Alternatives to Absynth?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 227 posts since 26 Aug, 2010
I tried the Absynth demo. There are many so great sounding presets, I don't know whether Alchemy or Synthmaster can do all this stuff?
My favorite presets are presets like "Big Snorer", "Chime Pad 1" - "Chime Pad 4" , Creaker, Frozen Ocean, Ice Bell, Lonely Ocean, Magnetic Ambi, Panning in April, Perfect Harmony, Quark Reflections, Snowflake, Sudden Thaw, Absolute, ...
I really love them (for ambient/dreampop/shoegaze/psychedelic stuff), but the problem is: There are many presets like Magnetic Ambi which make clicks sometimes. It's a known issue, often caused by the effect "Pipe" and Native Instruments doesn't make an update.
So are there alternatives?
I tried the Synthmaster demo and I also have a few Alchemy Player libraries(Planet Earth, Light Space,..) but they don't seem to get the Absynth sound?
My favorite presets are presets like "Big Snorer", "Chime Pad 1" - "Chime Pad 4" , Creaker, Frozen Ocean, Ice Bell, Lonely Ocean, Magnetic Ambi, Panning in April, Perfect Harmony, Quark Reflections, Snowflake, Sudden Thaw, Absolute, ...
I really love them (for ambient/dreampop/shoegaze/psychedelic stuff), but the problem is: There are many presets like Magnetic Ambi which make clicks sometimes. It's a known issue, often caused by the effect "Pipe" and Native Instruments doesn't make an update.
So are there alternatives?
I tried the Synthmaster demo and I also have a few Alchemy Player libraries(Planet Earth, Light Space,..) but they don't seem to get the Absynth sound?
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- KVRist
- 49 posts since 18 Jun, 2013
I've always thought Crystal was Absynth-ish....
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/crystal_by_green_oak
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/crystal_by_green_oak
- KVRAF
- 23101 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
To me, Absynth has its own world of sound that is not possible to approximate with any other plugin... So I'd just continue using Absynth.
- KVRist
- 150 posts since 3 Nov, 2008 from Ozarks
Alchemy is the most Absynth like synth that Ive heard. Very very similar. I to this day have not found another electric piano preset that is as beautiful as Absynth's "number 59" preset.
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Same here. Besides some others I got lots of the Tim Conrardy sounds for it (RIP Tim...) and those are just awesome.EvilDragon wrote:To me, Absynth has its own world of sound that is not possible to approximate with any other plugin... So I'd just continue using Absynth.
This one for example:
http://www.camelaudio.com/StarscapeAbsynthSounds.php
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- KVRAF
- 4218 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Like it or not, Absynth is one of a kind synth. It is a too complex beast to be able to have an Absynth doppelgänger. You might be able to achieve at some point similar sounds & pads with Alchemy for example, but Absynth is truly unique that's for sure.
- KVRAF
- 3321 posts since 2 Jul, 2007
I have to concur with most of the folks here. Absynth is a one of a kind and makes very good Absynth-y type sounds - airy, spacious, richly textured. But those textures don't always sit well in every mix. At their best they can be... indefinite.
I have yet to encounter those clicks you mention. I have heard some funky stuff happening when I abuse the Resonators and Aetherizer, but those can be quickly programmed out.
Synthmaster is a very synth-y synth, a relatively straightforward analog-type synth with a number of different synthesis engines and incredibly rich modulation routings. It's VERY definite. I'm just learning it.
Two different tools.
Do you own Reaktor? There are a number of different ensembles available which would work great in the type of music you're making - Grainstates, Subharmonic, SpaceDrone. The user library is filled with ensembles you might like. And of course, should you choose, you can build your own.
I have yet to encounter those clicks you mention. I have heard some funky stuff happening when I abuse the Resonators and Aetherizer, but those can be quickly programmed out.
Synthmaster is a very synth-y synth, a relatively straightforward analog-type synth with a number of different synthesis engines and incredibly rich modulation routings. It's VERY definite. I'm just learning it.
Two different tools.
Do you own Reaktor? There are a number of different ensembles available which would work great in the type of music you're making - Grainstates, Subharmonic, SpaceDrone. The user library is filled with ensembles you might like. And of course, should you choose, you can build your own.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 227 posts since 26 Aug, 2010
I have just downloaded the izotope Iris trial and read their beginner tutorial. The sound quality is really nice, but it's too expensive with all the sound libraries and it also seems to have clicks sometimes. And there aren't many effects, just chorus, distortion, delay and reverb and Izotope Iris isn't multimbral (for Sample 1, Sample 2, Sample 3 and the SUB), right? Why haven't they done this? Then you could use your own delay for Sample 1, etc..
- KVRian
- 1324 posts since 6 Mar, 2001 from London, UK
That doesn't sound right to me. It sounds more like voice stealing because the polyphonic voice count is too low for the number of incoming notes. When a new note is needed the synth may click, as it steals a voice from the currently playing set, to cover the incoming note.Melodyshine wrote: It's a known issue, often caused by the effect "Pipe" and Native Instruments doesn't make an update.
A pipe effect could drastically extend the release time for every note, making a voice stealing glitch much more probable. Increase the number of voices if you can.
- KVRAF
- 14940 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
Yes, Absynth is still being updated and stands up to some of the best.pdxindy wrote:If you really love Absynth, use Absynth
- KVRAF
- 14985 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
I'm pro Absynth too, but in that realm I also like...
Iris
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- KVRist
- 216 posts since 18 Feb, 2011 from Hawaii
I love Absynth, and yes, there's nothing like it.Melodyshine wrote:I have just downloaded the izotope Iris trial and read their beginner tutorial. The sound quality is really nice, but it's too expensive with all the sound libraries and it also seems to have clicks sometimes. And there aren't many effects, just chorus, distortion, delay and reverb and Izotope Iris isn't multimbral (for Sample 1, Sample 2, Sample 3 and the SUB), right? Why haven't they done this? Then you could use your own delay for Sample 1, etc..
I bought Iris on sale for $149 and it's probably one of my wisest purchases, even considering it's shortcomings (multitimbral, etc).
Check out Simon Stockhausen's [url]http://www.patchpool.de, he has both Absynth and Iris patches. ... gives me.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 227 posts since 26 Aug, 2010
I have increased the polyphony but it doesn't change anything with the preset magnetic ambi.HanafiH wrote:That doesn't sound right to me. It sounds more like voice stealing because the polyphonic voice count is too low for the number of incoming notes. When a new note is needed the synth may click, as it steals a voice from the currently playing set, to cover the incoming note.Melodyshine wrote: It's a known issue, often caused by the effect "Pipe" and Native Instruments doesn't make an update.
A pipe effect could drastically extend the release time for every note, making a voice stealing glitch much more probable. Increase the number of voices if you can.
It's a known issue: http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... p?t=104599
http://www.native-instruments.com/forum ... p?t=165341
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 227 posts since 26 Aug, 2010
By the way does the full version of Absynth have automation? Because the demo version doesn't have it apparently.