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i am working with samplitude 2014 and i am limited to 2 drum machines:robota and beatbox2.these are fine and most importante easy to use but both have the problem of having internal sequencer so don´t allows to play multiple notes of the selected sound on midi editor (for exemple a snare) or record the manipulation of the sound(midi learn).these are the 2 possible ways for creating snare rolls ,important for my style:house&techno music.
i tried some free like exd-80,ers drums,and others like drumatic4 checked some vídeos like from linplug RMV but these don´t allows to play a snare in the complete keyboard,each diferent sound has is own midi note but i need each diferent sound played in all midi keyboard ,each sound can be heard with a diferent pitch note.allowing to produce snare rolls.i´ve checked some vídeos for other daws(like ableton live) i found it´s easy to map snare along the midi map and keyboard.
can someone recomend a drum machine easy to use maybe with a patern sequencer and that can also map the snares along the midi editor/keyboard?(budget is 90 eur).
i really apreciate your help people :)
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I think Microtonic is what you are looking for if i understand you right.
Here is an excerpt from the user manual:

"Pitched MIDI Mode
Microtonic features a mode called Pitched MIDI Mode which allows you to play
melodies with the drum patches on your keyboard. In this mode, the eight drum
channels are addressed with MIDI channels 1 to 8 and you have the entire keyboard
for each channel. C3 (note number 60) will play the “original pitch” of the drum
patch. If MIDI transmission is enabled, the same channels and notes will be used for
transmission.
MIDI channel 10 still responds like it does in standard mode, which allows you to
control Microtonic fully from your MIDI keyboard (including changing programs,
patterns and muting channels)."

There's a demo version available.
http://soniccharge.com/microtonic

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Take a look at these:
  • Drumaxx ($99/€73)
  • ErsDrums (free):downloadable here on my own Depositfiles area
  • MDrummer Small (free): terrific!
  • Rhythmus (free): an excellent emulation of the famous drum machine of Jean-Michel Jarre in Equinox, listen to it here and here and compare to the original machine here (as you can see it is totally underestimated on KVR)
  • TS-808 (free)
  • VLinn LM1 Drums ($20/€15): brand new, just few weeks ago, that's why it has still very few owners, but I have it and I'm totally lover of this emulation!
  • Waldorf Edition: Attack ($80/€59): absolutely awesome bargain!... it is a bundle of three emulations of their own famous Waldorf instruments and effects for only $80/€59!
They all are excellent. But if you want something free I strongly recommend you to take MDrummer Lite...
and if you can pay €59 purchase the bundle of Waldorf!!! The bundle contains the emulation of their own most famous Waldorf 2.v (its creator Wolfgang Palm went to Waldorf after having created the PPG Wave) and the drum machine Attack (a combination of the best drum machines of the 90's, and by Waldorf it is really a gift!). Here is a review of Attack and of PPG Wave 2.V by SoundOnSound. All that for only €59!
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Assuming I understand what you want to do, have the snare's pitch tracked across the keyboard, Drumatic will allow you to do this with any patch. You drag the note assignment at the bottom of the GUI out with the right mouse button to assign a larger keyboard range, then you can select keytracking for any combination of the osc pitches, noise pitches and filters.

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If you want to get into tricked-out beats (ugh, did I just say that? :hihi: ), sometimes sampling is the best way to go. Create your drum hits in the synth of your choice and sample them. I like to have the keygroup set up so that the first octave contains all of the drum hits, then the next two octaves are the snare with keytracking, with the middle C of that octave being normal pitch. Then I'll do the same type of spread with any other sounds. Playing a melody on the snare always takes me back to the Jungle craze in the mid 90's :)

Try the free Shortcircuit. It's incredible for beat manipulation. It's easy to edit keygroups, each key can have two effects or filters and the modulations you can do are insane. It's repitching sounds great and you can crunch it up with bitcrushers, slew limiters, etc. Sometimes I wonder why so many people reach for audio glitchers and retrigger/pitcher plugins when programming a sampler is so much fun.
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http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/drumaxx/

Numerous videos: here

Requisite IL 10% 'discount' link for new-IL customers, on purchase of $89.00+:

http://affiliate.image-line.com/FCBCGEI483

(prices shown reflect the 10% discount)
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Microtonic as already mentioned, is a good option.
Also not sure if AudioRealism ADM might be a possibility.
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/audiore ... sm/details

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thanks for your replies, :tu:
i´ve checked all sugestions some of them don´t drag range of the slices in the midi keyboards,not possible to design snare rolls :( and others don´t have the sound that i need for house and techno fresh drum loops
maybe better to spend some more bucks and find a diferente product
i ´m checking linplug´s rmv what you think of this one?any better sugestion for a plugin intuitive with inovative sounds or manipulation,that can drag range of the slices in the midi keyboard?
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dumbox wrote:thanks for your replies, :tu:
i´ve checked all sugestions some of them don´t drag range of the slices in the midi keyboards,not possible to design snare rolls :( and others don´t have the sound that i need for house and techno fresh drum loops
maybe better to spend some more bucks and find a diferente product
i ´m checking linplug´s rmv what you think of this one?any better sugestion for a plugin intuitive with inovative sounds or manipulation,that can drag range of the slices in the midi keyboard?
Yes. I didn't mention it because it was not at all in your range of prices.
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And in this case you could also consider Tremor.
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Shabdahbriah wrote:http://www.image-line.com/plugins/Synths/drumaxx/

Numerous videos: here

Requisite IL 10% 'discount' link for new-IL customers, on purchase of $89.00+:

http://affiliate.image-line.com/FCBCGEI483

(prices shown reflect the 10% discount)
It costs 78$ in JRR Shop and only 66.30$ if you use discount coupon. Feel free to PM me for more info, if you want Drumaxx. :tu:
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Sorry for double post...

BTW: ErsDrums are great, too much underrated. I also recommend you Drumatic3 or payware Drumatic4 (just 30€).
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I use Geist, but if I couldn't use Geist, I would use Drumaxx. I can test it, since I use FL Studio, but like I said, Geist is a transformer amongst those little barking dog toys.

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LimboLoves wrote:I use Geist, but if I couldn't use Geist, I would use Drumaxx. I can test it, since I use FL Studio, but like I said, Geist is a transformer amongst those little barking dog toys.
:D

As a new name for drum machines, I like it.

Some drum machines do actually sound like that (think Delptronics LDB).

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Spark 2 without the hardware is currently $129 (but the SparkLE hardware is nice). The promotion ends June 30th, so you'd have some time to try their demo:
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/buy ... otion.html

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