I've got to agree I've decided I won't be upgrading but would be interested in just the 64bit Engine and happy to pay $30........bharris22 wrote:You sure do make a lot of sense. I would buy a ST3 player for $30 (or some other nominal amount). I just don't see the need to pay $100 for ever more samples of traditional instruments when I already have Kontakt, MachFive 3, etc., let alone $200 once the intro price is over.basslinemaster wrote:Correction: because they THINK it doesn't make them $...donato wrote:Because it doesn't make them $.bharris22 wrote:I'm sure this has been asked and answered (if so, please do send me the link), but why will there not be an empty 64-bit ST "player" or "shell" that could load SampleMoog, SampleTron and SonikSynth?
Actually it would, but they don't understand (nor seem to care) what their existing customers want, and won't listen. I already explained this earlier on in this thread (I think), and it was ignored by IKM.
If they sold an empty 64 bit ST player, for say $30, I, and probably most other existing ST, Sampletron, SampleMoog, SonikSynth and Miroslav owners would buy it. IKM could then offer us a discount on the new ST3 library, if we wanted to buy it at a later date. They actually think they are going to make more money by NOT doing this, and there is no point in even trying to get them to look at things objectively, because like so many companies, it's a case of "We've made up our minds, and we don't care if our entire company collapses, as long as we don't have to admit we were wrong." Case in point: Microsoft and Windows 8's interface. They have lost hundreds of millions of pounds because they couldn't admit they were wrong. That's the mentality of whoever makes these stupid decisions. They will never admit they were wrong, and thus can never go back on their decision and say "I'm really sorry, I didn't ask my customers what they wanted BEFORE I came up with this idea, but now I know what you actually want to BUY from me, I'll do something crazy and actually let you BUY it!"
It's so simple, a child can work it out: IKM have a large user base of existing ST, SampleMoog, Miroslav, etc. owners. I would imagine most of them (of the ones who still use their IKM software) would buy a 64 bit 'player' if it was a no-brainer price - under $30. Some of them would also buy the ST3 content later on, especially if IKM had the brains (which they don't), to give you some quality free presets every week, in your e-mail, to tempt you, with a money off coupon, etc.etc.etc.
Obviously their current model means that the only people who will buy ST3 are:
1) the ones who want the ST3 content
2) the tiny number of current ST2, etc. owners who want a 64 bit player alone, and not the ST3 content, and are prepared to pay a fortune for a 64 bit player (since they don't want the ST3 content, they are only buying ST3 for the ability to play ST2 sounds with a 64 bit VST).
It doesn't take a calculator to work out that equals much less money than the example I gave above, of a sub $30 ST3 player, as well as the full ST3 program.
It maybe be worth setting up a poll so IK can judge for themselves
