Obxd synthesizer
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11482 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The legato seems to be some kind of "Low Note Priority" mode. Where if you're holding a note and strike another, the second note will only trigger if lower than the note being held.
Would there be any way to add a "Last Note Priority" or "Highest Note Priority" at some point?
Example:
1. I've got voices set to 1, unison on, glide at 2 o'clock
2. I hold down C3
3. While holding down C3, I hit C4
Current Result: I only hear C3. The C4 note never sounds. I'm guessing this is based on the original?
Expected Result: I'd like to hear the C3 glide up to C4.
Would there be any way to add a "Last Note Priority" or "Highest Note Priority" at some point?
Example:
1. I've got voices set to 1, unison on, glide at 2 o'clock
2. I hold down C3
3. While holding down C3, I hit C4
Current Result: I only hear C3. The C4 note never sounds. I'm guessing this is based on the original?
Expected Result: I'd like to hear the C3 glide up to C4.
- KVRAF
- 6304 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
Try the mysterious VAM button.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:Would there be any way to add a "Last Note Priority"
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Yes, I noticed that as well (mentioned it on one of the previous pages), it is illogical, as if one direction were more important than the other. I think it should work either in both directions or in none, depending on the button state.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:The legato seems to be some kind of "Low Note Priority" mode. Where if you're holding a note and strike another, the second note will only trigger if lower than the note being held.
Would there be any way to add a "Last Note Priority" or "Highest Note Priority" at some point?
Example:
1. I've got voices set to 1, unison on, glide at 2 o'clock
2. I hold down C3
3. While holding down C3, I hit C4
Current Result: I only hear C3. The C4 note never sounds. I'm guessing this is based on the original?
Expected Result: I'd like to hear the C3 glide up to C4.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
No, that is not what we are talking about.Frantz wrote:Try the mysterious VAM button.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:Would there be any way to add a "Last Note Priority"
- KVRAF
- 6304 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
I'm confuzzled. It seems like enabling VAM switches from Lowest Note Priority to Last Note Priority and allows C3 to glide up to C4. What are you talking about?fluffy_little_something wrote:No, that is not what we are talking about.
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Frankly, I never really understood that priority thingy, what is being prioritized?Frantz wrote:I'm confuzzled. It seems like enabling VAM switches from Lowest Note Priority to Last Note Priority and allows C3 to glide up to C4. What are you talking about?fluffy_little_something wrote:No, that is not what we are talking about.
Anyway, what we mean to say is that without VAM pressed, the behavior is not symmetrical, i.e. it doesn't work in both directions. With VAM pressed it becomes symmetrical, i.e. it works in both directions.
- KVRAF
- 6304 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
When in Unison mode and two or more notes are held down, the synth needs to determine which note to sound, i.e., which note to give priority to. We can either give priority to the Lowest or Last note. There is no option for Highest on the Obxd.fluffy_little_something wrote:Frankly, I never really understood that priority thingy, what is being prioritized?
- KVRAF
- 3828 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
I also never got the use of a lowest or any other priority note. Who the banana needs it? For what? I always use the last note priority since the beginning of the time and that's 1986. High school. Most honestly, that thing is one of the rare things that puzzled me about the synthesisers since then.
I'm not excluding the possibility that I'm just too dumb or restricted in thinking to understand the other note priority modes, though. People usually invent something because it's useful.
Anyone?
I'm not excluding the possibility that I'm just too dumb or restricted in thinking to understand the other note priority modes, though. People usually invent something because it's useful.
Anyone?
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 9 Oct, 2004 from Poland
I use low note priority for layering sounds.DuX wrote:I also never got the use of a lowest or any other priority note. Who the banana needs it? For what? I always use the last note priority since the beginning of the time and that's 1986. High school. Most honestly, that thing is one of the rare things that puzzled me about the synthesisers since then.
I'm not excluding the possibility that I'm just too dumb or restricted in thinking to understand the other note priority modes, though. People usually invent something because it's useful.
Anyone?
A synth set to mono low priority does 1 bass transposed -12 note and another synth set to poly does all the notes in the chord.
It opens some nice possibilities and frees up 1 hand to do something else.
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- KVRAF
- 3828 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld
Thank you Mutant, I got it now after so much time. The thing is, I never thought of using the keyboard for sound layering. I have a different workflow. I keep to one sound per keyboard/MIDI channel. Then I have some MIDI channels that act like a rhythm machine and have many fixed pitch sounds. Oldschool...
But what I still don't get is - why would that voices priority behaviour be the default? I think the last note priority should be the logical default for every synth.
But what I still don't get is - why would that voices priority behaviour be the default? I think the last note priority should be the logical default for every synth.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. - Jiddu Krishnamurti
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
For those of you who maybe got problems to tune the Osc1 and Osc2 knobs precisely a tuning plugin like this could be helpful (i am using this a long time now):
http://tuneit.free.fr/Site/Home.html
Just reached 12 of my own patches and hopefully will have the double amount tomorrow. Will post what i have until then sometimes at tomorrow.
Around the last 12 months or earlier i more and more started to like synths with a one page design and a limited set of features like this. Of course back in the 80s this features set would have been top notch...
I have just realized that the Multi filter knob only works when the 24dB switch is off.
Ingo
http://tuneit.free.fr/Site/Home.html
Just reached 12 of my own patches and hopefully will have the double amount tomorrow. Will post what i have until then sometimes at tomorrow.
Around the last 12 months or earlier i more and more started to like synths with a one page design and a limited set of features like this. Of course back in the 80s this features set would have been top notch...
I have just realized that the Multi filter knob only works when the 24dB switch is off.
Ingo
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
Um, isn't that what the Step button is for?Ingonator wrote:For those of you who maybe got problems to tune the Osc1 and Osc2 knobs precisely a tuning plugin like this could be helpful (i am using this a long time now):
http://tuneit.free.fr/Site/Home.html
Just reached 12 of my own patches and hopefully will have the double amount tomorrow. Will post what i have until then sometimes at tomorrow.
Ingo
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fluffy_little_something fluffy_little_something https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=281847
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- 12880 posts since 5 Jun, 2012
DuX wrote:Thank you Mutant, I got it now after so much time. The thing is, I never thought of using the keyboard for sound layering. I have a different workflow. I keep to one sound per keyboard/MIDI channel. Then I have some MIDI channels that act like a rhythm machine and have many fixed pitch sounds. Oldschool...
But what I still don't get is - why would that voices priority behaviour be the default? I think the last note priority should be the logical default for every synth.
- KVRAF
- 6304 posts since 18 Jul, 2008 from New York
Perhaps historical precedence? Gordon Reid, as usual, provides a lot of info on the subject:DuX wrote:But what I still don't get is - why would that voices priority behaviour be the default? I think the last note priority should be the logical default for every synth.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct00/a ... nthsec.htm
I agree most of us will want to "tape down" the VAM button on our Obxds.So let's start with the most famous of all -- the Minimoog. This, as you would expect from the world's first integrated synthesizer, is one of the simplest of the bunch and, as stated above, uses lowest-note priority and single triggering. The same is true of the Minimoog's younger and less well-endowed little brother, the Prodigy. ARPs such as the Axxe and Explorer also use a lowest-note priority system, but retrigger when you play a higher note -- even though you still hear the pitch of the lower!
- KVRist
- 38 posts since 7 May, 2004 from Madrid, Spain
I've made a bank with 36 presets. I hope you like it:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/saajnrf4bmiqt ... ank1ok.FXB
https://www.dropbox.com/s/saajnrf4bmiqt ... ank1ok.FXB