What synths have the best DIGITAL filters ?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
Hello, I am just wondering about what are the best digital filters in the market.
I believe the pursuit of replicating analog in digital is not worth the time effort anymore especially while there are so many groundbreaking digital designs already out there that truly outstanding.
Also analog is becoming very affordable so why bother.
I am a big fan of analog but I think it's best that I kept my analog dreams in hardware.
It's like trying to mimic an accordion or some wierd instrument on an PC. It can be interesting but not the be all and all.
Soo...any ideas on cool digital designs that are not trying to sound like a hardware analog?
So far, my ideas are Virsyn Tera (with spectral filter), NI Razor/Prism and Waldorf Largo, Zebra. IIRC, Synthmaster also had killer filters too.
Not sure if any of them have ZDF or even if ZDF is necessary when not trying to emulate hardware analog?
I believe the pursuit of replicating analog in digital is not worth the time effort anymore especially while there are so many groundbreaking digital designs already out there that truly outstanding.
Also analog is becoming very affordable so why bother.
I am a big fan of analog but I think it's best that I kept my analog dreams in hardware.
It's like trying to mimic an accordion or some wierd instrument on an PC. It can be interesting but not the be all and all.
Soo...any ideas on cool digital designs that are not trying to sound like a hardware analog?
So far, my ideas are Virsyn Tera (with spectral filter), NI Razor/Prism and Waldorf Largo, Zebra. IIRC, Synthmaster also had killer filters too.
Not sure if any of them have ZDF or even if ZDF is necessary when not trying to emulate hardware analog?
Last edited by yul on Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:13 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
I don't watch ZDF anymore...yul wrote:Not sure if any of them have ZDF or even if ZDF is necessary when not trying to emulate hardware analog?
http://www.zdf.de
- KVRAF
- 7339 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
This is like asking who the best singer is, isn't it?
Are you talking only about "traditional" LPF/HPF/etc. filters for subtractive synthesis, or expanding it to comb filters, filters with unusual curves, or more exotic things like the "filters" in NI Razor or Linplug Spectral?
A software emulation of an analog filter is still 100% digital. Is there some subjective quality that makes one filter more "digital" than another, or is it defined by "filters that would be a poor emulation of analog filters?"
Are you talking only about "traditional" LPF/HPF/etc. filters for subtractive synthesis, or expanding it to comb filters, filters with unusual curves, or more exotic things like the "filters" in NI Razor or Linplug Spectral?
A software emulation of an analog filter is still 100% digital. Is there some subjective quality that makes one filter more "digital" than another, or is it defined by "filters that would be a poor emulation of analog filters?"
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1346 posts since 26 Sep, 2002 from Montreal, CANADA
Yes! Any type of filtering/substractive is cool I mean it doesn't need to emulate analog hardware necessarily!
Unusual slopes and unusual sound are what I am looking for!
Razor is probably the most awesome I know at this point all the other above are great too!
Just checking!
Unusual slopes and unusual sound are what I am looking for!
Razor is probably the most awesome I know at this point all the other above are great too!
Just checking!
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- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
The best digital filters for what? I quite like toying with FFT spectral domain filters, which can let you do things like erase the most dominant harmonics as they come and go, etc. This is fundamentally a digital thing because, AFAIK, you could never dream of doing such a thing in the analog domain (or if you could, it would be super expensive and impractical?)
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
- KVRAF
- 5223 posts since 20 Jul, 2010
Check out Tone2's Bifilter and Filterbank plugins. Lots of unusual curves, and the possibility to make your own by combining them and modulating, etc. Most aren't trying to be analog either, except a few, which overdo their "analogness" quite heavily, making them interesting for distortion and FSU stuff.
http://sendy.bandcamp.com/releases < My new album at Bandcamp! Now pay what you like!
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- KVRAF
- 5201 posts since 6 May, 2002
By digital you mean 100% transparent? Maybe this one which has a high number of good customer testimonials
http://dmgaudio.com/products_equilibrium.php
http://dmgaudio.com/products_equilibrium.php
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
You could try Engineers Filter if you want to have super-steep curves like a cliff (and it has different filters):
http://www.rs-met.com/freebies.html
"Best" is a pretty subjective term. One man's trash is another man's treasure...
http://www.rs-met.com/freebies.html
"Best" is a pretty subjective term. One man's trash is another man's treasure...
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- KVRist
- 430 posts since 1 May, 2012
For effects, you've got:
Tone2 Filterbank3
Melda Production MWobbler
Artificial Audio Obelisk
For instruments, there's plenty of options:
Tone2 Electrax
Linplug Spectral
to name a couple.
I agree that there's only so much variation between lowpass filters.
Tone2 Filterbank3
Melda Production MWobbler
Artificial Audio Obelisk
For instruments, there's plenty of options:
Tone2 Electrax
Linplug Spectral
to name a couple.
I agree that there's only so much variation between lowpass filters.
- KVRAF
- 3261 posts since 27 Mar, 2010 from UK
Quality - Cytomics The Drop and Soundtoys Filterfreak
Automation - Vengeance Philta FX
Simplicity - Waves One Knob
Nostalgia - Sonalksis Creative Filter
Outboard - Virus TI
uhe's coming up with inputs I believe, should be killer ?:)
Automation - Vengeance Philta FX
Simplicity - Waves One Knob
Nostalgia - Sonalksis Creative Filter
Outboard - Virus TI
uhe's coming up with inputs I believe, should be killer ?:)
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Poor guy, tomorrow he'll have suggestions for 100 different filter plugins and EQs and still don't know which is the best...
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- KVRAF
- 4321 posts since 26 Jun, 2004
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- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Since when are filters instruments?