Diversion for MacOS released

[schnapsglas]

Can we please have master morph X and Y as possible modulation destinations in the mod matrix?

That's a hard thing, but very interesting, I'll try to do that for version 2.0.

Yes, this would be great, because Diversion lacks macro controls and while making my soundbank, I want to cater to those who want to use expression pedal or aftertouch. But it is not easy to route this without using too many modulations -- CC1 is already by factory default mapped to morph x, and I think the programming would be easier if this could be streamlined using the x-y master morph... especially since this would give a good visual feedback as well.

[ThomasHelzle]

But can't you just midi-learn this to whatever controller you want?
I prefer it that way, since I can adapt it to my needs.
My LMK3 doesn't have Expression, so I usually use Breath instead...
Some like Aftertouch, some prefer the Mod Wheel?

Or did I misunderstand the whole request?

I personally think it's a good idea to have Master X & Y as the main controls for patches and then let the user decide what he likes to drive them with?

If this is patch-based, it can become very annoying to change it by hand...

Cheers,

Tom

[Crackbaby]

I think the idea is to modulate the x/y with the MSEG's etc. Maybe a simple solution would be to give the x/y it's own mseg, lfo and envelope. Would look messy though. Perhaps..

[schnapsglas]

But can't you just midi-learn this to whatever controller you want?
I prefer it that way, since I can adapt it to my needs.
My LMK3 doesn't have Expression, so I usually use Breath instead...
Some like Aftertouch, some prefer the Mod Wheel?

Or did I misunderstand the whole request?

I personally think it's a good idea to have Master X & Y as the main controls for patches and then let the user decide what he likes to drive them with?

If this is patch-based, it can become very annoying to change it by hand...

Cheers,

Tom

Yes, but for example, if I have an x-y pad along with aftertouch and expression pedal, with the ubiquitous mod wheel, we have 5 parameters already. The problem is, some people rather use aftertouch than experession let's say, then having as a single item on the mod matrix allows the user to switch quickly, should there be conflict or #@%!$^$!!&!%$&$! ...................

OK, I'm clearly not doing the best explanation here , but the point of mater morph is to control many parameters at once, and I think if other controls can modulate the master morph in the more subtle ways, we can get more control. There was this case this morning when I was designing a patch, I thought "wouldn't it be great if I could map THAT to master Y?" but of course, I couldn't do it.

Sorry, I'm tired, and I have no idea what I'm saying anymore

[ThomasHelzle]

Yeah, I think I understand what you mean, but this leads to patches where the user has to go into the matrix for each and every one to adapt them to their setup.

But I understand that there isn't a real "golden" solution that will fit all.

I'm just not sure if modulating the master X and Y is really the best way to achieve what you want?

Would some additional global "Macro" modifiers do that maybe, and hopefully being easier to implement as well?

Just some thoughts though, I don't know what the best solution would be.

Cheers,

Tom

[schnapsglas]

Yeah, I think I understand what you mean, but this leads to patches where the user has to go into the matrix for each and every one to adapt them to their setup.

But I understand that there isn't a real "golden" solution that will fit all.

I'm just not sure if modulating the master X and Y is really the best way to achieve what you want?

Would some additional global "Macro" modifiers do that maybe, and hopefully being easier to implement as well?

Just some thoughts though, I don't know what the best solution would be.

Cheers,

Tom

What I am trying to do with my patches is to leave all the macro stuff in mod sections 3 and 4, and leave user-tweakable, easy stuff on the first screen. I am trying to come up with a good solution myself, but I see five main parameters people usually have control to: an x-y pad, modulation wheel, aftertouch and expression pedal. They can all fit in the first page, and with some common sense (from me) tweaking shouldn't be necessary unless the user is to tweak the preset anyway,.

[Sampleconstruct]

What can be confusing with Diversion is:
Let's say you have assigned something to the Modwheel, so at first one would assume that when moving the x-axis of the MASTERMORPH this assignment would become audible, but it doesn't although the Modwheel is assigned to the x-axis by default - but they're 2 independent controllers, not the same.
That's why half way through programming my Bank I changed all Modwheel assignments to the x-axis instead of the MM pad.

