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Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 12:12 pm

tapper mike wrote:I'd love to be wrong but nothing beats a Hammond especially the newer ones. With sk2's xk3's and b3mk2's there are 96 tone generating processors. that's right 96 cores one for each tonewheel. They now have ten contacts. The keys being not weighted as they always were are pressure sensitive not velocity sensitive which brings out (yes sorry) an organic vibe that all emulators pale in comparison to.

I'd love to be wrong, too, but if I'm not mistaken this thread is about plug-in Hammond emulations, not hardware.

/Joachim

yessongs · Post by **yessongs** » Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:41 pm

Synthmaster has excellent organs especially with additional presets by Nori for Pink Floyd, ELP and Genesis, and art rock basics by Nori adds even more. These are spot on to the sound I hear on the record and if VB3 is going to do something new I hope they take a cue to copy these presets and improve them.I need a good Jon Lord and Wakeman organ patch as well

kelldammit · Post by **kelldammit** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:16 am

i wish pianoteq would get a hammond add-on. piano, EP, hammond, all in one shot. oh yeah.

Dewdman42 · Post by **Dewdman42** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:26 pm

the company that would blow us all away if they did B3 would be AAS.

Dewdman42 · Post by **Dewdman42** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 7:35 pm

tapper mike wrote:I'd love to be wrong but nothing beats a Hammond especially the newer ones. With sk2's xk3's and b3mk2's there are 96 tone generating processors. that's right 96 cores one for each tonewheel. They now have ten contacts. The keys being not weighted as they always were are pressure sensitive not velocity sensitive which brings out (yes sorry) an organic vibe that all emulators pale in comparison to.

which organs have ten contacts and pressure sensitive? I don't think so....

tapper mike · Post by **tapper mike** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 9:50 am

http://youtu.be/EqQd5fGZAlU?t=3m40s

That would be the B3mk2 from Hammond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQd5fGZAlU

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:30 pm

kelldammit wrote:i wish pianoteq would get a hammond add-on. piano, EP, hammond, all in one shot. oh yeah.

Pianoteq does some superb modelling, but you should take a serious look at the Model C in Halion Sonic 2 and Halion 5.

I would vote for a paid Hammond softsynth from Tale, the guy behind ComboV and ComboF.
http://www.martinic.com/combov/

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/profile.p ... e&u=229644

evilantal · Post by **evilantal** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:19 pm

I'm a bit busy at the moment getting ready to play in my new band. Learning the material, programming sounds. Just 2 rehearsals and then it's playing the new album live for the cd presentation

After the dust has settled a bit I'll do some side-by-side comparisons of VB3 and Steinberg Model C, both through XILS-labs LX122 leslie sim.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:22 pm

evilantal wrote:After the dust has settled a bit I'll do some side-by-side comparisons of VB3 and Steinberg Model C, both through XILS-labs LX122 leslie sim.

Why not through VB3fx, because to my ears it sounds better and more authentic than LX122?

evilantal · Post by **evilantal** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:34 pm

Yes, also a possibility. It was indeed to keep the leslie sim the same between the two plugs. Forgot that VB3 also runs as an effect

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:39 pm

kelldammit wrote:i wish pianoteq would get a hammond add-on. piano, EP, hammond, all in one shot. oh yeah.

I would not be surprised if that happens at some point. It would seem a logical development to make it the keys king

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:40 pm

Dewdman42 wrote:the company that would blow us all away if they did B3 would be AAS.

You can build one in Tassman - it has the modules and several organ models

Spitfire31 · Post by **Spitfire31** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 2:46 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Why not through VB3fx, because to my ears it sounds better and more authentic than LX122?

My view exactly.

Right now I'm playing Guido's VB3 v.2, equipped with worlds's biggest dongle, the Crumar Mojo. Believe me, it's worth waiting for the VST/AU plugin version - whenever it finally arrives.

/Joachim

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:50 pm

evilantal wrote:I'm a bit busy at the moment getting ready to play in my new band. Learning the material, programming sounds. Just 2 rehearsals and then it's playing the new album live for the cd presentation

After the dust has settled a bit I'll do some side-by-side comparisons of VB3 and Steinberg Model C, both through XILS-labs LX122 leslie sim.

Already done and the VB3 is slighly more bass heavy than both the Model C and raw Hammond samples.

evilantal · Post by **evilantal** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:03 pm

electro wrote:
evilantal wrote:I'm a bit busy at the moment getting ready to play in my new band. Learning the material, programming sounds. Just 2 rehearsals and then it's playing the new album live for the cd presentation

After the dust has settled a bit I'll do some side-by-side comparisons of VB3 and Steinberg Model C, both through XILS-labs LX122 leslie sim.

Already done and the VB3 is slighly more bass heavy than both the Model C and raw Hammond samples.

Have you tried adjusting the tonewheel scaling in the global options?

We need a new king of Hammond plugins!