrote:It's cool you can morph but is that their main selling point?

I agree though, for what i could get it still expensive for me, and after all a bit frustrating on a pure sound design point of view

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:56 pm

Einklang! I was skeptical at first. There aren't many obvious parameters on this thing, but it didn't take me long to realize the power that is hidden inside the turn of a few controls. While using Einklang I feel like mad musician, painting sonically. I can see why eMusicians who like to fiddle would be turned off at first, but soon after users may discover a unique, simple, powerful way to get a sound and complete a sweet track.

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:29 pm

I am enjoying the morph feature.

Krakatau · Post by **Krakatau** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:56 pm

tommyzai wrote:Einklang! I was skeptical at first. There aren't many obvious parameters on this thing, but it didn't take me long to realize the power that is hidden inside the turn of a few controls. While using Einklang I feel like mad musician, painting sonically. I can see why eMusicians who like to fiddle would be turned off at first, but soon after users may discover a unique, simple, powerful way to get a sound and complete a sweet track.

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Numanoid · Post by **Numanoid** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:47 pm

Has there been a BIG price drop on Einklang?

It used to be €199, but I see it priced at €39 in the shop now, can that be correct?: http://www.eisenberg-audio.de/shop

cron · Post by **cron** » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:57 pm

Numanoid wrote:Has there been a BIG price drop on Einklang?

It used to be €199, but I see it priced at €39 in the shop now, can that be correct?: http://www.eisenberg-audio.de/shop

Whoa...

Looks like the pricing model has changed from where I'm sitting. Seems the base synth is sold very cheaply and add-on models are now being sold separately. It's still a huge price drop whichever way you look at it mind. I think the 150 tone basic model was still over 100 euros (IIRC) with the 'full' version being the only other option.

I don't really understand why some tone colour packs are wildly more expensive than others, nor how you're supposed to decide which are suitable for your needs. Doesn't look like they can be demoed, and sound clips can't really get across the range of interactions possible (although there aren't any anyway).

Eisenberg Einklang