[johnnybe]

I have both mac and pc versions installed. If I create an ableton project using Diversion on the PC and move it to the Mac, Diversion loses the changes I made and just starts from the init preset.

Anyone know of a fix for this? Its going to be a real pain to have to save every single preset in Diversion before moving it to the Mac.

[sches]

Hey johnnybe,

Bad bug, I'll check it tomorrow, try to fix and make an update. Thanks for report.

[flyinger]

Warm greetings to you all!

Here my little equalizer table:
Var. 1

Code: Select all

  
  LF                   LF-LMF               LMF-MHF
  Boost                Cut                  Boost
  Frequenz             Frequenz             Frequenz
    10   2,72            30   8,53           220  21,85
    15   5,29            42  10,44           320  24,94
    18   6,10            60  13,53           460  28,18
    26   7,79            95  16,03           720  32,88
    40  10,37           140  18,60         1k3    40,09
    54  12,94           180  20,37         1k8    44,72
    80  14,93           270  23,46         2k3    48,54
   120  17,57           400  26,84         2k8    51,85
   180  20,37           600  30,88         3k3    54,79
   240  22,57           900  35,44         4k     58,40
   380  26,40         1k2    39,04         4k5    60,75
   550  30,00         1k9    45,51         4k8    62,13
 
  MF-MHF              MHF-HF             HF 
  Cut                 Boost              Boost
  Frequenz            Frequenz           Frequenz
  1k    36,71          580  30,50         5k   62,94
  1k2   39,06          780  33,74         6k   66,84
  1k6   43,03          1k2  39,03         7k   70,44
  1k9   45,53          1k8  44,76         8k6  75,44
  2k4   49,21          2k5  49,91         10k  79,26
  2k9   52,44          3k9  57,93         12k  84,26
  3k5   55,90          5k2  63,81         13k  86,69
  4k3   59,87          7k8  73,00         15k  90,81
  5k    62,96         11k   81,90         16k  92,79
  6k    66,85         14k   88,74         17k  94,78
  7k5   72,07         18k   96,53         18k  96,54
  8k6   75,46         19k5  99,03         20k 100,00

Var. 2

Low: 35/ 9,49 48/11,76 60/13,53 70/14,19 80/14,93
100/16,47 120/17,57 160/19,56 190/20,74 220/21,84
270/23,46

Low mid: 180/20,31 230/22,22 280/23,76 330/25,16 400/26,85
430/27,59 490/28,84 550/30,01 590/30,75 650/31,71
750/33,32

Mid: 500/29,10 570/30,35 700/32,49 800/34,03 900/35,43
1K /36,75 1K1/37,93 1K3/40,06 1K5/42,04 1K8/44,76
2K1/47,12

High mid: 950/36,09 1K2/39,03 1K4/41,09 1K7/43,88 2K /46,31
2K5/49,91 3K /53,07 3K5/55,87 4K2/59,40 5K /62,93
6K3/68,00

High: 4K5/60,74 5K6/65,37 6K5/68,75 7K8/73,01 9K1/76,91
12K/84,26 14K/88,75 16K/92,79 18K/96,54 20K/100,00



eq-chart:
http://www.offbeat.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... -chart.pdf


Bye!

[Crackbaby]

What?!

Ok, i just woke up and i've had no coffee at all yet .. but ....... what?!

[flyinger]

Best regards Crackbaby,

Attention!
I will send nasty frequencies to sweden.

The tesla frequency terrorist

[johnnybe]

Hey johnnybe,

Bad bug, I'll check it tomorrow, try to fix and make an update. Thanks for report.

Hi Dmitry,

Just wondering whether you have any idea when the new version might come through?

Cheers

J

[JoeCat]

Why can't we have a synth with a gui that DOESN'T suck, is not another analog emulation, sounds great, and doesn't eat CPU?

Oh - we can!
(ok - not the CPU part. but that's what freeze is for!)

Bring on version 2!

[sches]

Hey guys,

New version is in progress. It will be released in September. It is not a 2.0, though it has several impressive additions. I have fixed a range of bugs as well. I'll check if I can import bugfixes to the current version, and if so I'll release minor update with only bugfixes soon.