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ThePresent · Post by **ThePresent** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:54 pm

aciddose wrote:The cs- use "state-variable" filters, don't they? So you want 12db with minimal saturation, not a 24db "moog filter" or that sort of thing.

You should never get it with the minimoog, the filter is too steep and the saturation is outrageous on that thing. Even the VCA distorts like hell.

True, the minimoog is the most dense sound compared to the others. Indeed the best results I achieved with the 12 dB filters. But hey, in the mix, such details don't mean a lot to most listeners I guess.

ThePresent · Post by **ThePresent** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:57 pm

aciddose · Post by **aciddose** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:01 pm

Well, the 12db filters will have that rougher timbre as you reduce the cutoff. If you're using a pedal to modulate manually during chords you'll really notice the moog style filter cutting way too much of the buzz from the timbre.

The minor saturation present in the cs- filters actually adds to this sort of noise/fizzy timbre, but only a very tiny bit. Most of it comes simply from the fact the filters are 12db.

ThePresent · Post by **ThePresent** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:24 pm

Agreed, I love em 12 dB filters

It gave me the final touch I needed while programming

murnau · Post by **murnau** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:31 pm

Ingonator wrote:
ThePresent wrote:Go and make one yourself, great fun!
http://youtu.be/Fne0oIEv-WI

There is another one using a Juno-60:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmBCduZB7sg

that's cool! actually you can use the tal-u-no-lx as well!

fluffy_little_something · Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:37 pm

Gee, someone give that guy a microphone...

quantum7 · Post by **quantum7** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:13 pm

I just bought a V-Synth XT the other day and ordered a soundset I just saw on YouTube with a great Blade Runner patch. Hopefully I will get it today (starts at 1:02) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIq716_A330

V0RT3X · Post by **V0RT3X** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:29 pm

Diva could probably nail this with the right settings.

Synthsquad would be my runner up like others have said.

fluffy_little_something · Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:32 pm

Seeing how a simple synth such as the Juno can produce such great results, I am inclined to assume that almost any synth can emulate that sound decently.

ThePresent · Post by **ThePresent** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:34 pm

I agree. 2 vco's saw, adsr x2, 12 dB filter, LFO or other vibrato, done!

Blue-eyed Blonde Ape · Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:11 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIl625BzyAw

f)))ing lol at timing, bloated, out of time, way to go through life, haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpObigGkRYw

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:34 pm

AAS: VA-1/VA-2/Player has some very good versions of these.
Their tone being 'rounder' to my ears prefers them over other VSTs for these particular type of patches.

fluffy_little_something · Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:52 pm

So, once you got that sound, then what? When you use it everyone will think of you as a wannabe Vangelis

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:01 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:So, once you got that sound, then what? When you use it everyone will think of you as a wannabe Vangelis

Well, yeah, there is that!
Probably has a lot to do with why I actually don't use them.

brok landers · Post by **brok landers** » Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:02 pm

hi all,

late to the party, however...
itg´s actually really easy to replicate this sound with any va that has 2 saw osc´s, a 12db filter and a possibility to route aftertouch to the cutoff. in the below audio example i did create every sound with hypersonics va module "us1".

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/263 ... %20001.mp3

BlaDe Runner CS80 synth brass patch - anyone create a close copy with a softsynth?